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I reckon he is Huxley.Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:42 pm Podcast ladz need to ask him which boarders he likes and doesn't
I’m happy to admit that my comments about the owners were misjudged.o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:39 pmAn entirely specious attempt to lay your previous idiotic posts at the door of banter. Why don't you just hold your hands up and admit you mis-boarded.Huxley wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:07 pmNothing. I think that this message board is great entertainment. Excellent source of banter.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:05 pm What would you like moderated and why havent you reported it?
Ideally this year as that’s what the board expected after our performers showed that he team was capable of doing so. He agrees with me that the squad is a top 3 team. He did say though if we don’t go up this year we have to go up next year.
This is how committees work. Each person will bring their own personal expertise and viewpoint. The expertise Ling brings is is knowledge of football in general and players in particular. He will the the one recommending names, in and out.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:11 amIt won't stop the thickos who just don't understand (or those with more intelligence who refuse to understand).Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:03 am Yep Nigel confirmed in the first 5 minutes of the pod that he reads the board
Fair play to him for explaining yet again why we have a DOF. Patience of a saint
Travis re-iterated (must have heard this a dozen times at least) that there is a transfer committee that includes Ling and others with accountability over the decisions made, but again that won't stop those people deliberately ignoring this and targeting individual members of the committee instead when they're not happy about a transfer in or out.
But the head coach/manager is also on the transfer committee and so will also have input into the transfers. If they make a case for a player/position then that will also carry weight.Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pmThis is how committees work. Each person will bring their own personal expertise and viewpoint. The expertise Ling brings is is knowledge of football in general and players in particular. He will the the one recommending names, in and out.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:11 amIt won't stop the thickos who just don't understand (or those with more intelligence who refuse to understand).Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:03 am Yep Nigel confirmed in the first 5 minutes of the pod that he reads the board
Fair play to him for explaining yet again why we have a DOF. Patience of a saint
Travis re-iterated (must have heard this a dozen times at least) that there is a transfer committee that includes Ling and others with accountability over the decisions made, but again that won't stop those people deliberately ignoring this and targeting individual members of the committee instead when they're not happy about a transfer in or out.
The rest of the committee will question, in a positive way, and correctly so, the whys and wherefores of his views and in the case of the existing squad maybe throwin some names of their own.
But as DoF Ling is the expert, prepared to explain his views, be challenged. But ultimately unless the committee can come up with good reason, Ling’s expertise will carry the day.
Is Ling an expert though?Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pmThis is how committees work. Each person will bring their own personal expertise and viewpoint. The expertise Ling brings is is knowledge of football in general and players in particular. He will the the one recommending names, in and out.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:11 amIt won't stop the thickos who just don't understand (or those with more intelligence who refuse to understand).Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:03 am Yep Nigel confirmed in the first 5 minutes of the pod that he reads the board
Fair play to him for explaining yet again why we have a DOF. Patience of a saint
Travis re-iterated (must have heard this a dozen times at least) that there is a transfer committee that includes Ling and others with accountability over the decisions made, but again that won't stop those people deliberately ignoring this and targeting individual members of the committee instead when they're not happy about a transfer in or out.
The rest of the committee will question, in a positive way, and correctly so, the whys and wherefores of his views and in the case of the existing squad maybe throwin some names of their own.
But as DoF Ling is the expert, prepared to explain his views, be challenged. But ultimately unless the committee can come up with good reason, Ling’s expertise will carry the day.
So they talk b........ks for 2 hours then agree that Ling was right.Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pmThis is how committees work. Each person will bring their own personal expertise and viewpoint. The expertise Ling brings is is knowledge of football in general and players in particular. He will the the one recommending names, in and out.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:11 amIt won't stop the thickos who just don't understand (or those with more intelligence who refuse to understand).Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:03 am Yep Nigel confirmed in the first 5 minutes of the pod that he reads the board
Fair play to him for explaining yet again why we have a DOF. Patience of a saint
Travis re-iterated (must have heard this a dozen times at least) that there is a transfer committee that includes Ling and others with accountability over the decisions made, but again that won't stop those people deliberately ignoring this and targeting individual members of the committee instead when they're not happy about a transfer in or out.
The rest of the committee will question, in a positive way, and correctly so, the whys and wherefores of his views and in the case of the existing squad maybe throwin some names of their own.
But as DoF Ling is the expert, prepared to explain his views, be challenged. But ultimately unless the committee can come up with good reason, Ling’s expertise will carry the day.
I don’t think the owners see him as an oracle. They rely on his expertise as they a) don’t have a footballing background / connections themselves and b) live in America.o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:26 pmIs Ling an expert though?Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:39 pmThis is how committees work. Each person will bring their own personal expertise and viewpoint. The expertise Ling brings is is knowledge of football in general and players in particular. He will the the one recommending names, in and out.Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:11 am
It won't stop the thickos who just don't understand (or those with more intelligence who refuse to understand).
Travis re-iterated (must have heard this a dozen times at least) that there is a transfer committee that includes Ling and others with accountability over the decisions made, but again that won't stop those people deliberately ignoring this and targeting individual members of the committee instead when they're not happy about a transfer in or out.
The rest of the committee will question, in a positive way, and correctly so, the whys and wherefores of his views and in the case of the existing squad maybe throwin some names of their own.
But as DoF Ling is the expert, prepared to explain his views, be challenged. But ultimately unless the committee can come up with good reason, Ling’s expertise will carry the day.
Just because you've been doing something a long time doesn't mean you're any good at it.
I don't know him, and have no personal beef with him, but his record is average at best. Even as O's manager you could make a case that it was Dean Smith who was doing the heavy lifting based on their subsequent careers.
He's done a stellar job of convincing the owners that he is some sort of footballing oracle, but I'm not convinced. He knows he's onto a good thing with owners based overseas, but there's nothing there to suggest he has the ability to match our owners ambition.
Hence why you have a committee to push back and challenge ML. I have not agreed with everything he has done, but I’d say he is still in the credit side of the ledger. I’d keep the role and I’d keep ML as well from our limited sight of what he does do.o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:32 pm I can agree he’s brought some value to the club, but could we have done even better. Sure, he bought in Justin, but he also bought in Carl and Steve. He convinced Ross he could do a job he couldn’t do. He brought in his own son, and publicly dressed down a rival for his position. He’s surrounded himself with coaches beholden to him, and that seldom ends well for anyone. He’s not a liability, but he’s holding us back - I’m sure of it
Totally agree.o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:32 pm I can agree he’s brought some value to the club, but could we have done even better. Sure, he bought in Justin, but he also bought in Carl and Steve. He convinced Ross he could do a job he couldn’t do. He brought in his own son, and publicly dressed down a rival for his position. He’s surrounded himself with coaches beholden to him, and that seldom ends well for anyone. He’s not a liability, but he’s holding us back - I’m sure of it
Good summary.o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:32 pm I can agree he’s brought some value to the club, but could we have done even better. Sure, he bought in Justin, but he also bought in Carl and Steve. He convinced Ross he could do a job he couldn’t do. He brought in his own son, and publicly dressed down a rival for his position. He’s surrounded himself with coaches beholden to him, and that seldom ends well for anyone. He’s not a liability, but he’s holding us back - I’m sure of it
The transfer committee isn't a new thing, it's been in place for a long time.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:49 pmGood summary.o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:32 pm I can agree he’s brought some value to the club, but could we have done even better. Sure, he bought in Justin, but he also bought in Carl and Steve. He convinced Ross he could do a job he couldn’t do. He brought in his own son, and publicly dressed down a rival for his position. He’s surrounded himself with coaches beholden to him, and that seldom ends well for anyone. He’s not a liability, but he’s holding us back - I’m sure of it
Now they seem to have spun up a transfer committee because they either don’t trust him to do his job or see it as a way of deflecting blame off of him.
Where to start with this rubbish?o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:32 pm I can agree he’s brought some value to the club, but could we have done even better. Sure, he bought in Justin, but he also bought in Carl and Steve. He convinced Ross he could do a job he couldn’t do. He brought in his own son, and publicly dressed down a rival for his position. He’s surrounded himself with coaches beholden to him, and that seldom ends well for anyone. He’s not a liability, but he’s holding us back - I’m sure of it
Can't win. If they didn't have one you'd be crying about that too.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:49 pmGood summary.o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:32 pm I can agree he’s brought some value to the club, but could we have done even better. Sure, he bought in Justin, but he also bought in Carl and Steve. He convinced Ross he could do a job he couldn’t do. He brought in his own son, and publicly dressed down a rival for his position. He’s surrounded himself with coaches beholden to him, and that seldom ends well for anyone. He’s not a liability, but he’s holding us back - I’m sure of it
Now they seem to have spun up a transfer committee because they either don’t trust him to do his job or see it as a way of deflecting blame off of him.
It can be started with the fact that very few decentPrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:46 pmWhere to start with this rubbish?o-no wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:32 pm I can agree he’s brought some value to the club, but could we have done even better. Sure, he bought in Justin, but he also bought in Carl and Steve. He convinced Ross he could do a job he couldn’t do. He brought in his own son, and publicly dressed down a rival for his position. He’s surrounded himself with coaches beholden to him, and that seldom ends well for anyone. He’s not a liability, but he’s holding us back - I’m sure of it
Seeing as he got pissed off at one of my posts, I reckon I’m a Nigel favouriteCurrywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:42 pm Podcast ladz need to ask him which boarders he likes and doesn't
Have you been messaged? If not don’t worry, you don’t register with them.BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 8:48 amSeeing as he got pissed off at one of my posts, I reckon I’m a Nigel favouriteCurrywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:42 pm Podcast ladz need to ask him which boarders he likes and doesn't