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tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:27 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:49 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:44 pm

No ITS NOT OK !!

YOU DESERVE TO BE PERMANENTLY BANNED FOR THIS SICKENING ATTACK
ON KENT'S WORDS & JUSTINS MEMORY !!

I said nothing that attacked Justin’s memory or what Kent said

Now YOU are just telling LIES !!

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm
Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

There are your exact words
YOU HAVE CLAIMED KENT BLAMED JUSTIN FOR THE SQUAD !!

You have DISGUSTED me & others with these VILE accusations .

SIMPLY PUT , You are NOT an ORIENT FAN !!


YOU ARE.A.DISGRACE TO THIS FOOTBALL CLUB
ITS STAFF ITS PLAYERS THIS BOARD &
MOST OF ALL TO FELLOW ORIENT FANS !!

BAN HIM MODS !!

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:03 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:30 pm

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:01 pm

What he said and how you choose to interpret them are two different things.

Interpret this in another way then

“The turnover at the club this summer is due to decisions that Justin made when we won the league championship, the national league championship. That Justin wanted to re-sign all of his players, he had a very strong belief that the players that he had could get us from the national league to league 1 and he believed they had just proven that by winning the national league. And so all of those players that you are talking about, those are all Justin’s signings. All of them. Every single one of them. Except not DJ and not Vigaroux, but, the vast majority are Justin’s signings” and then it goes on to whether DJ and Vigaroux will re-sign.

Yes its what he said, but you seem to miss the part that Justin believed they would take us to league 1. That squad was good enough to do exactly that and you've seen this season that they are good enough to do that.

The players are not the problem, the head coach is the problem and its questionable if he has the qualities to set us up correctly, coach them correctly, motivate them and when the sh*t hits the fan have a plan b to revert to. So far he has proved that he falls short in many of those areas.

So Justin is not to blame in any way shape or form, Kent never expressed that opinion and I personally believe Justin would have taken us straight up last season and if anything we've seen this season we would be top of the league under him this season.

No one seems to have picked up on the issue in the coaching team. Kent said that Ross needs to trust the coaching team more. That was a massive statement for me. He either is not delegating enough to them, does not let them run the sessions or is not fully listening to any feedback that they may be giving. I don't know what the issue actually is, but its quite damming on Ross.

Now it does make sense to me, as I said as recently as sat that Ross needs to take some feedback from Danny. Seems like that's not happening or not being taken on board if it is. Some said on here that WhatsApp was down during the game or something like that, if that's whats been said then again it shows that the communication is not what it should be and the fact we played two of our better games this season without Ross there and we played quite differently as well suggests they kind of did what they wanted to do rather than what Ross wanted, possibly?

Whatever the issues are Ross needs to pull his finger out, play his best players in their best positions, have a plan b, communicate better and let's go and attack the opposition instead of being kind of scared of them.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:27 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:49 pm
I said nothing that attacked Justin’s memory or what Kent said

Now YOU are just telling LIES !!

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm
Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

There are your exact words
YOU HAVE CLAIMED KENT BLAMED JUSTIN FOR THE SQUAD !!

You have DISGUSTED me & others with these VILE accusations .

SIMPLY PUT , You are NOT an ORIENT FAN !!


YOU ARE.A.DISGRACE TO THIS FOOTBALL CLUB
ITS STAFF ITS PLAYERS THIS BOARD &
MOST OF ALL TO FELLOW ORIENT FANS !!

BAN HIM MODS !!

What part of Justin wanted to re-resign the squad and Kent not giving Martin Ling any of that blame are you struggling to wrap your head around?

You’re a weird weird man

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:45 pm Not your finest hour Biggsymoron

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:40 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:35 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:27 pm

Now YOU are just telling LIES !!



There are your exact words
YOU HAVE CLAIMED KENT BLAMED JUSTIN FOR THE SQUAD !!

You have DISGUSTED me & others with these VILE accusations .

SIMPLY PUT , You are NOT an ORIENT FAN !!


YOU ARE.A.DISGRACE TO THIS FOOTBALL CLUB
ITS STAFF ITS PLAYERS THIS BOARD &
MOST OF ALL TO FELLOW ORIENT FANS !!

BAN HIM MODS !!

What part of Justin wanted to re-resign the squad and Kent not giving Martin Ling any of that blame are you struggling to wrap your head around?

You’re a weird weird man

Justin re-signed players he thought he would coach .
Justin then sadly passed away !!

Anyone else would struggle to do anything after that kind of devastating event
At this football club .

To CALIM KENT BLAMES Justin
Is still DISGUSTING & A VILE ATTACK BY YOU ON
KENT MARTIN ROSS THE PLAYERS & JUSTINS MEMORY .

NOT EVEN GOING TO MENTION , how You view other ORIENT FANS .

JUST DISGRACEFUL !!

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:56 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:58 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:56 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:56 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:59 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:58 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:56 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

Anyone want to play " SPOT THE DIFFERENCE " ?

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:02 pm Anyone ?
Spot the DIFFERDNCE ?

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

Should keep you all busy for a couple of minutes

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:05 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:02 pm Anyone ?
Spot the DIFFERDNCE ?

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

Should keep you all busy for a couple of minutes

What about it?

What do you actually think I’ve said?

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:30 pm

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:01 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:38 pm
Kent literally said those words. Not me

What he said and how you choose to interpret them are two different things.

Interpret this in another way then

“The turnover at the club this summer is due to decisions that Justin made when we won the league championship, the national league championship. That Justin wanted to re-sign all of his players, he had a very strong belief that the players that he had could get us from the national league to league 1 and he believed they had just proven that by winning the national league. And so all of those players that you are talking about, those are all Justin’s signings. All of them. Every single one of them. Except not DJ and not Vigaroux, but, the vast majority are Justin’s signings” and then it goes on to whether DJ and Vigaroux will re-sign.

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:10 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:30 pm

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:01 pm

What he said and how you choose to interpret them are two different things.

Interpret this in another way then

“The turnover at the club this summer is due to decisions that Justin made when we won the league championship, the national league championship. That Justin wanted to re-sign all of his players, he had a very strong belief that the players that he had could get us from the national league to league 1 and he believed they had just proven that by winning the national league. And so all of those players that you are talking about, those are all Justin’s signings. All of them. Every single one of them. Except not DJ and not Vigaroux, but, the vast majority are Justin’s signings” and then it goes on to whether DJ and Vigaroux will re-sign.

That is not blaming Justin, just explaining the reasons why Justin wanted to give the NL Championship winning team a chance to continue to prove their worth at a higher level. I for one will not challenge Justin’s Judgement. Sadly he never got the chance to put his judgement to the test and justify his opinion.

That is not blame! Go away.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:13 pm

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:10 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:30 pm
Interpret this in another way then

“The turnover at the club this summer is due to decisions that Justin made when we won the league championship, the national league championship. That Justin wanted to re-sign all of his players, he had a very strong belief that the players that he had could get us from the national league to league 1 and he believed they had just proven that by winning the national league. And so all of those players that you are talking about, those are all Justin’s signings. All of them. Every single one of them. Except not DJ and not Vigaroux, but, the vast majority are Justin’s signings” and then it goes on to whether DJ and Vigaroux will re-sign.

That is not blaming Justin, just explaining the reasons why Justin wanted to give the NL Championship winning team a chance to continue to prove their worth at a higher level. I for one will not challenge Justin’s Judgement. Sadly he never got the chance to put his judgement to the test and justify his opinion.

That is not blame! Go away.

I haven’t f*cking questioned his judgement. Jesus christ. The club chose to give everyone 2 year deals, not Justin. As I’ve mentioned several times, the club needs to be better at protecting our assets by giving them longer contracts. That has NOTHING to do with Justin.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:14 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:13 pm

Dohnut (ALM) wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:10 pm

That is not blaming Justin, just explaining the reasons why Justin wanted to give the NL Championship winning team a chance to continue to prove their worth at a higher level. I for one will not challenge Justin’s Judgement. Sadly he never got the chance to put his judgement to the test and justify his opinion.

That is not blame! Go away.

I haven’t f*cking questioned his judgement. Jesus christ. The club chose to give everyone 2 year deals, not Justin. As I’ve mentioned several times, the club needs to be better at protecting our assets by giving them longer contracts. That has NOTHING to do with Justin.

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:22 pm

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:00 pm Fantastic to hear him blame Justin Edinburgh for the mess we're in this summer

Spot the Difference LOFC Style

BiggsyMalone wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:54 pm
I don’t really care. The bloke said the number of players out of contract this summer is down to another manager and didn’t even mention other factors at the club. Whether it was a slip of the tongue or not. At no point have I criticised Justin Edinburgh. I’m not going to let some hysterical bloke on a forum talk bollocks and paint it like I’ve shat all over Justin Edinburgh because I clearly haven’t.

How many can you find ?

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:45 pm Not your finest hour Biggsymoron

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:29 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:45 pm Not your finest hour Biggsymoron

I Have to Agree .

cockhat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:01 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:29 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:45 pm Not your finest hour Biggsymoron

I Have to Agree .

You’re at it again. Look in the mirror and see what a nasty sh.t you are!