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Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:52 am
by Buddy Manucci
We replaced Bonne on the day he was sold with someone who was also impressive last season in the same division and was loved by the fans of the club he left. Don't see the issue with this one.

Koroma was announced about 15 hours ago on a Friday. Give them a chance to replace before moaning surely?

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:09 am
by BiggsyMalone
They knew Bonne and Koroma were f*cking off this summer, since January at least. They’ve had time to scout potential targets. I hope the money raised from those 2 leaving gets reinvested into the squad.

It’s not going to be a great look for the club if they got a substantial amount for Bonne and Koroma, raised season ticket prices and didn’t invest into the squad beyond free transfers

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:14 am
by CreamofSumYungGai
I’m not fussed if fees are paid or not. You don’t have to pay a fee these days.

Just so long as sufficient funds are put back into the wages to bring in 1) players of good enough quality and 2) enough of them.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:44 am
by Thor
Sounds like the Peterborough striker will be next in the building

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:29 am
by Buddy Manucci
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:09 am They knew Bonne and Koroma were f*** off this summer, since January at least. They’ve had time to scout potential targets. I hope the money raised from those 2 leaving gets reinvested into the squad.

It’s not going to be a great look for the club if they got a substantial amount for Bonne and Koroma, raised season ticket prices and didn’t invest into the squad beyond free transfers
It's almost as if they didn't plan for us losing a manager in unprecedented circumstances.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:40 am
by BiggsyMalone
Buddy Manucci wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:29 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:09 am They knew Bonne and Koroma were f*** off this summer, since January at least. They’ve had time to scout potential targets. I hope the money raised from those 2 leaving gets reinvested into the squad.

It’s not going to be a great look for the club if they got a substantial amount for Bonne and Koroma, raised season ticket prices and didn’t invest into the squad beyond free transfers
It's almost as if they didn't plan for us losing a manager in unprecedented circumstances.
What does that have to do with anything? Ling is in charge of recruitment and he’s appointed JE’s staff to take over the job. You don’t get to the summer and then decide what you need and who you will buy and sell.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:45 am
by Buddy Manucci
Firstly, yes we probably knew Bonne and Koroma would be off, but we wouldn't know which league we were going to be in, so you are potentially doubling the number of targets you need to look at. And you can't speak to them before an offer is accepted by the club they are at, or they are were coming out of contract this summer.

That would have been exactly the aim once we were promoted, barring everyone having deserves breaks. That's exactly why we were able to confirm Wilkinson within hours of Bonne being confirmed, so I'm not sure what you issue with that is. Koroma left on Friday evening.

If you don't think Justin Edinburgh passing away would have potentially slowed down recruitment (and sales) then I'm not sure it's worth talking to you about any subject.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:58 am
by CreamofSumYungGai
We knew which division we would be in 2 months ago.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:22 am
by Buddy Manucci
Yep. But I was replying to the January post.

A new striker was brought in the day Bonne left and Koroma has literally just left. What's to complain about? It would be bad business to replace either before they left if for whatever reason they didn't leave, such as an injury, we would need to re-evaluate our budget.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am
by gshaw
If we had two other strikers in the building you could make that argument but we'd already released Simpson and Alabi (to all intents and purposes) so replacing those should've been well in motion before the tragic loss of JE, unless of course the club doesn't intend to bring in signings for either (bad mistake if so).

It seems the Koroma and Bonne transfers were pretty much done before his passing but just been announced later out of respect.

Before those two left we needed 2 strikers to match our squad strength last season, that's now up to 4 so why hang around to get the first ones in? With being back to 7 subs the squad is far more important in L2 - if we're down to the bare bones in December time Iike last season the opposition will be far better placed to take advantage in a way most couldn't in NL.

The concern isn't so much replacing Bonne and Koroma but rather than being the only business we do in that area of the squad. If so we'll start the season at a higher level with a comparably weaker squad than we had at the end of last season.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:50 pm
by BiggsyMalone
gshaw wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am If we had two other strikers in the building you could make that argument but we'd already released Simpson and Alabi (to all intents and purposes) so replacing those should've been well in motion before the tragic loss of JE, unless of course the club doesn't intend to bring in signings for either (bad mistake if so).

It seems the Koroma and Bonne transfers were pretty much done before his passing but just been announced later out of respect.

Before those two left we needed 2 strikers to match our squad strength last season, that's now up to 4 so why hang around to get the first ones in? With being back to 7 subs the squad is far more important in L2 - if we're down to the bare bones in December time Iike last season the opposition will be far better placed to take advantage in a way most couldn't in NL.

The concern isn't so much replacing Bonne and Koroma but rather than being the only business we do in that area of the squad. If so we'll start the season at a higher level with a comparably weaker squad than we had at the end of last season.
Pretty much this.

Also, it’s Martin Ling’s full time job. If people don’t think he’s had lists of players that Orient could/should sign, for both L2 and NL, then he shouldn’t be doing that job. They knew 2 months ago what league Orient would be in. You’d expect them to have 2 or 3 possibilities for every position and work through the list. I hope and I think they’ve got the 2 ‘easy’ deals done and now they know what transfer budget they’re working with, can aim for the first choice targets and offer them competitive wages.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:59 pm
by Jman
Would hope for at least one 'marquee' signing and a statement of intent from the board. A 20+ goal striker would be brilliant but they are few and far between. Think we missed a trick with McCallum personally. I trust those inside the club to get this right for next season. There's very little to fault how they've gone about the last 2 years.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:00 pm
by Lucky7
Jman wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:59 pm Would hope for at least one 'marquee' signing and a statement of intent from the board. A 20+ goal striker would be brilliant but they are few and far between. Think we missed a trick with McCallum personally. I trust those inside the club to get this right for next season. There's very little to fault how they've gone about the last 2 years.
You want a Marquee signing

I have a 4 man tent for sale saves me putting it on eBay

Make me an offer

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:12 pm
by Off The Hook
Article_50 wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:58 pm Our two best players have been sold within the space of a week...……….

In view if this, can someone please explain to me why I should renew my season ticket ??
Because it cheaper and easier than buying season tickets for Charlton & Huddersfield or having to decide upon one of them?

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:30 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:50 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am If we had two other strikers in the building you could make that argument but we'd already released Simpson and Alabi (to all intents and purposes) so replacing those should've been well in motion before the tragic loss of JE, unless of course the club doesn't intend to bring in signings for either (bad mistake if so).

It seems the Koroma and Bonne transfers were pretty much done before his passing but just been announced later out of respect.

Before those two left we needed 2 strikers to match our squad strength last season, that's now up to 4 so why hang around to get the first ones in? With being back to 7 subs the squad is far more important in L2 - if we're down to the bare bones in December time Iike last season the opposition will be far better placed to take advantage in a way most couldn't in NL.

The concern isn't so much replacing Bonne and Koroma but rather than being the only business we do in that area of the squad. If so we'll start the season at a higher level with a comparably weaker squad than we had at the end of last season.
Pretty much this.

Also, it’s Martin Ling’s full time job. If people don’t think he’s had lists of players that Orient could/should sign, for both L2 and NL, then he shouldn’t be doing that job. They knew 2 months ago what league Orient would be in. You’d expect them to have 2 or 3 possibilities for every position and work through the list. I hope and I think they’ve got the 2 ‘easy’ deals done and now they know what transfer budget they’re working with, can aim for the first choice targets and offer them competitive wages.
Yes, of course he will have. Buuuut transfers take time to complete and WE ARE NOT EVEN AT PRE-SEASON YET. Thickies also don’t seem to understand that we’ll have potential signings training with us, not just those currently under contract. The season is still six weeks away ffs

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:32 pm
by Disoriented
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:30 pm
BiggsyMalone wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:50 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:41 am If we had two other strikers in the building you could make that argument but we'd already released Simpson and Alabi (to all intents and purposes) so replacing those should've been well in motion before the tragic loss of JE, unless of course the club doesn't intend to bring in signings for either (bad mistake if so).

It seems the Koroma and Bonne transfers were pretty much done before his passing but just been announced later out of respect.

Before those two left we needed 2 strikers to match our squad strength last season, that's now up to 4 so why hang around to get the first ones in? With being back to 7 subs the squad is far more important in L2 - if we're down to the bare bones in December time Iike last season the opposition will be far better placed to take advantage in a way most couldn't in NL.

The concern isn't so much replacing Bonne and Koroma but rather than being the only business we do in that area of the squad. If so we'll start the season at a higher level with a comparably weaker squad than we had at the end of last season.
Pretty much this.

Also, it’s Martin Ling’s full time job. If people don’t think he’s had lists of players that Orient could/should sign, for both L2 and NL, then he shouldn’t be doing that job. They knew 2 months ago what league Orient would be in. You’d expect them to have 2 or 3 possibilities for every position and work through the list. I hope and I think they’ve got the 2 ‘easy’ deals done and now they know what transfer budget they’re working with, can aim for the first choice targets and offer them competitive wages.
Yes, of course he will have. Buuuut transfers take time to complete and WE ARE NOT EVEN AT PRE-SEASON YET. Thickies also don’t seem to understand that we’ll have potential signings training with us, not just those currently under contract. The season is still six weeks away ffs
Oh to be as intelligent as you.

😅

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:36 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Thor wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:44 am Sounds like the Peterborough striker will be next in the building
What Peterborough striker.? Please tell me more.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:44 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Being that we are constantly told how important a good preseason is for players I’m looking forward to the squad being pretty much sorted when preseason starts. Strikers was always going to be an issue especially with the probability of Bonne and Koroma going. Ling said he had players identified. Proven by the speed replacing Bonne.

I have no doubt it’s all in hand and announcements will be made next week. One, maybe two strikers and a CM.

Don’t panic.

Though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Alabi given a squad number.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:46 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Article_50 wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:58 pm Our two best players have been sold within the space of a week...……….

In view if this, can someone please explain to me why I should renew my season ticket ??
Because you support the club, it's that simple. Good players have always come and gone at Orient but we managed before and we'll manage again. We're all disappointed to have lost Bonne and Koroma but I'm sure they'll be replaced. Hopefully they 'll be good signings but even if Koroma and Bonne had stayed, nothing is guaranteed in football.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:52 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:44 pm Being that we are constantly told how important a good preseason is for players I’m looking forward to the squad being pretty much sorted when preseason starts. Strikers was always going to be an issue especially with the probability of Bonne and Koroma going. Ling said he had players identified. Proven by the speed replacing Bonne.

I have no doubt it’s all in hand and announcements will be made next week. One, maybe two strikers and a CM.

Don’t panic.

Though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Alabi given a squad number.
Definitely there's work to be done to bring in new players ASAP. Yes, I wouldn't be surprised to see Alabi given a squad number although it's obvious being on the transfer list he has no future at Orient.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:23 pm
by Cheshunto
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:36 pm
Thor wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:44 am Sounds like the Peterborough striker will be next in the building
What Peterborough striker.? Please tell me more.
I think it was mentioned in a post somewhere that we are ‘looking at’ Matt Stevens of Peterborough.
I think he did well on loan at Slough last season.
Apart from that I don’t know much about him.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:34 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:44 pm Being that we are constantly told how important a good preseason is for players I’m looking forward to the squad being pretty much sorted when preseason starts. Strikers was always going to be an issue especially with the probability of Bonne and Koroma going. Ling said he had players identified. Proven by the speed replacing Bonne.

I have no doubt it’s all in hand and announcements will be made next week. One, maybe two strikers and a CM.

Don’t panic.

Though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Alabi given a squad number.
How many squads are ever sorted when pre-season starts?

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:58 pm
by F*ck The Poor & Fat
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:34 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:44 pm Being that we are constantly told how important a good preseason is for players I’m looking forward to the squad being pretty much sorted when preseason starts. Strikers was always going to be an issue especially with the probability of Bonne and Koroma going. Ling said he had players identified. Proven by the speed replacing Bonne.

I have no doubt it’s all in hand and announcements will be made next week. One, maybe two strikers and a CM.

Don’t panic.

Though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Alabi given a squad number.
How many squads are ever sorted when pre-season starts?
Pretty much sorted. Which means not completed but pretty much. Of course we enter the trialing period when further additions are possible. But we will pretty much know the core group.

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:34 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
Cheshunto wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:23 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:36 pm
Thor wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:44 am Sounds like the Peterborough striker will be next in the building
What Peterborough striker.? Please tell me more.
I think it was mentioned in a post somewhere that we are ‘looking at’ Matt Stevens of Peterborough.
I think he did well on loan at Slough last season.
Apart from that I don’t know much about him.
Ok, thanks . Was on loan at Slough ?. That doesn't fill me with much confidence .

Re: TRANSFER

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:11 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:58 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:34 pm
dOh Nut wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:44 pm Being that we are constantly told how important a good preseason is for players I’m looking forward to the squad being pretty much sorted when preseason starts. Strikers was always going to be an issue especially with the probability of Bonne and Koroma going. Ling said he had players identified. Proven by the speed replacing Bonne.

I have no doubt it’s all in hand and announcements will be made next week. One, maybe two strikers and a CM.

Don’t panic.

Though it wouldn’t surprise me to see Alabi given a squad number.
How many squads are ever sorted when pre-season starts?
Pretty much sorted. Which means not completed but pretty much. Of course we enter the trialing period when further additions are possible. But we will pretty much know the core group.
Most squads are not pretty much complete when pre-season begins and many aren’t even complete by the first league game.

We already pretty much know the core group and even if we haven’t made all our signings we’ll have players training with us including those we’re speaking to but haven’t officially signed yet.

Again, there’s still six weeks until the season starts. Can we stop worrying and find something else to do with our time?