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Starmer stood as leader on the majority of Corbyn's policies. The policies themselves weren't unpopular, it was the leadership and its ability to deliver those that were unpopular. So if we go on that basis and that Starmer is indeed popular, Starmer delivering those policies or similar to would be on paper a popular move;

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/ar ... why-arent-

Oiram wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:46 am

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:40 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:30 pm

If they resign the whip they should also leave parliament and by-elections held so that proper Labour MPs can be voted in to replace these disruptive Red Tories.

His policies have been rejected twice by the electorate. You can forget Starmer going down that route for sure.

Was it the policies? Or was it the man who was rejected?

Labour need Corbyn back as they need his help in winning back the northern seats that they lost to the Tories in the last election.

PutneyO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:49 pm I think Keir Starmer was worried that Corbyn and the Left would split and form a National Socialist Party

Oh deep joy, then got two mad parties fighting each other, I can't wait for it to happen, it's so laughable, as said on another thread, They ain't learnt a dam thing in all those election defeats, they keep moving left while the electorate stay firmly in the middle. Jeremy Corblimy be head of the NSP Just watch the infighting.

The last National Socialist Party was in Europe circa !930-1945. They went of the rails a bit. they didn't like anybody who disagreed with them either

In about 3 week's time when there are huge headlines about the vaccine being distributed there'll be a small paragraph somewhere about him being readmitted to the Parliamentary Labour Party

I see the bed wetting wet lettuce is keeping his options open to readmitting steptoe. Nothing surprises me anymore.

PutneyO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:27 pm Labour need Corbyn back as they need his help in winning back the northern seats that they lost to the Tories in the last election.

It was because of Corblimy that Labour lost the Northern seats in the first place.

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:51 am It was because of Corblimy that Labour lost the Northern seats in the first place.

I doubt that ...
It's much more likely that they were fooled into blaming the EU for their lives of misery because Farage and the Tories told them so.

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:01 pm I see the bed wetting wet lettuce is keeping his options open to readmitting steptoe. Nothing surprises me anymore.

Bed wetting?
Wet lettuce?

Care to tell us about your childhood afflictions in more detail?

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:24 am

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:51 am It was because of Corblimy that Labour lost the Northern seats in the first place.

I doubt that ...
It's much more likely that they were fooled into blaming the EU for their lives of misery because Farage and the Tories told them so.

What a load of old clap trap, No wonder Labour keep on loosing election after election, with people like you voting for them, I'm laughing so much gotta go and lye down in a dark room, oops sorry all ready in bed nighty night

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:43 am

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:24 am

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:51 am It was because of Corblimy that Labour lost the Northern seats in the first place.

I doubt that ...
It's much more likely that they were fooled into blaming the EU for their lives of misery because Farage and the Tories told them so.

What a load of old clap trap, No wonder Labour keep on loosing election after election, with people like you voting for them, I'm laughing so much gotta go and lye down in a dark room, oops sorry all ready in bed nighty night

Weird new alias posting anti-leftie nonsense at weird o’clock in the morning.

Hmmmm..... very ianteresting.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:31 am

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:43 am

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:24 am

I doubt that ...
It's much more likely that they were fooled into blaming the EU for their lives of misery because Farage and the Tories told them so.

What a load of old clap trap, No wonder Labour keep on loosing election after election, with people like you voting for them, I'm laughing so much gotta go and lye down in a dark room, oops sorry all ready in bed nighty night

Weird new alias posting anti-leftie nonsense at weird o’clock in the morning.

Hmmmm..... very ianteresting.

Yet another leftie that still doesn't understand why they keep loosing, interesting us the word you're looking for

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:51 am

PutneyO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:27 pm Labour need Corbyn back as they need his help in winning back the northern seats that they lost to the Tories in the last election.

It was because of Corblimy that Labour lost the Northern seats in the first place.

I have a lot of friends of the older generation who in the past always voted for the Labour party, including 10 who have moved back up North to be nearer their relatives as they get older. Few of them liked Corbyn, some even detested him. From conversations with them, those who still vote for the Labour party are more comfortable with having Starmer as the new Leader. On average, I think that more people prefer the middle ground of politics rather than the extremes of the left or right.

Gordon Brown demands Jeremy Corbyn makes ‘no ifs, no buts’ apology for Labour’s anti-Semitism crisis
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Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown has called on Jeremy Corbyn to make a full “no ifs, no buts” apology for the anti- Semitism crisis that ultimately saw him lose the whip as a Labour MP. Sir Keir Starmer announced on Wednesday that he not restore the whip to Jeremy Corbyn because he had “undermined and set back" work to restore trust in Labour’s ability to tackle anti-Semitism.
Mr Corbyn was reinstated as a member of the party on Tuesday, three weeks after he was suspended for his response to an Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) report. But Sir Keir said he would not allow his predecessor back into the parliamentary party, meaning he will continue to sit as an independent MP.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:31 am

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:43 am

E10EU wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:24 am

I doubt that ...
It's much more likely that they were fooled into blaming the EU for their lives of misery because Farage and the Tories told them so.

What a load of old clap trap, No wonder Labour keep on loosing election after election, with people like you voting for them, I'm laughing so much gotta go and lye down in a dark room, oops sorry all ready in bed nighty night

Weird new alias posting anti-leftie nonsense at weird o’clock in the morning.

Hmmmm..... very ianteresting.

VAR (Verifying Alias Recognition) ongoing on this one. Very much leaning towards this being our old racist chum, Taxio / Point 918. As soon as proven, he'll be slung off here again.

Britain has only ever had two successful Labour Prime Ministers: Clement Atlee & Harold Wilson. Both were in power at a time of great National difficulty. Both were to the left, but their intellect was vastly superior to Jezza's intellect (?) lol.. I remember reading Paris Match, just before Wilson was elected for his first term. The story was headlined " One of the richest men in UK ( Lord Home ) V One of the cleverest men in the UK.
One of Wilson's biggest problems were the Unions ( Rien ne change jamais . ) Barbara Castle came up with " In Place of Strife " to modernise the Unions, which were greatly unpopular with the General Public. This caused outrage with the Left of the Labour and was dropped. Paving the way for Maggie Thatcher a few years later. The rest is History. The Unions have been so weakened they are almost irrelevant. I remember the chant from Scargill's ( remember him? ) Minions , " The Workers United Will Never Be Defeated ! ) LOL Some people never learn from History.

Wikipedia is missing out here.

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:19 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:31 am

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:43 am

What a load of old clap trap, No wonder Labour keep on loosing election after election, with people like you voting for them, I'm laughing so much gotta go and lye down in a dark room, oops sorry all ready in bed nighty night

Weird new alias posting anti-leftie nonsense at weird o’clock in the morning.

Hmmmm..... very ianteresting.

VAR (Verifying Alias Recognition) ongoing on this one. Very much leaning towards this being our old racist chum, Taxio / Point 918. As soon as proven, he'll be slung off here again.

Going to do a Suarez and peek over your shoulder as you watch the screen.

Does taxio have a history of silly hours postings?

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:52 am

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:51 am

PutneyO wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:27 pm Labour need Corbyn back as they need his help in winning back the northern seats that they lost to the Tories in the last election.

It was because of Corblimy that Labour lost the Northern seats in the first place.

I have a lot of friends of the older generation who in the past always voted for the Labour party, including 10 who have moved back up North to be nearer their relatives as they get older. Few of them liked Corbyn, some even detested him. From conversations with them, those who still vote for the Labour party are more comfortable with having Starmer as the new Leader. On average, I think that more people prefer the middle ground of politics rather than the extremes of the left or right.

That's nice.

But it's not all about the oldies, their time is almost up.

It's about the young. And they love Jezza and what he stands for.

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:52 am

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:19 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:31 am

Weird new alias posting anti-leftie nonsense at weird o’clock in the morning.

Hmmmm..... very ianteresting.

VAR (Verifying Alias Recognition) ongoing on this one. Very much leaning towards this being our old racist chum, Taxio / Point 918. As soon as proven, he'll be slung off here again.

Going to do a Suarez and peek over your shoulder as you watch the screen.

Does taxio have a history of silly hours postings?

As long as you don't take a snap at my neck you can have a peek.

VAR RESULT:

1. Use of Corblimey instead of Corbyn. Check.
2. Late night / Early Morning Posting. Check.
3. Pro-Boris / Cap Doffing Posts. Check
4. IP / Host matches.

Alias Confirmed. Hello Taxio / .918.

Unless anyone can put forward a really compelling argument as to why I should allow someone who's been twice binned off for racist posts, I'll be chucking this latest alias on the virtual bonfire PDQ.

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:34 am

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:52 am

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:19 am

VAR (Verifying Alias Recognition) ongoing on this one. Very much leaning towards this being our old racist chum, Taxio / Point 918. As soon as proven, he'll be slung off here again.

Going to do a Suarez and peek over your shoulder as you watch the screen.

Does taxio have a history of silly hours postings?

As long as you don't take a snap at my neck you can have a peek.

VAR RESULT:

1. Use of Corblimey instead of Corbyn. Check.
2. Late night / Early Morning Posting. Check.
3. Pro-Boris / Cap Doffing Posts. Check
4. IP / Host matches.

Alias Confirmed. Hello Taxio / .918.

Unless anyone can put forward a really compelling argument as to why I should allow someone who's been twice binned off for racist posts, I'll be chucking this latest alias on the virtual bonfire PDQ.

Bonfire it is.

* claps hands and nods in agreement.

Whilst not disputing this latest character is the same as taxio, do we know who is behind the taxio character? Could it be possible that there's some sort of Inceptiony boarding going on here, like an alias within an alias?

StockholmO has been quiet since I embarrassed him.

Very i...etc

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:54 am * claps hands and nods in agreement.

Whilst not disputing this latest character is the same as taxio, do we know who is behind the taxio character? Could it be possible that there's some sort of Inceptiony boarding going on here, like an alias within an alias?

As in Taxio might not really be Taxio but instead could be someone else who's created Taxio to hide their identity? And then keeps coming back as variants of Taxio? Deep.

I mean, who could possibly go that far? Who could be that ianescapably twisted to do such a thing?

Ronnie Hotdogs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:55 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:52 am

J R Hartley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:51 am

It was because of Corblimy that Labour lost the Northern seats in the first place.

I have a lot of friends of the older generation who in the past always voted for the Labour party, including 10 who have moved back up North to be nearer their relatives as they get older. Few of them liked Corbyn, some even detested him. From conversations with them, those who still vote for the Labour party are more comfortable with having Starmer as the new Leader. On average, I think that more people prefer the middle ground of politics rather than the extremes of the left or right.

That's nice.

But it's not all about the oldies, their time is almost up.

It's about the young. And they love Jezza and what he stands for.

Jeremy is on his final bow now and will he even be standing for election next time round ?