Re: Myles Judd
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:21 pm
Just to be clear, are we all judging that Judd isn't good enough on a handful of games in struggling teams or interrupted by injury, all before the age of 21?
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Absolutely . That's what should happen but it won't. We'll plod on with two RB's who are not good enough and a patched up central defence . Our midfield and strikers are good enough but our defence concerns me this season.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:13 pm Should be ruthless and get rid of Ling and Judd neither is good enough to hold down that position in a League Two team IMHO and remember we are supposed to be building a squad with players who can hold their own in League One, use their wages towards bringing in a more experienced right back and a loanee centre half who can play right back to balance out the squad.
Cool good to be clear.
Yes, but one is palpably weaker than the other and the second one doesn’t have daddy calling the shots.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:13 pm Should be ruthless and get rid of Ling and Judd neither is good enough to hold down that position in a League Two team IMHO and remember we are supposed to be building a squad with players who can hold their own in League One, use their wages towards bringing in a more experienced right back and a loanee centre half who can play right back to balance out the squad.
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:33 pmAbsolutely . That's what should happen but it won't. We'll plod on with two RB's who are not good enough and a patched up central defence . Our midfield and strikers are good enough but our defence concerns me this season.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:13 pm Should be ruthless and get rid of Ling and Judd neither is good enough to hold down that position in a League Two team IMHO and remember we are supposed to be building a squad with players who can hold their own in League One, use their wages towards bringing in a more experienced right back and a loanee centre half who can play right back to balance out the squad.
Yes all true and I think that Myles Judd is the the better of these two young fullbacks and is worthy of an extended run in the side. In comparison to Ling, Judd has more skill and energy especially when it comes to overlapping and supporting the attacking movements.Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:49 pmYes, but one is palpably weaker than the other and the second one doesn’t have daddy calling the shots.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:13 pm Should be ruthless and get rid of Ling and Judd neither is good enough to hold down that position in a League Two team IMHO and remember we are supposed to be building a squad with players who can hold their own in League One, use their wages towards bringing in a more experienced right back and a loanee centre half who can play right back to balance out the squad.
He's played over 60 games which is hardly a handful, I think that's enough for anyone to have an opinion. They certainly were not all in struggling teams he played some of those in our promotion season. The fact he is injury prone at such an early age does not bode well does it and maybe that's been part of the issue, Happe whio is only slightly older has hardly been out injured has he?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:21 pm Just to be clear, are we all judging that Judd isn't good enough on a handful of games in struggling teams or interrupted by injury, all before the age of 21?
All some good points.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:02 pmHe's played over 60 games which is hardly a handful, I think that's enough for anyone to have an opinion. They certainly were not all in struggling teams he played some of those in our promotion season. The fact he is injury prone at such an early age does not bode well does it and maybe that's been part of the issue, Happe whio is only slightly older has hardly been out injured has he?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:21 pm Just to be clear, are we all judging that Judd isn't good enough on a handful of games in struggling teams or interrupted by injury, all before the age of 21?
Which details were tenuous?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:47 pmCool good to be clear.
And yes. Although your details are tenuous.
The season after this one is when major reconstruction of our squad can take place with so many out of contract.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:13 pm Should be ruthless and get rid of Ling and Judd neither is good enough to hold down that position in a League Two team IMHO and remember we are supposed to be building a squad with players who can hold their own in League One, use their wages towards bringing in a more experienced right back and a loanee centre half who can play right back to balance out the squad.
Not his own team? He coached this team under JE. He had a full season bar a few games as the manager.
Admittedly wasn't as funny as your attempt to blame Gillingham's only clearcut chance on Ling but we moveRedO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:46 pmI doubt that, he's nowhere near that level.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:28 pm Heard Wolves want him as Matt Doherty's replacement
Hold up, are you doing funnies? LOL.
Because like Ling he isn't good enough for League Two.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:08 pmAll some good points.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:02 pmHe's played over 60 games which is hardly a handful, I think that's enough for anyone to have an opinion. They certainly were not all in struggling teams he played some of those in our promotion season. The fact he is injury prone at such an early age does not bode well does it and maybe that's been part of the issue, Happe whio is only slightly older has hardly been out injured has he?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:21 pm Just to be clear, are we all judging that Judd isn't good enough on a handful of games in struggling teams or interrupted by injury, all before the age of 21?
But point still stands that we are all writing off a kid who hasn't played a game for us above the age of 20. Seems to be the case.
Good to see you've written him offTop of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:58 pmBecause like Ling he isn't good enough for League Two.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:08 pmAll some good points.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:02 pm
He's played over 60 games which is hardly a handful, I think that's enough for anyone to have an opinion. They certainly were not all in struggling teams he played some of those in our promotion season. The fact he is injury prone at such an early age does not bode well does it and maybe that's been part of the issue, Happe whio is only slightly older has hardly been out injured has he?
But point still stands that we are all writing off a kid who hasn't played a game for us above the age of 20. Seems to be the case.
I think most people would say neither full back is good enough. I would imagine they will end up having careers in the national league and who knows maybe in a few years bounce back into the EFL like others have done. In all honesty there is nothing to chose between them They are both suspect defenders and not up to League Two. Judd had had 60 plus games over four seasonsApple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:59 pmGood to see you've written him offTop of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:58 pmBecause like Ling he isn't good enough for League Two.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:08 pm
All some good points.
But point still stands that we are all writing off a kid who hasn't played a game for us above the age of 20. Seems to be the case.
Because he hasn't played a league game above the age of 20. Has been injured a lot. Call me an optimist but i think that a really highly rated kid a couple of years ago deserves a bit more of a crack before being labelled a NL player, or any level actually.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:09 pmI think most people would say neither full back is good enough. I would imagine they will end up having careers in the national league and who knows maybe in a few years bounce back into the EFL like others have done. In all honesty there is nothing to chose between them They are both suspect defenders and not up to League Two. Judd had had 60 plus games over four seasonsApple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:59 pmGood to see you've written him offTop of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:58 pm
Because like Ling he isn't good enough for League Two.
Why would you keep him?
Let me help you get your facts right I believe Judd has played Nine league and Thee EFL Trophy games after his 20th Birthday on February 24th 2019 HTH.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:13 pmBecause he hasn't played a league game above the age of 20. Has been injured a lot. Call me an optimist but i think that a really highly rated kid a couple of years ago deserves a bit more of a crack before being labelled a NL player, or any level actually.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:09 pmI think most people would say neither full back is good enough. I would imagine they will end up having careers in the national league and who knows maybe in a few years bounce back into the EFL like others have done. In all honesty there is nothing to chose between them They are both suspect defenders and not up to League Two. Judd had had 60 plus games over four seasons
Why would you keep him?
I think cos he's been around a fair bit people think he's older or something but i find it strange that theres a very strong opinion of him already considering his lack of game time and age.
Personally I think he'll leave us (forced out) and end up being a good league two defender and maybe higher. but thats just me.
He hasn't played a game for us at the age of 21. HTH.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:28 pmLet me help you get your facts right I believe Judd has played Nine league and Thee EFL Trophy games after his 20th Birthday on February 24th 2019 HTH.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:13 pmBecause he hasn't played a league game above the age of 20. Has been injured a lot. Call me an optimist but i think that a really highly rated kid a couple of years ago deserves a bit more of a crack before being labelled a NL player, or any level actually.Top of the JES wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:09 pm
I think most people would say neither full back is good enough. I would imagine they will end up having careers in the national league and who knows maybe in a few years bounce back into the EFL like others have done. In all honesty there is nothing to chose between them They are both suspect defenders and not up to League Two. Judd had had 60 plus games over four seasons
Why would you keep him?
I think cos he's been around a fair bit people think he's older or something but i find it strange that theres a very strong opinion of him already considering his lack of game time and age.
Personally I think he'll leave us (forced out) and end up being a good league two defender and maybe higher. but thats just me.