Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:59 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:44 pm Well for me the worst thing is the media reporting it almost like a trend and the youth like to follow trends

Brexit isn’t a trend then - the youth despise it.

Always politics for you innit

Get down with the kids you might learn something

Nah, they are too lippy. But yes, the yoof are generally speaking, not keen on leaving.
Fact.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:37 am We have really high knife crime rates though don't we?

In reality I don’t think we probably do have high knife crime rates it seems to be the flavour for the media not just in London but around the UK
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

My mate in the police who works on gangs said the stabbings are far higher, more widespread than what is being reported in the press. He said the press are looking at the tip of the iceberg, if they reported it correctly you'd be shocked.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:29 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:50 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

So it's not down to austerity then?

As you stated on the other thread in your own words it’s scum apparently

Always been scumbags about. Just a lot more of them now.

You didn't respond to the question of whether it is down to austerity though did you?

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:42 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:29 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:50 am

So it's not down to austerity then?

As you stated on the other thread in your own words it’s scum apparently

Always been scumbags about. Just a lot more of them now.

You didn't respond to the question of whether it is down to austerity though did you?

Ask your local MP I’m just someone on the interweb

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:25 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:37 am We have really high knife crime rates though don't we?

In reality I don’t think we probably do have high knife crime rates it seems to be the flavour for the media not just in London but around the UK
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

My mate in the police who works on gangs said the stabbings are far higher, more widespread than what is being reported in the press. He said the press are looking at the tip of the iceberg, if they reported it correctly you'd be shocked.

I would agree with this.

Mere stabbings are no longer reported, even in local news. I know of attacks that have taken place, have seen the crime scene taped off by police and yet nothing appears in the media.

The press only seem to report now when there is a fatality and then they tend to go a bit OTT which is picked up in other counties.

Maybe other countries have similar issue as here but they are more low key in their reporting?
Maybe our media like to highlight the issues in our country whilst other countries play them down?
Maybe we just have more scumbags in this country?

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:03 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:42 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:29 pm

As you stated on the other thread in your own words it’s scum apparently

Always been scumbags about. Just a lot more of them now.

You didn't respond to the question of whether it is down to austerity though did you?

Ask your local MP I’m just someone on the interweb

Don't have to. You answered it earlier when you said that these attacks have always happened in Leyton.

Funny that as Leyton has always had a higher level of scumbags than some other places where these attacks have been less common.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:13 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:03 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:42 pm

Always been scumbags about. Just a lot more of them now.

You didn't respond to the question of whether it is down to austerity though did you?

Ask your local MP I’m just someone on the interweb

Don't have to. You answered it earlier when you said that these attacks have always happened in Leyton.

Funny that as Leyton has always had a higher level of scumbags than some other places where these attacks have been less common.

What you mean Belgravia and Mayfair?

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:10 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:25 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am

In reality I don’t think we probably do have high knife crime rates it seems to be the flavour for the media not just in London but around the UK
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

My mate in the police who works on gangs said the stabbings are far higher, more widespread than what is being reported in the press. He said the press are looking at the tip of the iceberg, if they reported it correctly you'd be shocked.

I would agree with this.

Mere stabbings are no longer reported, even in local news. I know of attacks that have taken place, have seen the crime scene taped off by police and yet nothing appears in the media.

The press only seem to report now when there is a fatality and then they tend to go a bit OTT which is picked up in other counties.

Maybe other countries have similar issue as here but they are more low key in their reporting?
Maybe our media like to highlight the issues in our country whilst other countries play them down?
Maybe we just have more scumbags in this country?

Could you tell me what your version of a mere stabbing is
Asking for a scarecrow

I see one of the victims has posted a selfie with the comment "you should have killed me, say no more"

Obviously all the people involved are nice law abiding citizens.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:10 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:25 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am

In reality I don’t think we probably do have high knife crime rates it seems to be the flavour for the media not just in London but around the UK
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

My mate in the police who works on gangs said the stabbings are far higher, more widespread than what is being reported in the press. He said the press are looking at the tip of the iceberg, if they reported it correctly you'd be shocked.

I would agree with this.

Mere stabbings are no longer reported, even in local news. I know of attacks that have taken place, have seen the crime scene taped off by police and yet nothing appears in the media.

I'm calling absolute bullshit on this one.

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:56 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:10 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:25 pm

My mate in the police who works on gangs said the stabbings are far higher, more widespread than what is being reported in the press. He said the press are looking at the tip of the iceberg, if they reported it correctly you'd be shocked.

I would agree with this.

Mere stabbings are no longer reported, even in local news. I know of attacks that have taken place, have seen the crime scene taped off by police and yet nothing appears in the media.

I'm calling absolute sh*t on this one.

Are you? You're the one talking sh*t here.

It depends on what else is going on in the news. If there's been a particularly shocking murder or The Sun just fancy doing another 'lawless London' story then there will be a flurry of reports. Otherwise quite true that a stabbing not resulting in a life threatening injury will barely make the local online news.

Plenty of times the police aren't even called and someone turns up in a&e under their own steam either saying nothing or claiming an implausible accident. If the person is over 18 the hospital may not report it to the police and even if they do the most likely action by the police is to add an entry to a database.

That sounds plausible, young kids not reporting things. But the idea of reams and reams of crime scene tape blocking off areas and nothing being reported about it is just nonsense. IMO, of course.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:25 pm

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am

Buddy Manucci wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:37 am We have really high knife crime rates though don't we?

In reality I don’t think we probably do have high knife crime rates it seems to be the flavour for the media not just in London but around the UK
I was brought up in Leyton and they was always someone getting stabbed/shot/baseball batted etc nothing new to me

My mate in the police who works on gangs said the stabbings are far higher, more widespread than what is being reported in the press. He said the press are looking at the tip of the iceberg, if they reported it correctly you'd be shocked.

Every time you say about your mate the copper thor i have this in my mind