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Good film, but please keep the secrets.

Get out there and go watch it, the film is worth it.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:45 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:41 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:31 pm Going to see it at the Radway in Sidmouth on Monday night. Entry is £4.30. Will be having a pint in the Radway pub across the road beforehand. Review to follow but I bet its crap.

Why not pop into the Conservative Club next door instead?

I going to give that a miss.

I'm just hoping I don't bump into the tosser of a biker who wanted to fight me last time I was there just because I cut him off. It was handbags at 30 paces although I was a bit concerned about what he was going to do with his helmet!!

is that the story of your life Maxy?

While watching From Russia With Love the cinema manager came on stage to announce that President Kennedy had been assassinated.
We didn't know if we were going home to the start of World war three.

Do they do a regeneration scene when the bonds change or do they just hope no one notices it’s a different actor, like with the kids in Eastenders?

Saw the film today - bit put off by all the gadgetry, but the end was very effective. The film quality was very dark throughout, which was also off-putting.

Skyfall is Craig’s best outing, lower machine-gun video game spree. The motive of the villain is more credible; the scenes in London work very well. Tells a good story; less formulaic. MI6 is more fallible etc etc

There is a rumour going around that the next Bond could be a woman. Why not , it didn't do Dr WHO any harm ......Ermm.

Barbara Broccoli has already ruled out a women and rightly so. If you want that type of character go and create one made for a women in mind. Bond is a man in the books and should remain one.

I watched the first dr who with the women Doctor and that was enough for me. Not because she's a women but cos she is a poor doctor.

Thor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:58 am Barbara Broccoli has already ruled out a women and rightly so. If you want that type of character go and create one made for a women in mind. Bond is a man in the books and should remain one.

I watched the first dr who with the women Doctor and that was enough for me. Not because she's a women but cos she is a poor doctor.

What would be worse, a black man or a woman?

Idris Elba would be good however, I think his age counts against him as longevity would not be great for a series which only films once every two or three years. The young lad from the posh show I’ve never seen is highly rated.

In answer to your question colour does not come into it from my perspective, but a women should not be bond in my personal opinion.

Just seen it. Decent.

What the f*cking hell was that!?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:09 pm What the f*cking hell was that!?

We lost. Time to move on.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 11:09 pm What the f*cking hell was that!?

It makes sense if you look at the Craig-era Bond as a standalone arc telling the full story timeline of 007. Hence why his films included so many references to previous films and acted as origin stories for other, we'll known characters.

It's not just a continuation of the character like the other Bonds have been. We also now know for certain that 007 didn't get locked up on Alacatraz Island until he was an old man and Nicholas Cage needed help.

Story didn't grab me.

Crap villain with no motive. Rubbish henchman too, was it bogof on glass eyes?

Yeah, the villain was rubbish. There was zero chemistry between Bond and his main bird. And, despite their best intentions, Token Diverse Female Agent was completely upstaged by the excellent Ana de Armas, who was criminally only afforded 15 minutes screen time.

So is it worth seeing?

Would have liked more screen time for Fiennes/Harris/Kinnear....incidentally, was the film very dark where you watched it? Did not know whether the colours were deliberately muted or there was a technical problem in the Cineworld where we were perched. (Some people actually walked out)

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:33 am Yeah, the villain was rubbish. There was zero chemistry between Bond and his main bird. And, despite their best intentions, Token Diverse Female Agent was completely upstaged by the excellent Ana de Armas, who was criminally only afforded 15 minutes screen time.

Liked watching Ana de armas kick people in the face but people need to lose their boners over her as her character of basically an intern/newbie wasnt particularly interesting.

The whole film was a bit of a mess. Must have been halfway through the film before the villain got his second scene.

Theme tune- forgettable, so much so that they had to use an old one for during the film

It is obvious the makers are treating the Craig films as their own little universe, but it just feels wrong to see it brought to an end. Should've left it after Spectre.

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:52 pm Would have liked more screen time for Fiennes/Harris/Kinnear....incidentally, was the film very dark where you watched it? Did not know whether the colours were deliberately muted or there was a technical problem in the Cineworld where we were perched. (Some people actually walked out)

I watched it in IMAX and the colours and brightness were spit on. Maybe a technical problem where you were? The film was certainly not dark although some films are made like that - this one wasn't.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:37 pm

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:52 pm Would have liked more screen time for Fiennes/Harris/Kinnear....incidentally, was the film very dark where you watched it? Did not know whether the colours were deliberately muted or there was a technical problem in the Cineworld where we were perched. (Some people actually walked out)

I watched it in IMAX and the colours and brightness were spit on. Maybe a technical problem where you were? The film was certainly not dark although some films are made like that - this one wasn't.

When do you start filming as the new Bond?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:31 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:33 am Yeah, the villain was rubbish. There was zero chemistry between Bond and his main bird. And, despite their best intentions, Token Diverse Female Agent was completely upstaged by the excellent Ana de Armas, who was criminally only afforded 15 minutes screen time.

Liked watching Ana de armas kick people in the face but people need to lose their boners over her as her character of basically an intern/newbie wasnt particularly interesting.

The whole film was a bit of a mess. Must have been halfway through the film before the villain got his second scene.

Theme tune- forgettable, so much so that they had to use an old one for during the film

It is obvious the makers are treating the Craig films as their own little universe, but it just feels wrong to see it brought to an end. Should've left it after Spectre.

Yeah, although I think you're being a little harsh on Ana de Armas. All the supporting characters were poorly written, but I thought that she absolutely bossed every scene she appeared in, even displaying more charisma than Craig.

The theme tune was awful. I can only imagine that the production staff had a bet that they could actually find something worse than the Sam Smith dirge we had to put up with last time.

Personally, I like the Craig interpretation of Bond. I just think his tenure has been blighted by clumsy writing, poor editorial control and on-set production problems. It's been an interesting experiment, but I also think they need to go back to the anthology style films.

I read somewhere that one of the leading ideas for the next Bond film is a 60s period piece. That could be interesting. So long as the writers understand who Bond is - a womanising, hard drinking, hard fighting b*stard who can wear a tuxedo.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:57 am It makes sense if you look at the Craig-era Bond as a standalone arc telling the full story timeline of 007. Hence why his films included so many references to previous films and acted as origin stories for other, we'll known characters.

It's not just a continuation of the character like the other Bonds have been.

Indeed, Casino Royale was a complete reboot (albeit with the same actress as M). Although I'd argue that there was a 'soft reboot' after Roger Moore's Bond; there's a thread that runs through the first 3 Bonds (Lazenby has souvenirs from Connery's films, and Moore goes to Tracy's grave), but once Dalton comes along both he and Moneypenny are suddenly young again. And while M calls Brosnan's Bond "a relic of the Cold War" in GoldenEye, it's ludicrous age-wise to think he's the same agent as the one 30+ years earlier in Dr No.

I quite like that the producers don't bother tying themselves up in knots trying to explain continuity like this; Daniel Craig's Bond isn't Pierce Brosnan's Bond, but M looks the same. Do they bother to explain that? Of course not. I spotted in No Time To Die in the scene with her portrait, another portrait was her predecessor, Robert Brown - and I wouldn't be surprised if there's one of the original M, Bernard Lee, in there too.

As an aficionado of the Bond soundtracks, I appreciated Hans Zimmer's reworking of bits of 'We Have All The Time In The World' and the OHMSS theme in the score. Didn't like what they did visually with the opening gunbarrel though, it was even worse than the one in Spectre - although I suppose I should be thankful that at least there was one at the start, unlike Craig's previous 2 films.

Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:01 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:31 pm

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:33 am Yeah, the villain was rubbish. There was zero chemistry between Bond and his main bird. And, despite their best intentions, Token Diverse Female Agent was completely upstaged by the excellent Ana de Armas, who was criminally only afforded 15 minutes screen time.

Liked watching Ana de armas kick people in the face but people need to lose their boners over her as her character of basically an intern/newbie wasnt particularly interesting.

The whole film was a bit of a mess. Must have been halfway through the film before the villain got his second scene.

Theme tune- forgettable, so much so that they had to use an old one for during the film

It is obvious the makers are treating the Craig films as their own little universe, but it just feels wrong to see it brought to an end. Should've left it after Spectre.

Yeah, although I think you're being a little harsh on Ana de Armas. All the supporting characters were poorly written, but I thought that she absolutely bossed every scene she appeared in, even displaying more charisma than Craig.

The theme tune was awful. I can only imagine that the production staff had a bet that they could actually find something worse than the Sam Smith dirge we had to put up with last time.

Personally, I like the Craig interpretation of Bond. I just think his tenure has been blighted by clumsy writing, poor editorial control and on-set production problems. It's been an interesting experiment, but I also think they need to go back to the anthology style films.

I read somewhere that one of the leading ideas for the next Bond film is a 60s period piece. That could be interesting. So long as the writers understand who Bond is - a womanising, hard drinking, hard fighting b*stard who can wear a tuxedo.

Dunners, you know as well as I do that will never happen. In the land of woke the film industry is right at the top of the pile. Bond will be as busy giving moral lessons as he will fighting villains with every passing film.

Next up in Beras new weekly feature ‘If It Ain’t Woke Don’t Fix It’ is Hollywood and how these days you can’t even demand sexual favours from up and coming actors in return for bit part appearances without them wanting a hashtag as well.