LODown Podcast with Nigel Travis

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Re: LODown Podcast with Nigel Travis

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The LODown is fast becoming the best of the podcasts, no fannying about skirting around questions they ask what needs to be asked - I thought Adam was excellent in this interview with Travis.
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Re: LODown Podcast with Nigel Travis

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Top of the JES wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:29 pm The LODown is fast becoming the best of the podcasts, no fannying about skirting around questions they ask what needs to be asked - I thought Adam was excellent in this interview with Travis.
Yep, got to say I really enjoyed it too and will listen in again.
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Re: LODown Podcast with Nigel Travis

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Top of the JES wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:29 pm The LODown is fast becoming the best of the podcasts, no fannying about skirting around questions they ask what needs to be asked - I thought Adam was excellent in this interview with Travis.
Totally agree, shame the rest of the podcasts aren’t so direct avoiding asking the questions that we really want answering.
Great show LODown.
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Re: LODown Podcast with Nigel Travis

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Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:11 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:37 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:53 pm

Well, put it this way....do you think it was Ling or Jackett who called up Millwall and asked for Mitchell and Moss (and possibly others) on loan? I imagine the identifying is essentially admin in finding out who is available, how they compare to what we have or need, statistical analysis, scouting reports and anything around expected transfer fees/wages so decisions are not taken in isolation. Basically leaving Jackett to the footballing side and feeding into.and rubber stamping transfer decisions.

Just can't see a case where Jackett doesnt want someone but everyone else does so they purposely go against what Jackett says.
I believe Ling does all that sort of thing so assume it was him who didthe asking. Not sure what relevance that has though?

It’s not about the committee deliberately bringing in players Jackett doesn’t want here, it’s more nuanced than that. There could be people Kenny has said he wants to get in but some bloke with the stats has said they don’t fit what we need. It could be that Kenny has said he needs a forward thinking full back to cover James’ injury, but because the budget has been spunked earlier in the year he’s been given a couple of u23 options, of which Moss was the best. Kenny might not have fancied him, but had no choice given what else was offered to him.

The club talk about transparency and accountability but it falls down with regards to the Transfer Committee
How is wanting players, not being able to afford them in some cases and having to make do with what fits in our budget different from most other clubs at our level? Having board members on the committee would actually be helpful in seeing if additional funds were available if there is a potentially good player we could go for, or in cases if we want to pay a fee for a player like we did with Coleman.

Just listened to the podcast, and to quote Travis verbatim:
"We basically identify what Kenny wants, he proposes to the transfer committee and we sign it off"
"I read all the stuff where people say we sign players for Kenny - that is not true"
The ‘We basically identify what kenny wants’ is unclear.

I would expect Kenny to identify what he wants, no?
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Re: LODown Podcast with Nigel Travis

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Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:16 pm
Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:11 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:37 pm

I believe Ling does all that sort of thing so assume it was him who didthe asking. Not sure what relevance that has though?

It’s not about the committee deliberately bringing in players Jackett doesn’t want here, it’s more nuanced than that. There could be people Kenny has said he wants to get in but some bloke with the stats has said they don’t fit what we need. It could be that Kenny has said he needs a forward thinking full back to cover James’ injury, but because the budget has been spunked earlier in the year he’s been given a couple of u23 options, of which Moss was the best. Kenny might not have fancied him, but had no choice given what else was offered to him.

The club talk about transparency and accountability but it falls down with regards to the Transfer Committee
How is wanting players, not being able to afford them in some cases and having to make do with what fits in our budget different from most other clubs at our level? Having board members on the committee would actually be helpful in seeing if additional funds were available if there is a potentially good player we could go for, or in cases if we want to pay a fee for a player like we did with Coleman.

Just listened to the podcast, and to quote Travis verbatim:
"We basically identify what Kenny wants, he proposes to the transfer committee and we sign it off"
"I read all the stuff where people say we sign players for Kenny - that is not true"
The ‘We basically identify what kenny wants’ is unclear.

I would expect Kenny to identify what he wants, no?
Obviously it must be that Kenny identifies the players he wants, for anyone to identify them would be a total nonsense.
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