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Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:47 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:18 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:10 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:54 am Danny webb Orient managerial record
Leyton Orient 29 January 2017 -
30 March 2017

P 12 W 2 D 1 L 9 average 16.7 .

If this is creditable,
I'm the King of England .
In isolation those figures are not good, but you have to look at the bigger picture and you know what was going on with Beelzebub at that time.

Webb galvanised the kids and had them playing OK only to be let down by the senior pros not wanting to play. When Webb got the senior guys onboard and willing to play he selected them and there was more than one occasion that he submitted the team to Beelzebub on a Friday after training (as all Orient managers were instructed to do) only for him to be told 90 minutes. Before the game that so and so wasn't to play today and it was always the senior players.

He was the only manager we had in that era with the balls to go into the boardroom and tell them what was needed. No one was ever going to win with Beelzebub but Webb tried and got the kids doing OK under the circumstances.
P 7 w 1 d 1 L 5 avg 14.3
Record was marginally beter than that of Omer Riza .

Hardly anything special to be honest.

Others on this forum have explained to you time and again that there were many factors behind Webbs Low win ratio at that time he was in charge, but as usual with yourself, you are just here to play the ''Devils Advocate'' in order to wind up and annoy others. This time you are wearing your Ling and Embleton hat, enough said.

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm**

Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:59 pm**

DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?

Pathetic

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:17 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:47 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:18 pm
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:10 pm

In isolation those figures are not good, but you have to look at the bigger picture and you know what was going on with Beelzebub at that time.

Webb galvanised the kids and had them playing OK only to be let down by the senior pros not wanting to play. When Webb got the senior guys onboard and willing to play he selected them and there was more than one occasion that he submitted the team to Beelzebub on a Friday after training (as all Orient managers were instructed to do) only for him to be told 90 minutes. Before the game that so and so wasn't to play today and it was always the senior players.

He was the only manager we had in that era with the balls to go into the boardroom and tell them what was needed. No one was ever going to win with Beelzebub but Webb tried and got the kids doing OK under the circumstances.
P 7 w 1 d 1 L 5 avg 14.3
Record was marginally beter than that of Omer Riza .

Hardly anything special to be honest.
Others on this forum have explained to you time and again that there were many factors behind Webbs Low win ratio at that time he was in charge, but as usual with yourself, you are just here to play the ''Devils Advocate'' in order to wind up and annoy others. This time you are wearing your Ling and Embleton hat, enough said.

Omer Riza faced the same situation
Possibly worse.
Didnt the staff have no pay during the time
Riza was in charge too ?

As i said DW was very moderately better
than Omer Riza on win percentage garnered
from more games played.

Just to finish Sid more wearing an Omer Riza hat

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:28 pm**

I did prefer Danny to Ross, as I preferred his managerial style. I also preferred John Sitton to Chris Turner - but i strongly suspect that Ross will have a better career in football (just like Turner) because he is a team person and not an overwhelming character like I'm sure Danny can be.

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm**

DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?

Really?

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:44 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:17 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:47 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:18 pm

P 7 w 1 d 1 L 5 avg 14.3
Record was marginally beter than that of Omer Riza .

Hardly anything special to be honest.
Others on this forum have explained to you time and again that there were many factors behind Webbs Low win ratio at that time he was in charge, but as usual with yourself, you are just here to play the ''Devils Advocate'' in order to wind up and annoy others. This time you are wearing your Ling and Embleton hat, enough said.
Omer Riza faced the same situation
Possibly worse.
Didnt the staff have no pay during the time
Riza was in charge too ?

As i said DW was very moderately better
than Omer Riza on win percentage garnered
from more games played.

Just to finish Sid more wearing an Omer Riza hat

And I wonder how long Ross Embleton would have survived as a Manager working for Bechetti ? No way would he have lasted anywhere as long as Omer Riza and Danny Webb did.

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:02 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:44 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:17 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:47 pm

Others on this forum have explained to you time and again that there were many factors behind Webbs Low win ratio at that time he was in charge, but as usual with yourself, you are just here to play the ''Devils Advocate'' in order to wind up and annoy others. This time you are wearing your Ling and Embleton hat, enough said.
Omer Riza faced the same situation
Possibly worse.
Didnt the staff have no pay during the time
Riza was in charge too ?

As i said DW was very moderately better
than Omer Riza on win percentage garnered
from more games played.

Just to finish Sid more wearing an Omer Riza hat

And I wonder how long Ross Embleton would have survived as a Manager working for Bechetti ? No way would he have lasted anywhere as long as Omer Riza and Danny Webb did.

Or JE Or Russell Slade.
Ahhh yeah what happened there again ?

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:01 pm**

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:02 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:44 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:17 pm

Omer Riza faced the same situation
Possibly worse.
Didnt the staff have no pay during the time
Riza was in charge too ?

As i said DW was very moderately better
than Omer Riza on win percentage garnered
from more games played.

Just to finish Sid more wearing an Omer Riza hat

And I wonder how long Ross Embleton would have survived as a Manager working for Bechetti ? No way would he have lasted anywhere as long as Omer Riza and Danny Webb did.
Or JE Or Russell Slade.
Ahhh yeah what happened there again ?

JE was an established manager and would never have even bothered to apply for a job at Leyton Orient at that time period, especially in the circumstances that Danny and Omer had to put up with. As to Russell, well he got out early and went onto a better and higher paid job.

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:21 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?
Really?

Nuneaton is probably preparing a post blaming the

of the Tory Government

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:24 pm**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?
Really?

Well they seem to get blamed for everything else on here

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:52 pm**

DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:24 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?
Really?
Well they seem to get blamed for everything else on here

No they don't, they get blamed when they are to blame. For example, when a lousy player is signed like Alabi.
Your sycophantic attitude does you no favours

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:07 pm**

Why are people still crying over this jack the lad? He's more likely to make an appearance on towie than as a manager of a FL club.

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:10 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:01 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:02 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:44 pm

And I wonder how long Ross Embleton would have survived as a Manager working for Bechetti ? No way would he have lasted anywhere as long as Omer Riza and Danny Webb did.
Or JE Or Russell Slade.
Ahhh yeah what happened there again ?
JE was an established manager and would never have even bothered to apply for a job at Leyton Orient at that time period, especially in the circumstances that Danny and Omer had to put up with. As to Russell, well he got out early and went onto a better and higher paid job.

And Ross was at Totenham & Norwich with there academies & then Swindon as 1st team coach.

So the relevance of Ross & the Italain are irrelevant .
All you have offered is an opinion that ross would not have lasted
Maybe maybe not , but as i said irrelevant with respect to that time.
Why you decided to mention Ross is only a reason you understand with
relation to the bealzebub era .

I just pointed out that danny Webb had a slightly better record than omer riza.

It was ML & JE who were happy with how Ross was JE's no 2 along with KT & NT

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:13 pm**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:07 pm Why are people still crying over this jack the lad? He's more likely to make an appearance on towie than as a manager of a FL club.

Danny Webb on TOWIE ?
What a good idea and a great career move for him, could well end up in Jason Statham tough guy movies ! !

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:15 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:52 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:24 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm

Really?
Well they seem to get blamed for everything else on here
No they don't, they get blamed when they are to blame. For example, when a lousy player is signed like Alabi.
Your sycophantic attitude does you no favours

Surprised you can spell such long words.

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:32 pm**

Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:09 am Did he not have a loud argument with Embleton at half-time when things were not going well? Ling supported the latter.

Was it as good as when that ignorant horrible
lunatic, Beelzebub, kicked Andy Hessenthaler up the jacksy?

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:49 pm**

Weird , you cannot type in the name of that clown from Italy ‘with all the money’ Whose name begins with Big who ruined the club without it translating into Beelzebub or is it meant to be like that? I am new here!!

Posted: **Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:25 pm**

Oiram wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 7:49 pm Weird , you cannot type in the name of that clown from Italy ‘with all the money’ Whose name begins with Big who ruined the club without it translating into Beelzebub or is it meant to be like that? I am new here!!

Think Harry Potter & he who shall not be named
Otherwise known as
Johnjo Shelvey

Posted: **Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:59 am**

DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:24 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?
Really?
Well they seem to get blamed for everything else on here

Do they? What sort of imagination you have.

Posted: **Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:00 am**

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:07 pm Why are people still crying over this jack the lad? He's more likely to make an appearance on towie than as a manager of a FL club.

Unfair and wrong.

Posted: **Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:00 am**

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:21 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:53 pm Its too hot today. Can I blame Ling and Embleton for that?
Really?
Nuneaton is probably preparing a post blaming the of the Tory Government

Eh?

Posted: **Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:49 am**

Ross is far more experienced than Webb. RE has worked at TH, Norwich, Bournemouth & Swindon . Webb will never manage an EFL club. He has no real playong pedigree & only worked at O's. Much prefer RE

Posted: **Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:06 am**

Disoriented wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:59 am
DuvB wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:24 pm
Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 1:32 pm

Really?
Well they seem to get blamed for everything else on here
Do they? What sort of imagination you have.

QED

Posted: **Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:52 am**

aylesburyos wrote: ↑Sat Aug 08, 2020 8:49 am Ross is far more experienced than Webb. RE has worked at TH, Norwich, Bournemouth & Swindon . Webb will never manage an EFL club. He has no real playong pedigree & only worked at O's. Much prefer RE

Danny Webb usually played as a defender. He playing experience came from playing 306 games for League and non league clubs, including teams such as Southend Utd, Hull, Brighton, Cambridge Utd, Yeovil Town etc.
The only record I can find of Ross Embletons experiences of playing football is 4 games for Bedford during the 2016 season.

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