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That will send the value of those players through the roof.

Might also spur some of the vaccine rejecters into getting the jabs.

But they won't be fully jabbed and boosted until end of season

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:29 am But they won't be fully jabbed and boosted until end of season

At this stage it'll have to do, irrespective of when the season ends, because of the societal benefits. The same way as we'd still want the unvaccinated general public to get their jabs even though full effect won't be for a few months.

Chelsea not happy as their request to postpone today’s game against Wolves was refused. They can only put 4 outfield players on the bench.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:44 am

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:29 am But they won't be fully jabbed and boosted until end of season

At this stage it'll have to do, irrespective of when the season ends, because of the societal benefits. The same way as we'd still want the unvaccinated general public to get their jabs even though full effect won't be for a few months.

It won’t do in terms of bringing people here in January. Those players are liable to miss games throughout the rest of this season because of the additional isolation requirements on the unvaccinated.

But yea, those players can make themselves more employable for the 2022/23 season by getting onto it now.

Hope things will be better by then

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:43 am Who was actually missing with covid pings? Theo and ?

Theo, Mitchell and Beckles

And Omotoye?

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:01 am

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:56 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am

Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.

As it seems that only 3 jabs has a chance of stopping infection with Omicron, players not jabbed won't be protected until well into the New Year

If they’re not vaccinated at all now, we’re potentially f*cked for the rest of the season.

As harsh as it sounds, it is practical to only consider vaccinated players in January.

Not sure this checks out as even if you follow "THE science" it doesn't change transmission or catching it very much, aye?

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:12 am That will send the value of those players through the roof.

It might well do but they won’t be of much value if we can’t get a game against the less well off opposition! Total fuckup regardless. Rather than dragging on about the issue of COVID passes, the Government should have been emphasising the consequences of not being vaccinated ie. 10 day self isolation! Or perhaps the FA/EFL/Clubs should have been more rigorously on the case. The irony of 50,000 covid pass fans in a stadium and players self isolating because they’re not vaccinated. Shambles!

After Nigel came out fighting in the media in the wake of the Spurs game last year, the club’s hands are tied. He said the club could pull together a team to play that game (for the money), no reason to postpone Saturday

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:57 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:43 am Who was actually missing with covid pings? Theo and ?

Theo, Mitchell and Beckles

Has that been confirmed or is that just guesswork?

I would hope they haven’t been paid for the time they’ve had to take off work.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:37 pm

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:57 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:43 am Who was actually missing with covid pings? Theo and ?

Theo, Mitchell and Beckles

Has that been confirmed or is that just guesswork?

Yes. By the manager

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:25 pm After Nigel came out fighting in the media in the wake of the Spurs game last year, the club’s hands are tied. He said the club could pull together a team to play that game (for the money), no reason to postpone Saturday

Very good point, though I'm not convinced that anyone at the EFL would have been sharp enough to make it

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:31 am

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:20 am
KJ stated that the missing COVID players were not carrying the Virus. From this we can assume that these are unvaccinated players, that are subject to “pingdemic” for the rest of the season

Or they could just stop being thickos and get vaccinated?

I’m surprised the club, via our medical team, have t had this discussion with them.

What’s to say they haven’t had this chat with them? They don’t have to just accept the medical teams decision.

idontkn0 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:10 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:01 am

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:56 am

As it seems that only 3 jabs has a chance of stopping infection with Omicron, players not jabbed won't be protected until well into the New Year

If they’re not vaccinated at all now, we’re potentially f*cked for the rest of the season.

As harsh as it sounds, it is practical to only consider vaccinated players in January.

Not sure this checks out as even if you follow "THE science" it doesn't change transmission or catching it very much, aye?

Good point.

Correct. There is now a rule to do more testing on players. Players with no symptoms weren't previously being tested, now they are due to an increased testing on players. It doesn’t mean they haven’t been vaccinated.

Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:51 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:37 pm

jamespevans wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:57 pm

Theo, Mitchell and Beckles

Has that been confirmed or is that just guesswork?

Yes. By the manager

Thanks.

Really disappointing.

PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:40 pm The bottom line is, the defeat today has probably put an end to our hopes of automatic promotion and even a play off place

Agreed, and anyone who thinks we can still win promotion is deluded

Horient wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:03 pm

idontkn0 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:10 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:01 am

If they’re not vaccinated at all now, we’re potentially f*cked for the rest of the season.

As harsh as it sounds, it is practical to only consider vaccinated players in January.

Not sure this checks out as even if you follow "THE science" it doesn't change transmission or catching it very much, aye?

Good point.

Correct. There is now a rule to do more testing on players. Players with no symptoms weren't previously being tested, now they are due to an increased testing on players. It doesn’t mean they haven’t been vaccinated.

So you’re saying these three have got covid?

I thought it had already been established they haven’t?

I think they have been in contact with someone who has it as Jackett said Covid related, not infected

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:12 pm

Horient wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:03 pm

idontkn0 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:10 pm

Not sure this checks out as even if you follow "THE science" it doesn't change transmission or catching it very much, aye?

Good point.

Correct. There is now a rule to do more testing on players. Players with no symptoms weren't previously being tested, now they are due to an increased testing on players. It doesn’t mean they haven’t been vaccinated.

So you’re saying these three have got covid?

I thought it had already been established they haven’t?

What three? I’ve not made a comment about today’s players who couldn’t play in the game.

Sorry, I assumed you were talking about the players that missed the game yesterday because they haven’t been vaccinated, as that’s who we were discussing.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:10 am

gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:00 pm If it were another club I reckon one or two more mystery injuries would've been found to avoid playing the game

In which case we'd have likely faced action for not fulfilling the fixture. Then because you slate everything the club does you'd be going after them because of that.

Come on SF you're better than that, "everything" is being over dramatic and you know as much. Appointing KJ and Gallen, the work of Danny Macklin, our streaming platform that's 3 off top of my head just for starters that disprove that point.

Can the club do better, absolutely and that's exactly what Nigel Travis has in his challenge culture of constant improvement.