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You seemed to have omitted ‘feathered his nest?’Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:52 pm Saved the club, took us to our highest postion for a generation, fought bravely against West Ham moving in, gave me the most exciting season of my lifetime and came within a whisker of Championship football.
Hearn is a club legend
How on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?EH16 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
Also gave us the chance to watch legends like Peter Shilton and Ray Wilkins play, introduced the red carpet walk ons and even brought back Taxi as our walk on music. Hero.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:52 pm Saved the club, took us to our highest postion for a generation, fought bravely against West Ham moving in, gave me the most exciting season of my lifetime and came within a whisker of Championship football.
Hearn is a club legend
He stole the lease from LBWF . LOFC have never owned it .Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pmHow on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?EH16 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
Yes but difference is the new owners knew they were buying something without many tangible assets, just a name, Hearn cleared away all the development potential and is still there as the main man. Everything will have to go by him as Freeholder. Hearn was good for the club by keeping finances in the black but exhausted all avenues with it after he feathered his nest and moved on.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:50 pm So when it’s Hearn, he’s a b*stard. When it’s the new owners protecting their wealth, it’s all ok?
You seem to be a very angry individual. What I ACTUALLY said was 'AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED BARRY HEARN DID OK', the key here being the first 6 words of my statement. That clearly implies this is my OPINION and, further, that others may have an entirely different view. That's fine by me if they do. I see no need to get into a shouting match about it. Perhaps a similarly mature approach from you would make you a more amenable individual.Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pmHow on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?EH16 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
Yes, it’s definitely me that seems like the very angry individual in this little exchange.EH16 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:50 pmYou seem to be a very angry individual. What I ACTUALLY said was 'AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED BARRY HEARN DID OK', the key here being the first 6 words of my statement. That clearly implies this is my OPINION and, further, that others may have an entirely different view. That's fine by me if they do. I see no need to get into a shouting match about it. Perhaps a similarly mature approach from you would make you a more amenable individual.Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pmHow on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?EH16 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 am My only issue here is to ask what else did people expect? As far as I'm concerned Barry Hearn did OK by Orient (plenty other clubs who'd have been glad to have him instead of the chancers they did get) but if you expected BH to do anything other than put his own financial interests first then you simply weren't paying attention.
He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
The new owners have nothing left to take from us.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:50 pm So when it’s Hearn, he’s a b*stard. When it’s the new owners protecting their wealth, it’s all ok?
Remember too that Hearn’s longtime CEO Matt Porter still retains an important role with in the club. The Hearn legacy lingers on!Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:08 pm The saga of Hearn is a painful reminder of a person acting in a devious latent manner for their own benefit.
We all know the history
They talk about projected building costs exceeding the original budget but I am a qualified quantity surveyor and some years ago on the old board this subject was exhausted - all I say now is it appears the cost planning was not done correctly in a robust way re the steel / the concrete / other construction elements / and the excavated material which from memory was carted away in a non programme manner to save a change in the taxation associated costs.
I was not part of the team for design / cost plans / tendering process - but from what I read on the old forum it seems it was grossly flawed the process and the way Hearn reported it to others was dismal putting it in a polite description,
Glad you realise it. FYI, the bits I put in bold were just for emphasis as you'd obviously missed it first time.Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:07 pmYes, it’s definitely me that seems like the very angry individual in this little exchange.EH16 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:50 pmYou seem to be a very angry individual. What I ACTUALLY said was 'AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED BARRY HEARN DID OK', the key here being the first 6 words of my statement. That clearly implies this is my OPINION and, further, that others may have an entirely different view. That's fine by me if they do. I see no need to get into a shouting match about it. Perhaps a similarly mature approach from you would make you a more amenable individual.Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:30 pm
How on earth did he do ok by us? Have you been paying attention?
He sold us to a madman and stole the ground, even weaselling his way out of the 50% profit share promise by some crafty accounting.
Matt Porter got Russell Slade into the club?redintheface wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:43 amRemember too that Hearn’s longtime CEO Matt Porter still retains an important role with in the club. The Hearn legacy lingers on!Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:08 pm The saga of Hearn is a painful reminder of a person acting in a devious latent manner for their own benefit.
We all know the history
They talk about projected building costs exceeding the original budget but I am a qualified quantity surveyor and some years ago on the old board this subject was exhausted - all I say now is it appears the cost planning was not done correctly in a robust way re the steel / the concrete / other construction elements / and the excavated material which from memory was carted away in a non programme manner to save a change in the taxation associated costs.
I was not part of the team for design / cost plans / tendering process - but from what I read on the old forum it seems it was grossly flawed the process and the way Hearn reported it to others was dismal putting it in a polite description,
Kept Orient afloat for years with his own money, got promotions and almost to the Championship. He may have taken out of the club but these owners are doing the same thing.Gary the Plumber wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:08 pmThe new owners have nothing left to take from us.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:50 pm So when it’s Hearn, he’s a b*stard. When it’s the new owners protecting their wealth, it’s all ok?
Legend?Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:38 am The definition of a Legend in the Oxford Dictionary does not match up to Hearn character and in my mind absolutely should not be classified as a Legend - no way !
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:52 pm Saved the club, took us to our highest postion for a generation, fought bravely against West Ham moving in, gave me the most exciting season of my lifetime and came within a whisker of Championship football.
Hearn is a club legend