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Yes, an absolute bowler hat.Chicken Dhansak wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:10 pmYou sound like a right Tilbury Dock.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:28 pm I never knew Jews were big in the timber trade, however it may explain the rhyming slang . Four by two ( 4x2) = Jew
Horrible. You are very grim. Really uncalled for. Just completely nasty and not even slightly comparable.OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 am Looks like this is the thread that will have some legs over the next few days. I suppose this is what happens if you elevate inadequate people to the positions of heroes (let that be a warning to you Mr Embleton)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/e ... spartanntp
Same reason as all the other ones have been left up?
Wasnt it a Jewish fella/scholar who helped save loads of life during the plagueComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:42 pm The only insect accepted as kosher in Judaism is locust.
22% of the Noble Prize winners has Jewish Ancestry
Judaism is one of the three Abrahamic religions. The other two are Christianity, and Islam.
There you go, three more facts
Should 100% come down. Was stupid in the extreme. Before this Ornchurch (a bastion of wokeness) posted up 'Muslims' to, y'know, do what he does. This is exactly the same thing and I can't believe COYOS thought it appropriate or sensible.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:58 am How is this thread being left up? If it was titled 'blacks' or 'asians', it'd be an immediate locking and ban. Poster knows full well that Jewishness is an ethnic term as well as a religious one.
Ok , PoliticOs, I'' ex[plain, why I put this up.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:08 pmShould 100% come down. Was stupid in the extreme. Before this Ornchurch (a bastion of wokeness) posted up 'Muslims' to, y'know, do what he does. This is exactly the same thing and I can't believe COYOS thought it appropriate or sensible.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:58 am How is this thread being left up? If it was titled 'blacks' or 'asians', it'd be an immediate locking and ban. Poster knows full well that Jewishness is an ethnic term as well as a religious one.
If a particular post offends you, please report it.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:58 am How is this thread being left up? If it was titled 'blacks' or 'asians', it'd be an immediate locking and ban. Poster knows full well that Jewishness is an ethnic term as well as a religious one.
How has hell broken loose? Has anyone been banned or warned? No.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:40 pmOk , PoliticOs, I'' ex[plain, why I put this up.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:08 pmShould 100% come down. Was stupid in the extreme. Before this Ornchurch (a bastion of wokeness) posted up 'Muslims' to, y'know, do what he does. This is exactly the same thing and I can't believe COYOS thought it appropriate or sensible.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:58 am How is this thread being left up? If it was titled 'blacks' or 'asians', it'd be an immediate locking and ban. Poster knows full well that Jewishness is an ethnic term as well as a religious one.
This thread was an experiment, to see if certain things, would happen....and they did, just as I thought.
I'll explain further.......I knew despite there being a Catholic, and Muslim
thread up, before I did this, as soon as anyone simply mentions "Jews", all hell breaks loose...and it did, just as i thought it would.
I genuinely want to know why things you can say about Catholics, and Muslims ( and probably any other religions), you cant say about Jews.
It just verified what i thought. I also genuinely didnt wish to hurt or offend anyones feelings, but wanted to confirm what i suspected would happen.
Can anyone tell me why you simply cannot say anything about Judaism at all, unless its complimentary, but you can say what you like about all other religions?
Just to finish.....apologies if anyone was offended, or insulted
The Catholic thread was naive, but I would hope was done rather out naivety than anything more sinister. The Muslim thread was done by someone who has political views I think you (and I actually) would disagree with. Some would call them ignorant. You did EXACTLY the same thread.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:40 pmOk , PoliticOs, I'' ex[plain, why I put this up.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:08 pmShould 100% come down. Was stupid in the extreme. Before this Ornchurch (a bastion of wokeness) posted up 'Muslims' to, y'know, do what he does. This is exactly the same thing and I can't believe COYOS thought it appropriate or sensible.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:58 am How is this thread being left up? If it was titled 'blacks' or 'asians', it'd be an immediate locking and ban. Poster knows full well that Jewishness is an ethnic term as well as a religious one.
This thread was an experiment, to see if certain things, would happen....and they did, just as I thought.
I'll explain further.......I knew despite there being a Catholic, and Muslim
thread up, before I did this, as soon as anyone simply mentions "Jews", all hell breaks loose...and it did, just as i thought it would.
I genuinely want to know why things you can say about Catholics, and Muslims ( and probably any other religions), you cant say about Jews.
It just verified what i thought. I also genuinely didnt wish to hurt or offend anyones feelings, but wanted to confirm what i suspected would happen.
Can anyone tell me why you simply cannot say anything about Judaism at all, unless its complimentary, but you can say what you like about all other religions?
Just to finish.....apologies if anyone was offended, or insulted
I , perhaps naively, still believe in the principle of free speech, and no one will take that from me .PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:53 pmThe Catholic thread was naive, but I would hope was done rather out naivety than anything more sinister. The Muslim thread was done by someone who has political views I think you (and I actually) would disagree with. Some would call them ignorant. You did EXACTLY the same thread.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:40 pmOk , PoliticOs, I'' ex[plain, why I put this up.
This thread was an experiment, to see if certain things, would happen....and they did, just as I thought.
I'll explain further.......I knew despite there being a Catholic, and Muslim
thread up, before I did this, as soon as anyone simply mentions "Jews", all hell breaks loose...and it did, just as i thought it would.
I genuinely want to know why things you can say about Catholics, and Muslims ( and probably any other religions), you cant say about Jews.
It just verified what i thought. I also genuinely didnt wish to hurt or offend anyones feelings, but wanted to confirm what i suspected would happen.
Can anyone tell me why you simply cannot say anything about Judaism at all, unless its complimentary, but you can say what you like about all other religions?
Just to finish.....apologies if anyone was offended, or insulted
Whenever Jews or Judaism is mentioned here you nearly always reply and ask why they can't be criticised, or why Israel can't be criticised. Always. It makes you look like a crank and it makes you look like you have a specific problem with Jews and Judaism. I have, not so long ago, warned you of this. You nearly always take the bait and you nearly always mention Jews and Judaism. It's very obvious and I couldn't find reason to defend you in that. If you think Muslims get an easy time then you're thick.
You're being a complete idiot and I find your constant 'why can't I criticise Judaism? thing as...'at best, not doing enough to prevent antisemitism, and at worst, could be seen to accept it'.
Please stop and please seriously think about this. You need to stop.
It was posted in response to Ornys amusing 'Muslim' thread.Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:19 pm Being Jewish is an ethnic identity as well as a religious one. I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp. There are secular Jews. Imagine replacing the thread title with any other ethnicity. Imagine randomly posting about the demographics of South Asians or Arabs.
Thats something ive never gotMistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:19 pm Being Jewish is an ethnic identity as well as a religious one. I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp. There are secular Jews.
Not finished it, but Simon Schamas Story of the Jews is pretty exhaustive and well written.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:32 pmThats something ive never gotMistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:19 pm Being Jewish is an ethnic identity as well as a religious one. I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp. There are secular Jews.
Being brought up was a catholic i had a
Small interest in Vatican city / Rome
Bethlehem & Jerusalem , but only a small interest .
I do know a little bit about jews being enslaved by some
Other group of people & then Moses leading the way to
The promised land .
Id like to read up on it ,
Where should i start without getting to religous a view but an historic one
Only if you can ta
I watched his tv series of the same name .Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:11 pmNot finished it, but Simon Schamas Story of the Jews is pretty exhaustive and well written.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:32 pmThats something ive never gotMistadobalina wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:19 pm Being Jewish is an ethnic identity as well as a religious one. I don't understand why that is so hard to grasp. There are secular Jews.
Being brought up was a catholic i had a
Small interest in Vatican city / Rome
Bethlehem & Jerusalem , but only a small interest .
I do know a little bit about jews being enslaved by some
Other group of people & then Moses leading the way to
The promised land .
Id like to read up on it ,
Where should i start without getting to religous a view but an historic one
Only if you can ta
A long-serving, very popular Jewish member of LOFC staff was recently fired to make way for Embleton's Dad. It's comparable.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:30 amHorrible. You are very grim. Really uncalled for. Just completely nasty and not even slightly comparable.OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 am Looks like this is the thread that will have some legs over the next few days. I suppose this is what happens if you elevate inadequate people to the positions of heroes (let that be a warning to you Mr Embleton)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/e ... spartanntp
Are you accusing the Club of Anti Semetism ?OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:00 pmA long-serving, very popular Jewish member of LOFC staff was recently fired to make way for Embleton's Dad. It's comparable.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:30 amHorrible. You are very grim. Really uncalled for. Just completely nasty and not even slightly comparable.OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 am Looks like this is the thread that will have some legs over the next few days. I suppose this is what happens if you elevate inadequate people to the positions of heroes (let that be a warning to you Mr Embleton)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/e ... spartanntp
You havent listed the bad points .Beradogs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:06 pm What I don’t understand is why people get so uppity when you assign character traits to ethnicity or different religions. Let’s take white brits as it’s the only thing that won’t get me banned. Lazy, sarcastic, borderline alcoholics, patriotic, animal lovers. They are not true of all brits but are true for a large number. It’s a fact. Why then, when you assign good and bad points about other races or religions does everyone have a meltdown.
What, who and when?OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:00 pmA long-serving, very popular Jewish member of LOFC staff was recently fired to make way for Embleton's Dad. It's comparable.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:30 amHorrible. You are very grim. Really uncalled for. Just completely nasty and not even slightly comparable.OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 am Looks like this is the thread that will have some legs over the next few days. I suppose this is what happens if you elevate inadequate people to the positions of heroes (let that be a warning to you Mr Embleton)
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/e ... spartanntp
Coyos I would defend you’re right to free speech to the end however, if I may offer some perspective as I see it. You do seem to go “all in” whenever Israel or Jews are mentioned and you do come across as negative towards the country or the people.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:07 pmI , perhaps naively, still believe in the principle of free speech, and no one will take that from me .PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:53 pmThe Catholic thread was naive, but I would hope was done rather out naivety than anything more sinister. The Muslim thread was done by someone who has political views I think you (and I actually) would disagree with. Some would call them ignorant. You did EXACTLY the same thread.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:40 pm
Ok , PoliticOs, I'' ex[plain, why I put this up.
This thread was an experiment, to see if certain things, would happen....and they did, just as I thought.
I'll explain further.......I knew despite there being a Catholic, and Muslim
thread up, before I did this, as soon as anyone simply mentions "Jews", all hell breaks loose...and it did, just as i thought it would.
I genuinely want to know why things you can say about Catholics, and Muslims ( and probably any other religions), you cant say about Jews.
It just verified what i thought. I also genuinely didnt wish to hurt or offend anyones feelings, but wanted to confirm what i suspected would happen.
Can anyone tell me why you simply cannot say anything about Judaism at all, unless its complimentary, but you can say what you like about all other religions?
Just to finish.....apologies if anyone was offended, or insulted
Whenever Jews or Judaism is mentioned here you nearly always reply and ask why they can't be criticised, or why Israel can't be criticised. Always. It makes you look like a crank and it makes you look like you have a specific problem with Jews and Judaism. I have, not so long ago, warned you of this. You nearly always take the bait and you nearly always mention Jews and Judaism. It's very obvious and I couldn't find reason to defend you in that. If you think Muslims get an easy time then you're thick.
You're being a complete idiot and I find your constant 'why can't I criticise Judaism? thing as...'at best, not doing enough to prevent antisemitism, and at worst, could be seen to accept it'.
Please stop and please seriously think about this. You need to stop.
How dare you try to limit what i can talk about......when that happens, we truly have arrived at fascism.
EVERYTHING, i mentioned above, were FACTS not opinions.
you need to be more tolerant, when you hold a different opinion to me , or when the FACTS dont suit your agenda