Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:15 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:03 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:44 pm When Embleton was here, we had Ling saying he hardly ever went down to the training ground, only popping his head in to have a look around and show his face.

Gallen has made it pretty clear the training ground is his domain. Jackett will only be popping along to have a look around and show his face. Ling is done.

Fake news. Thats not what Gallen says.

Yeah, it is.

Prove it

BTT - no, IMO. He's the eyes & ears for Nigel & Kent and the essential (to them) liaison between the football, commercial and daily financial management of the club. JE worked with him OK and I reckon KJ will. I can't see him going anywhere soon.

COYOs

Wtf is this thread about - usual bullying sh ite again.
Ling brought in KJ! Surely if Ling is required by the club then that is the owners decision alone. Either support T or T in this respect or fuc off.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:33 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:15 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:03 am

Fake news. Thats not what Gallen says.

Yeah, it is.

Prove it

No you prove it.

One thing Gallen said in his interview was " I work for Kenny ".....
Not sure if thats significant or not

Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:12 am One thing Gallen said in his interview was " I work for Kenny ".....
Not sure if thats significant or not

My guess is Lings been offer the job of General manager with much changed responsibilities.
I also suspect this comes with a massive pay cut.
Might have to swallow his pride if nothing else is about.

Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:12 am One thing Gallen said in his interview was " I work for Kenny ".....
Not sure if thats significant or not

Not really. He goes everywhere Jackett goes.

Don't see what's changed. Unless one of the board is living in the UK and wants to be more hands on Ling will remain

EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:40 am BTT - no, IMO. He's the eyes & ears for Nigel & Kent and the essential (to them) liaison between the football, commercial and daily financial management of the club. JE worked with him OK and I reckon KJ will. I can't see him going anywhere soon.

COYOs

Exactly this. Once again people not understanding what a DOF does

Well his contract is up in 18 days.....

All our days are numbered. We’re just sacks of perishable meat held together by a few bits of calcium.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:09 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:33 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:15 am

Yeah, it is.

Prove it

No you prove it.

Ban?
Ill give you til Monday to post up some evidence.

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:41 pm

EliotNes wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:40 am BTT - no, IMO. He's the eyes & ears for Nigel & Kent and the essential (to them) liaison between the football, commercial and daily financial management of the club. JE worked with him OK and I reckon KJ will. I can't see him going anywhere soon.

COYOs

Exactly this. Once again people not understanding what a DOF does

DOF role is now redundant.
The new role is General Manager, on I expect a much reduced salary.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:29 pm

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:09 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:33 am
Prove it

No you prove it.

Ban?
Ill give you til Monday to post up some evidence.

Get to f***.

I can understand why he would be hot potato if he has been in dark places historically. The club has a duty to care for staff so no way would chuck him out in the cold without a mentor or social worker package as bad for long and club. But if he ain’t good at job like any other in life gets sack. Courage of conviction comes to mind snd if jacket can’t work with Ling what is the point trying?

Ling is the eyes and ears of T & T. They cannot afford to allow KJ to build his own empire in Leyton unless they have an exec officer (naval term) looking over his shoulder and reporting back to them independently of KJ and his lieutenants. That exec is Ling.
T & T can change Ling's remit every day if they wish, change his title if they wish but the fundamentals remain. Ling is a pivotal character at Leyton Orient with great authority and will probably remain so. If not him, somebody else doing the same role.

As important as Stobart Air may be to their regional airports, I would not go so far as to say Aer Lingus days are numbered

Jack wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:12 am One thing Gallen said in his interview was " I work for Kenny ".....
Not sure if thats significant or not

So LOFC arent paying his wages ?

Touch !

Kimpon wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:05 pm I can understand why he would be hot potato if he has been in dark places historically. The club has a duty to care for staff so no way would chuck him out in the cold without a mentor or social worker package as bad for long and club. But if he ain’t good at job like any other in life gets sack. Courage of conviction comes to mind snd if jacket can’t work with Ling what is the point trying?

As I said before, I believe he has been offered a new role on a reduced salary.
Only a guess, but it might explain the delay in Jacketts appointment of his own assistant and no mention of Lings expiring contract.
I don’t see the need for him in the current role, but I suspect they can use him elsewhere but not on his current salary.

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:20 am I hope I'm wrong but I thought in recent appearances he didn't look very well.

Add that to the palpable grumpiness at the press conference, the removal of the need to support son-of-DOF, and the apparent new broom touching everything (management, investors, ground etc) and this might be a good time for him to call it a day.

Looks some way overweight, which isn't indicative of someone who is looking after themselves
First and foremost, I hope the bloke is okay.

My belief, is that his contract Isn't going to be renewed..the role is beginning to look surplus to requirements, and I'd imagine the Fletcher, and to a lesser extent Embleton, fiascos, still resonate with the owners.
'May' be given a role/title change though, as a thank you for his efforts....

Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:36 am

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:20 am I hope I'm wrong but I thought in recent appearances he didn't look very well.

Add that to the palpable grumpiness at the press conference, the removal of the need to support son-of-DOF, and the apparent new broom touching everything (management, investors, ground etc) and this might be a good time for him to call it a day.

Looks some way overweight, which isn't indicative of someone who is looking after themselves
First and foremost, I hope the bloke is okay.

My belief, is that his contract Isn't going to be renewed..the role is beginning to look surplus to requirements, and I'd imagine the Fletcher, and to a lesser extent Embleton, fiascos, still resonate with the owners.
'May' be given a role/title change though, as a thank you for his efforts....

Good well thought out comment and we shall see what does evolve for Martin Ling. Perhaps Martin will be given a different sort of role in the club with less responsibilities.

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:20 am I hope I'm wrong but I thought in recent appearances he didn't look very well.

Add that to the palpable grumpiness at the press conference, the removal of the need to support son-of-DOF, and the apparent new broom touching everything (management, investors, ground etc) and this might be a good time for him to call it a day.

I think he’s more likely to be relieved to no longer have to talk about his son. Can’t have been an easy situation for either of them

Don’t think he’s that grumpy really, just has a bit of a resting bitch face

o-no wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 8:20 am I hope I'm wrong but I thought in recent appearances he didn't look very well.

Add that to the palpable grumpiness at the press conference, the removal of the need to support son-of-DOF, and the apparent new broom touching everything (management, investors, ground etc) and this might be a good time for him to call it a day.

I like to see him go with a decent pay offfor his own well being. Whatever you think of him and I’m not a fan of him, his son is his son and he does not deserve humiliation. Hope he leaves , going to new pastures and contributes to another team.