Independent Leyton Orient Forum

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:05 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:01 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:40 pm

I think the pandemic could have also thrown a spanner in the works.

In what way did the pandemic impact Orient differently to any other club?

It hit us harder because we were still trying to come to terms with the sad passing of JE.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm Considering we were I touch of the playoffs with clueless Ross in charge, it probably won’t take a lot to get promotion . Saying that, we aren’t a top 3 squad atm.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm Considering we were I touch of the playoffs with clueless Ross in charge, it probably won’t take a lot to get promotion . Saying that, we aren’t a top 3 squad atm.

Orient Punxx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am Gotta be this season.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:39 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm Considering we were I touch of the playoffs with clueless Ross in charge, it probably won’t take a lot to get promotion . Saying that, we aren’t a top 3 squad atm.

Looking forward to yours and other moaners reaction when we don't, youre running out of scapegoats.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:10 pm And are they really moans if they all turn out to be correct? Not sure

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:03 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:10 pm And are they really moans if they all turn out to be correct? Not sure

Correct about what?

Jobi didn't do any better than Ross.

You can still blame it all on Martin Ling if we come up short this season.

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:55 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:03 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:10 pm And are they really moans if they all turn out to be correct? Not sure

Correct about what?

Jobi didn't do any better than Ross.

You can still blame it all on Martin Ling if we come up short this season.

Nah, I wouldn’t blame the bloke who’s job it is to bring in players to achieve the boards ambitions.

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:14 pm Me personally, I have a golden rule. If anything works out well it's Jacketts doing, and if anything works out badly, it's Lings fault.
You won't go far wrong if you follow that

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:58 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:14 pm Me personally, I have a golden rule. If anything works out well it's Jacketts doing, and if anything works out badly, it's Lings fault.
You won't go far wrong if you follow that

at least you're honest

O Superman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:09 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:55 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:03 pm

Correct about what?

Jobi didn't do any better than Ross.

You can still blame it all on Martin Ling if we come up short this season.

Nah, I wouldn’t blame the bloke who’s job it is to bring in players to achieve the boards ambitions.

Purely out of curiosity, would you agree with most on here that the defence has been improved on last year - and if so, is that down to Martin Ling or Kenny Jackett?

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:22 am

O Superman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:09 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:55 pm

Nah, I wouldn’t blame the bloke who’s job it is to bring in players to achieve the boards ambitions.

Purely out of curiosity, would you agree with most on here that the defence has been improved on last year - and if so, is that down to Martin Ling or Kenny Jackett?

I dont know if we've improved the defence, in all honesty. On paper the players look like an upgrade, but time will tell. Not getting carried away with a few clean sheets in friendlies. Last season we actually had a relatively solid backline in terms of goals conceded but they rarely contributed going forward.

Either way, if the defence is an improvement then thats probably credit to both Kenny and Martin? I dont know exactly how they work, do you? Either way both have a level of responsibility for the club to achieve it's goals and if we don't achieve that then both will have to take some responsibility. If it goes well, the same applies.

O Superman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:47 am

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:22 am

O Superman wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:09 pm

Purely out of curiosity, would you agree with most on here that the defence has been improved on last year - and if so, is that down to Martin Ling or Kenny Jackett?

I dont know if we've improved the defence, in all honesty. On paper the players look like an upgrade, but time will tell. Not getting carried away with a few clean sheets in friendlies. Last season we actually had a relatively solid backline in terms of goals conceded but they rarely contributed going forward.

Either way, if the defence is an improvement then thats probably credit to both Kenny and Martin? I dont know exactly how they work, do you? Either way both have a level of responsibility for the club to achieve it's goals and if we don't achieve that then both will have to take some responsibility. If it goes well, the same applies.

No, I don't know either although Ling has said in the past that there are a number of people who have an input into transfers and (I assume) it's his job to sort out the negotiations. I make you right, though. It's a joint responsibility and not all Ling's fault when they get it wrong - as happens at every club.