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Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:06 pm
by tuffers#1
Maybe this horror of a year will be
Rhe reason why the NHS goes
Full Scale BOB CROW on the story party .
Theyve been left to deal with all this sh*t with
Nothing but f*ck ups from c*nty tories & there fans !
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:15 pm
by Still wrong
Yep,
The NHS will be reformed.
I can see the Tories charging for a Doctors appointment.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:19 pm
by BoniO
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:15 pm
Yep,
The NHS will be reformed.
I can see the Tories charging for a Doctors appointment.
No way! The Tories have repeatedly said that the NHS is safe with them!!
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:26 pm
by Still wrong
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:19 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:15 pm
Yep,
The NHS will be reformed.
I can see the Tories charging for a Doctors appointment.
No way! The Tories have repeatedly said that the NHS is safe with them!!
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:40 pm
by Harlow
Whatever they get, 20% tax and 12.8% NI goes straight back to the govt. And possibly 4% for pension (I don't know how NHS pensions are funded).
I would support a bigger rise but I would also support paying for car parks to help fund it.
The NHS was formed in 1948 for a society with men dying at 66 and women 71 and without the expensive technology to keep people alive. It really needs to be revamped for the modern world. Would people pay to see your GP if it meant nurses got paid more?
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:04 pm
by BoniO
Whether or not the NHS could do with revamping is not the issue being discussed here.
The issue is that NHS staff, whether front-line or not (back-room staff will likely mingle with front-line staff anyway) have been going/are going above and beyond the call of duty during this pandemic. They have put their, and their families, lives at risk in order to perform their duties. Too often this has been done without the necessary PPE. To now offer them a 1% increase is degrading and disrespectful. It's not as if they are already well paid is it.
The government deserves to be loudly criticised by any means possible with the hope, and expectation, that a U-Turn on this proposal will be forthcoming. Only by shaming will this government consider doing the right thing.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:37 pm
by EH16
The Tories hate the NHS
The Tories have always hated the NHS
If the Tories had had their way there would never have been an NHS
They can't abolish it outright so are doing it by the back door.
Anyone who votes for them is agreeing with their policy (even those too stupid to see it)
All clear now?
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:43 pm
by Pandy
Remind me what it said on the side of the bus?
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:51 pm
by George M
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:04 pm
Whether or not the NHS could do with revamping is not the issue being discussed here.
The issue is that NHS staff, whether front-line or not (back-room staff will likely mingle with front-line staff anyway) have been going/are going above and beyond the call of duty during this pandemic. They have put their, and their families, lives at risk in order to perform their duties. Too often this has been done without the necessary PPE. To now offer them a 1% increase is degrading and disrespectful. It's not as if they are already well paid is it.
The government deserves to be loudly criticised by any means possible with the hope, and expectation, that a U-Turn on this proposal will be forthcoming. Only by shaming will this government consider doing the right thing.
They are not the only ones who have risked their lives as you say. It needed more than just the NHS to keep the country running .
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:57 pm
by BoniO
OK, so who was running the same constant risks as NHS staff?
I appreciate that carers in homes might fall into this category but who are you referring to? And, anyway, just because there may be others who put their lives at risk, this in no way diminishes the work done/risks taken by NHS staff.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:17 pm
by kokomO
Meanwhile failed track & trace costs rise to £37 BILLION!!!!!!!
As the Tory lead in opinion poll stretches even further......
“And the public gets what the public wants......”
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:25 pm
by George M
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:57 pm
OK, so who was running the same constant risks as NHS staff?
I appreciate that carers in homes might fall into this category but who are you referring to? And, anyway, just because there may be others who put their lives at risk, this in no way diminishes the work done/risks taken by NHS staff.
Didn’t say it diminishes their efforts. But we should still praise others that had to work through this who will be lucky to have a job afterwards. Electricity , gas and water kept going , London transport , supermarket workers , mechanics , construction, council workers. The list goes on.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:28 pm
by BoniO
George wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:25 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:57 pm
OK, so who was running the same constant risks as NHS staff?
I appreciate that carers in homes might fall into this category but who are you referring to? And, anyway, just because there may be others who put their lives at risk, this in no way diminishes the work done/risks taken by NHS staff.
Didn’t say it diminishes their efforts. But we should still praise others that had to work through this who will be lucky to have a job afterwards. Electricity , gas and water kept going , London transport , supermarket workers , mechanics , construction, council workers. The list goes on.
So all these workers were under the same level of threat as the NHS workers, non-stop, for their whole shift. Really. I'm not diminishing the efforts of these other workers but they're not in the same boat as the NHS staff.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:32 pm
by BoniO
kokomO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:17 pm
Meanwhile failed track & trace costs rise to £37 BILLION!!!!!!!
As the Tory lead in opinion poll stretches even further......
“And the public gets what the public wants......”
Normally, you'd hope that they'd know when to pull the plug on this White Elephant but I suppose the gravy chain needs to continue. Boris's chums probably have expensive tastes. I wonder how many years this amount of money could have funded a reasonable pay rise for NHS workers.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:36 pm
by George M
I’m sorry but working non stop through a shift is what we should all do. They are paid well , they do a great job , but I would prefer another way of rewarding them rather than the stupid figures people are banding about.
A nurse called in to Radio 5 today and spoke sensibly about it. She would prefer free training , free parking for example. She wasn’t complaining about her Salary or the rise.
Unions will always complain and threaten. It’s just bartering
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:54 pm
by tuffers#1
George being the Tory voice of STUPIDITY once more .
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:01 pm
by BoniO
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:54 pm
George being the Tory voice of STUPIDITY once more .
To be fair, he's bloody good at it.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:12 pm
by tuffers#1
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:01 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:54 pm
George being the Tory voice of STUPIDITY once more .
To be fair, he's bloody good at it.
Yup ,
Stupid is what Stupid does !
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:17 pm
by Thor
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:58 pm
Cant we Just get someone to Shoot at all of the Tory Party ?
Not even funny comical Tuffers as there is probably some lunatic out there that would consider it. Withdraw the comment as it’s dangerous.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:18 pm
by tuffers#1
Thor wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:17 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:58 pm
Cant we Just get someone to Shoot at all of the Tory Party ?
Not even funny comical Tuffers as there is probably some lunatic out there that would consider it. Withdraw the comment as it’s dangerous.
The Right Wing are still winning 1-0 thorbyn
Jo Cox !
Plus its a question ot a statement !!
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:18 pm
by kokomO
George wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:36 pm
I’m sorry but working non stop through a shift is what we should all do. They are paid well , they do a great job , but I would prefer another way of rewarding them rather than the stupid figures people are banding about.
A nurse called in to Radio 5 today and spoke sensibly about it. She would prefer free training , free parking for example. She wasn’t complaining about her Salary or the rise.
Unions will always complain and threaten. It’s just bartering
Exactly , I can’t believe they’re not satisfied by being clapped once a week, bit ungrateful eh....
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:19 pm
by Still wrong
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:12 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:01 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:54 pm
George being the Tory voice of STUPIDITY once more .
To be fair, he's bloody good at it.
Yup ,
Stupid is what Stupid does !
Blimey, you know you’re on a loser when Comical Tuffers call you stupid.
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:20 pm
by tuffers#1
kokomO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:18 pm
George wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:36 pm
I’m sorry but working non stop through a shift is what we should all do. They are paid well , they do a great job , but I would prefer another way of rewarding them rather than the stupid figures people are banding about.
A nurse called in to Radio 5 today and spoke sensibly about it. She would prefer free training , free parking for example. She wasn’t complaining about her Salary or the rise.
Unions will always complain and threaten. It’s just bartering
Exactly , I can’t believe they’re not satisfied by being clapped once a week, bit ungrateful eh....
Well they get to wipe the sh*tty arses of the extremely sick
Surely that should be a plus for them !!
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:20 pm
by tuffers#1
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:19 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:12 pm
BoniO wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:01 pm
To be fair, he's bloody good at it.
Yup ,
Stupid is what Stupid does !
Blimey, you know you’re on a loser when Comical Tuffers call you stupid.
Stalking me againg are we ?
Re: Disgusting Pay offer to NHS
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:21 pm
by Still wrong
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:20 pm
Still wrong wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:19 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:12 pm
Yup ,
Stupid is what Stupid does !
Blimey, you know you’re on a loser when Comical Tuffers call you stupid.
Stalking me againg are we ?
Could you repeat that in English please?
