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Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:01 am
by BiggsyMalone
He wouldn’t have got anywhere near the van
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:02 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
The people effectively saying ‘the cyclist was asking for it’ are the sort to use that phrase in other situations, aren’t they.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:28 am
by Oiram
Stowaway wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:57 am
Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:47 am
DPD drivers seem a law on to themselves, dangerous three point turns, park where they like, block drives and so on. In my view the driver of the van entered the side street too fast without a clear view into the side street to enable him to safely manoeuvre into it unimpeded. It does seem he was forced to brake for unknown reasons thereby not being able to clear the junction without danger to those riding or driving in the oncoming direction. He has forced them to alter their course by his reckless actions and driving.
In defence of the DPD, any Hipster, woke, lefty , Hackney gentrified idiot riding a Penny Farthing at speed like that dope, in a built up area is asking for trouble. I don’t think they have any brakes in such reproduced contraptions.
Yeah, because he’s riding a vintage bike he deserves to be run off the road. You massive tw@t.
Read what I said. Have I mentioned ‘deserved?’ Typical snowflake you are imagining things.
It is not a vintage bike for a start , it is a reproduction one you oaf.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:36 am
by BiggsyMalone
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:02 am
The people effectively saying ‘the cyclist was asking for it’ are the sort to use that phrase in other situations, aren’t they.
Vote Tory. Voted Brexit. Have a fry up every morning on holiday.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:41 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Please keep politics out of this thread
This is strictly about who was at fault in this RTC.
Van driver Vs Hipster bellend
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:04 pm
by PoliticOs
The bankers.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:41 pm
by LittleMate
Its the Tories fault......always
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:12 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
They both share the responsibility for this accident.
IMO the van shouldnt have turned right, until the cyclist had gone by. I think he thought he could just about squeeze by before the cyclist got to him, but his judgement was poor.
However, IMO, modern roads are no place to be riding a penny-farthing. I believe they dont have brakes. Had they had brakes, the cyclist would have braked, and there wouldnt have been contact
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:24 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Does anyone know if a penny farthing has brakes? Can't believe that it hasn't been mentioned previously in this thread.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:41 pm
by Oiram
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:43 pm
by Oiram
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:12 pm
They both share the responsibility for this accident.
IMO the van shouldnt have turned right, until the cyclist had gone by. I think he thought he could just about squeeze by before the cyclist got to him, but his judgement was poor.
However, IMO, modern roads are no place to be riding a penny-farthing. I believe they dont have brakes. Had they had brakes, the cyclist would have braked, and there wouldnt have been contact
What you are saying is basically, they are pair of counts? ( ‘O’ for Orient. )
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:28 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Apparently, at the time ( 1860s ), some did have 'weak' brakes, and some had no brakes. The problem was, if you braked hard, you would catapult over the handlebars, so the majority didnt have brakes.
We dont know if the one in the accident had brakes or not, but i suspect not. If you look at the cyclist, just before the accident, he takes his feet off the pedals, suggesting he knew he was going to hit the van, and come off, but who really knows either way
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:32 pm
by Ornchurch
Who gives a f***?
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:02 pm
by Thor
White van man is 100% at fault here.
However, how does the hipster geezer put his foot down at a set if lights?
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:17 pm
by Oiram
Stowaway wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:57 am
Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:47 am
DPD drivers seem a law on to themselves, dangerous three point turns, park where they like, block drives and so on. In my view the driver of the van entered the side street too fast without a clear view into the side street to enable him to safely manoeuvre into it unimpeded. It does seem he was forced to brake for unknown reasons thereby not being able to clear the junction without danger to those riding or driving in the oncoming direction. He has forced them to alter their course by his reckless actions and driving.
In defence of the DPD, any Hipster, woke, lefty , Hackney gentrified idiot riding a Penny Farthing at speed like that dope, in a built up area is asking for trouble. I don’t think they have any brakes in such reproduced contraptions.
Yeah, because he’s riding a vintage bike he deserves to be run off the road. You massive tw@t.
Reproduction Penny Farthing you clot, hardly ‘vintage’
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:31 pm
by Adz
Is a bike without brakes road legal? If the bike is not roadworthy then the below is all redundant I'd assume, although we'd need a legal eagle to confirm.
It's the van drivers fault. Having been run over in a similar fashion I.e van turning and me getting t boned. You have a split second when you see it in front of you to make a call as to whether they're going to accelerate out of your way or slam the brakes on and stop in front of you. In this case the biker swerves left expecting the van to brake, mine was the opposite, I stayed on line and the van broke in front of me.
For me, the driver ended up in court for dangerous driving occasioning grievous bodily harm, lost her licence for a couple of years and incurred a massive fine.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:30 pm
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
The ref ... cos the wall was 10+1/2 yards away.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:15 am
by Stowaway
Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:17 pm
Stowaway wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:57 am
Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:47 am
DPD drivers seem a law on to themselves, dangerous three point turns, park where they like, block drives and so on. In my view the driver of the van entered the side street too fast without a clear view into the side street to enable him to safely manoeuvre into it unimpeded. It does seem he was forced to brake for unknown reasons thereby not being able to clear the junction without danger to those riding or driving in the oncoming direction. He has forced them to alter their course by his reckless actions and driving.
In defence of the DPD, any Hipster, woke, lefty , Hackney gentrified idiot riding a Penny Farthing at speed like that dope, in a built up area is asking for trouble. I don’t think they have any brakes in such reproduced contraptions.
Yeah, because he’s riding a vintage bike he deserves to be run off the road. You massive tw@t.
Reproduction Penny Farthing you clot, hardly ‘vintage’
Reproduction, is it? You know the guy? No? I do. It’s not a repro. It’s a restored 120 year old bike. My statement stands. Don’t talk sh1te on a subject you know nothing about. You’re a massive tw@t. Now f**k off.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:20 am
by Stowaway
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:12 pm
They both share the responsibility for this accident.
IMO the van shouldnt have turned right, until the cyclist had gone by. I think he thought he could just about squeeze by before the cyclist got to him, but his judgement was poor.
However, IMO, modern roads are no place to be riding a penny-farthing. I believe they dont have brakes. Had they had brakes, the cyclist would have braked, and there wouldnt have been contact
You believe wrong. It’s a fixed gear bike with a spoon brake, perfectly legal under UK law -
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1983/1176/made
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:11 am
by Oiram
Stowaway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:15 am
Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:17 pm
Stowaway wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:57 am
Yeah, because he’s riding a vintage bike he deserves to be run off the road. You massive tw@t.
Reproduction Penny Farthing you clot, hardly ‘vintage’
Reproduction, is it? You know the guy? No? I do. It’s not a repro. It’s a restored 120 year old bike. My statement stands. Don’t talk sh1te on a subject you know nothing about. You’re a massive tw@t. Now f**k off.
Happy New Year to you too.
It is not an original bicycle. Stop lying
If he is your imaginary friend , advise him to read the Highway Code as the laws apply to all road users.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:19 am
by Oiram
Oiram wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 6:11 am
Stowaway wrote: ↑Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:15 am
Oiram wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:17 pm
Reproduction Penny Farthing you clot, hardly ‘vintage’
Reproduction, is it? You know the guy? No? I do. It’s not a repro. It’s a restored 120 year old bike. My statement stands. Don’t talk sh1te on a subject you know nothing about. You’re a massive tw@t. Now f**k off.
Happy New Year to you too.
It is not an original bicycle. Stop lying
If he is your imaginary friend , advise him to read the Highway Code as the laws apply to all road users.
The person who made the Penny Farthing says he recognised the bike you fibber. Unless the man is 120 years old of course.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dail ... treet.html
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:26 am
by Harlow
Penny (Farthing) for your thoughts on this one!
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:42 am
by RedDwarf 1881
The cyclist was an idiot for riding one of those around here. That’s what happens when you ride a Penny Farthing in Hackney. “Bertie Big Bollocks “ was asking for it because it’s not meant for our roads . What’s wrong with the park. ?
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:12 pm
by Thor
What’s wrong with the road? It’s legal and if the van had done what it should have done and waitied this wouldn’t have happened. An idiot van driver I’m afraid.
Re: Which party is at fault for this crash?
Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:57 pm
by PutneyO
Did the cyclist have a crash helmet on ?