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Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:46 am
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:31 am
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:51 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 pm
LOL Jobi said "football's not as simple as just get someone up alongside him which i know is something that's been spoken about"
The club loves throwing shade at this board
And the board will keep throwing it back at them with results like today. Glass houses and all that.
Always carefully covering all your bases aren’t you
1. Did we play 4-4-2 (Y/N)
2. Did we win? (Y/N)
YY: “just shows how clueless Ross was!”
YN: blame Jobi’s inexperience
NY: “we only won because the opposition were terrible”
NN: talk about Jobi being part of the problem and Ross Mk II
All of this is classic gshaw
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:16 am
by gshaw
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:31 am
gshaw wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:51 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 pm
LOL Jobi said "football's not as simple as just get someone up alongside him which i know is something that's been spoken about"
The club loves throwing shade at this board
And the board will keep throwing it back at them with results like today. Glass houses and all that.
Always carefully covering all your bases aren’t you
1. Did we play 4-4-2 (Y/N)
2. Did we win? (Y/N)
YY: “just shows how clueless Ross was!”
YN: blame Jobi’s inexperience
NY: “we only won because the opposition were terrible”
NN: talk about Jobi being part of the problem and Ross Mk II
YY yes he was, never deviated from that view from day one. Decent coach but never right for the big job
YN haven't said that, show me where
NY anyone with a brain would say Grimsby were terrible but there was an uptick in performance to get the result, so your point is?
NN haven't said that either, I know the post you're thinking of but as Shaggy said "it wasn't me"...
RBMarshall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:25 pm
In summary, Jobi was of course part of the Embleton problem being his right hand man and where a settled, confident first team normally excels, at this level Jobi hasn't got the luxury of time (re: interim job title) so he will chop and change with a whole host of players whose careers are going in the wrong direction and individual errors will cost us time after time.
Really hope I'm wrong but this is how I see it.
As for formation whether it's 4-4-2, 3-4-3, 3-5-2 or anything else for that matter just try something different ffs. Yesterday was a free hit to at least learn something from the game. Had a whole season of generally dire performances covered up by Johnson's purple patch and it really shows now he's not returned at the same level.
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:33 pm
by EliotNes
No hiding. Spoke like an experienced manager IMO. "We've had words" or something like that. Yes, I bet I know who said the most. Good interview from him. I await Tuesday with high expectation.
C'mon Jobi, COYOs - I've got faith in you.
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:50 pm
by OldTownO
Anthem of Hope wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:16 am
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:10 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:18 pm
I don’t think he intended DJ to be so isolated.
Probably not. Just down to miscommunication throughout the entire team.
We seriously need a proper manager.
Jobi is a " proper manager " in terms of mangerial attributes / leadership and communication quality - the only attribute that he has not got is actual mangerial expierence - however in his case that is offset of his years of playing under proven managers at a high level as a captain and he will know exactly how a team can win games - what he cannot do is rely on any player to execute his instructions precisely to complete his game plan.
Win or lose I am very comfortable with him - in his two interviews to date one can clearly see the mangerial ability in his chosen words and how he explains simply his thoughts
Give the guy a genuine decent time before one starts negative football remarks about his mangerial potential converted to any premature conclusion.
It could be a long haul getting the team to gel into what he wants and I trust people can be tolerate to him and the club to not get too excited after a win or too despondent after a lost game
Well said that man
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:44 pm
by moonwalk19
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:32 am
TourDeO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:34 pm
I just hope we don’t hear too much ‘first and foremost’ before we get the excuses for another defeat. I hope he changes it to 442 on Tuesday and goes for it...
Vigeroux
Turkey Akinola Happe Widdowson
Wilkinson Clay Kyprianou Broohy
Abrahams Johnson
I agree with that lineup except I’d swap Wilkinson for Kemp and put Wilkinson alongside Johnson. I’d have Abrahams on the bench.
Wilkinson does not have the bottle to play as a Harrold type of player at CF.
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:02 pm
by Thor
Its not necessarily about bottle, but some want the ball to feet all the time rather than 7 feet in the air.
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:00 pm
by gshaw
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:44 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:32 am
TourDeO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:34 pm
I just hope we don’t hear too much ‘first and foremost’ before we get the excuses for another defeat. I hope he changes it to 442 on Tuesday and goes for it...
Vigeroux
Turkey Akinola Happe Widdowson
Wilkinson Clay Kyprianou Broohy
Abrahams Johnson
I agree with that lineup except I’d swap Wilkinson for Kemp and put Wilkinson alongside Johnson. I’d have Abrahams on the bench.
Wilkinson does not have the bottle to play as a Harrold type of player at CF.
This, he doesn't like the physical battles or going up for headers against big lump CBs. Not really sure where he fits, no doubt he has skills and technique but isn't a target man and not as fast as someone like Bonne to run in behind. False 9 perhaps where he gets the ball to feet deeper?
The midfield is where we're still losing the battle, Clay will be more effective against Stevenage I reckon. The must obvious swap is Kyprianou for Cissé, perhaps with Clay doing a more defensive role and Hector carrying the ball forward.
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:43 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:44 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:32 am
TourDeO wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:34 pm
I just hope we don’t hear too much ‘first and foremost’ before we get the excuses for another defeat. I hope he changes it to 442 on Tuesday and goes for it...
Vigeroux
Turkey Akinola Happe Widdowson
Wilkinson Clay Kyprianou Broohy
Abrahams Johnson
I agree with that lineup except I’d swap Wilkinson for Kemp and put Wilkinson alongside Johnson. I’d have Abrahams on the bench.
Wilkinson does not have the bottle to play as a Harrold type of player at CF.
He wouldn’t be playing as a Harold type player. But he does he have enough of a physical presence to play centrally.
DJ and Wilko together as a two has to be worth a go at some point.
Re: McAnuff on Orient's defeat to Exeter
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:16 am
by Orient Punxx
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:43 pm
moonwalk19 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:44 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:32 am
I agree with that lineup except I’d swap Wilkinson for Kemp and put Wilkinson alongside Johnson. I’d have Abrahams on the bench.
Wilkinson does not have the bottle to play as a Harrold type of player at CF.
He wouldn’t be playing as a Harold type player. But he does he have enough of a physical presence to play centrally.
DJ and Wilko together as a two has to be worth a go at some point.
Absolutely - it’s got to be the easiest and most effective way of changing things as well!
