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Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:49 pm
by PoundhillO
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:39 pm
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:40 am
Players seem to be in favour still, some people applaud, some boo, all are free to express their opinions in a free society, but there will come a point when it’ll stop for sure, just as the clapping the NHS.
If someone boos this anti racist gesture they are a racist. Its as simple as that.
If they come to Orient and do it I will ask the club to ban then in line with their stated values and practice regarding this matter.
100% agree, there can be no ifs or buts.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:58 pm
by LeapsAndBounds
When I watch the stream, I always avoid watching players taking the knee by popping into the kitchen and doing something more enjoyable like the washing up.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:03 pm
by Dunners
Kneeling for 3 seconds is clearly not working. I therefore propose that it be extended to 6 seconds and doubling thereafter every 2 weeks until we Get Racism Done.
Anyone who doesn't agree is clearly not anti-racist enough.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:16 pm
by tuffers#1
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:49 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:39 pm
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:40 am
Players seem to be in favour still, some people applaud, some boo, all are free to express their opinions in a free society, but there will come a point when it’ll stop for sure, just as the clapping the NHS.
If someone boos this anti racist gesture they are a racist. Its as simple as that.
If they come to Orient and do it I will ask the club to ban then in line with their stated values and practice regarding this matter.
100% agree, there can be no ifs or buts.
Cant say it any better than this
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:45 pm
by EH16
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:42 am
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:24 am
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:05 am
Since when has being bored racist ?
I beg your pardon?
You’re bored for those 3 seconds? Really?
Not me personally but I think people in general will start to take less and less notice of it .
The fact that people are now actually taking enough notice to start booing surely suggests the exact opposite of what you said?
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:47 pm
by PoliticOs
It's good to see that those opposing it are only doing so for the fact they want it to have more impact in another way, and because of their concerns about marxism specifically. And only those two reasons.
They are fully behind the idea! They just hate thinking it isn't gaining enough traction nor do they enjoy the works of Karl Marx.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:48 pm
by Mistadobalina
Assume that Bera is taking the piss, but anyone booing it at home sounds like the saddest kind of muppet imaginable.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:57 pm
by tuffers#1
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:48 pm
Assume that Bera is taking the piss, but anyone booing it at home sounds like the saddest kind of muppet imaginable.
Bear boos during his dreams
Never mind what he does at home !
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:19 pm
by PutneyO
Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:34 am
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:45 am
This racist thread should be deleted and Oiram banned
Why? For repeating headline news from the FA?
You're a disgrace, you should be ashamed of yourself, haven't those poor poor afro-caribbean people been through enough
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:38 pm
by Admin
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 2:48 pm
Assume that Bera is taking the piss, but anyone booing it at home sounds like the saddest kind of muppet imaginable.
Bera’s not taking the piss. Her believes we’re all racist.
DuvB has however duly obliged with muppertry - 2nd post page 1.
And at this juncture the prosecution rests its case.
It is very simple. Give your swede a big old wobble if you’re against this gesture in any shape of form. Keep doing it until it dawns you that you’re objecting to an anti-racist gesture. You big old racists.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:59 pm
by Ornchurch
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:30 pm
by Oiram
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:19 pm
Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:34 am
PutneyO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:45 am
This racist thread should be deleted and Oiram banned
Why? For repeating headline news from the FA?
You're a disgrace, you should be ashamed of yourself, haven't those poor poor afro-caribbean people been through enough
‘Enough’ of what?
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:20 pm
by George M
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:39 pm
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:40 am
Players seem to be in favour still, some people applaud, some boo, all are free to express their opinions in a free society, but there will come a point when it’ll stop for sure, just as the clapping the NHS.
If someone boos this anti racist gesture they are a racist. Its as simple as that.
If they come to Orient and do it I will ask the club to ban them in line with their stated values and practice regarding this matter.
Am I a racist for not paying any attention to it because it’s nonsense.
I get the feeling now that racism is a subject discussed between the older generations, yet is paid no attention to by the younger generation who live side by side with each other happily
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:23 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
George wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:20 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:39 pm
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 10:40 am
Players seem to be in favour still, some people applaud, some boo, all are free to express their opinions in a free society, but there will come a point when it’ll stop for sure, just as the clapping the NHS.
If someone boos this anti racist gesture they are a racist. Its as simple as that.
If they come to Orient and do it I will ask the club to ban them in line with their stated values and practice regarding this matter.
Am I a racist for not paying any attention to it because it’s nonsense.
I get the feeling now that racism is a subject discussed between the older generations, yet is paid no attention to by the younger generation who live side by side with each other happily
That’s totally understandable, to think it’s a bit of a nonsense.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:36 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
Duvb just constantly wrong on everything. Seem to remember him getting offended at me calling him racist once. Interesting.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:25 pm
by Thor
It seems like a lot of you don’t have young children, don’t interact with young kids in any way shape or form.
The young of today do not see things the way some on this board do, they are totally against racists, against victimisation, bullying and so on. They will drive this world forwards in a positive way.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:27 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:25 pm
It seems like a lot of you don’t have young children, don’t interact with young kids in any way shape or form.
The young of today do not see things the way some on this board do, they are totally against racists, against victimisation, bullying and so on. They will drive this world forwards in a positive way.
What’s that got to do with anything?
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:32 pm
by Max B Gold
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:27 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:25 pm
It seems like a lot of you don’t have young children, don’t interact with young kids in any way shape or form.
The young of today do not see things the way some on this board do, they are totally against racists, against victimisation, bullying and so on. They will drive this world forwards in a positive way.
What’s that got to do with anything?
It means he interacts a lot with young kids. Whatever that means.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:41 pm
by Oiram
Very provocative to boo if people kneeling but would be difficult to prove they were racist. People shout and scream during Remembrance Sunday at large and small gatherings, for various reasons. People booed at Thatcher’s funeral. People may boo at football as they are just fed up with political statements and want them to get on with it. ‘Why are we waiting’ used to be another chant. I would never ‘boo’ kneeler, neither would I shout vile abuse at a Linesman. People should just grow up and respect everyone.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:07 pm
by tuffers#1
Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:41 pm
Very provocative to boo if people kneeling but would be difficult to prove they were racist. People shout and scream during Remembrance Sunday at large and small gatherings, for various reasons. People booed at Thatcher’s funeral. People may boo at football as they are just fed up with political statements and want them to get on with it. ‘Why are we waiting’ used to be another chant. I would never ‘boo’ kneeler, neither would I shout vile abuse at a Linesman. People should just grow up and respect everyone.
Difference is
LOFC a privately owned concern
Has stated anyone who boos players taking the knee will
Be banned .
No proof of racism/bigotry needed .
Just proof they booed
Bit like a Shop refusing entry to anyone they dont want to enter.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:06 am
by Oiram
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:07 pm
Oiram wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:41 pm
Very provocative to boo if people kneeling but would be difficult to prove they were racist. People shout and scream during Remembrance Sunday at large and small gatherings, for various reasons. People booed at Thatcher’s funeral. People may boo at football as they are just fed up with political statements and want them to get on with it. ‘Why are we waiting’ used to be another chant. I would never ‘boo’ kneeler, neither would I shout vile abuse at a Linesman. People should just grow up and respect everyone.
Difference is
LOFC a privately owned concern
Has stated anyone who boos players taking the knee will
Be banned .
No proof of racism/bigotry needed .
Just proof they booed
Bit like a Shop refusing entry to anyone they dont want to enter.
Yes, exactly. Which is why I will never do ‘booing’. Would never want to be anywhere associated with racism. Obey the ‘house rules’ and policies.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:39 am
by Beradogs
Exactly. I bet the same people on here calling boarders racist were quick enough to boo Thatcher. Ding dong the witch is dead I seem to remember.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:01 am
by Currywurst and Chips
Beradogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:39 am
Exactly. I bet the same people on here calling boarders racist were quick enough to boo Thatcher. Ding dong the witch is dead I seem to remember.
You clearly don't get how important this whole exercise is.
So here's something to stare at until all the racist is washed away
results may vary
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:38 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Beradogs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:39 am
Exactly. I bet the same people on here calling boarders racist were quick enough to boo Thatcher. Ding dong the witch is dead I seem to remember.
Clearly able to spot a c*nt then, ain’t they.
Re: Time for kneeling to stop?
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:45 am
by George M
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:32 pm
Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:27 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:25 pm
It seems like a lot of you don’t have young children, don’t interact with young kids in any way shape or form.
The young of today do not see things the way some on this board do, they are totally against racists, against victimisation, bullying and so on. They will drive this world forwards in a positive way.
What’s that got to do with anything?
It means he interacts a lot with young kids. Whatever that means.
It’s pretty clear. It follows my post. Racism is a subject spoken about by the older generation but no longer an issue amongst the young who have grown up happily in a multi racial society.
As with all news in the UK , it’s the sensationalism of the media to pick out a single story and turn it into a national issue.