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Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:36 pm
by Thor
So sad, a man doing his job ended up losing is life in the most terrible of ways and died an horrific death. I really feel for the family.

They knew what they were doing, they were laughing in the court at what was being described, totally disgusting people. Hopefully a long custodial sentence will be passed as society can do well without these sorts of people terrorising it or even walking around in it.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 4:25 pm
by Clive Evans
I hope they have to share a cell with a big beefy bruiser, who has a penchant for pretty boys of Irish descent.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:13 pm
by Stowaway
And most of the responses on here are just reinforcing why we have an independent judiciary.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:18 pm
by Ornchurch
Stowaway wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:13 pm And most of the responses on here are just reinforcing why we have an independent judiciary.
Aww diddums. Drag them behind a car so they see how it feels and see if they smirk then.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:48 pm
by greyhound
Ornchurch wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:18 pm
Stowaway wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:13 pm And most of the responses on here are just reinforcing why we have an independent judiciary.
Aww diddums. Drag them behind a car so they see how it feels and see if they smirk then.
naked.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:54 pm
by Wally Banter
Mmm, the gammonest of the gammon, this thread.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:09 pm
by Stowaway
greyhound wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 5:48 pm
West Side Story wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:22 pm These boys set out, as the Prosecution stated, to steal a quad bike by any means. These lads had a large axe, three crowbars and a hammer. These are not the tools to steal a bike that is secure. These are tools used to threaten or harm anyone intent on stopping them. I have no doubt they intended to use them if necessary. A blind man on a white horse would have realised they were dragging the PC behind their car. They didn't care. Just look at them leaving the Court after the initial hearing. THEY DON'T CARE. They are brought up to despise ordinary people. They know we are soft on them and they love it. They don't abide by our laws, but use the laws to get away with murder. I have had quite a bit of experience dealing with them and it ain't nice. My foster-daughter used to work at Dagenham Bowls, they came in at week-ends to cause trouble. I worked part-time at Lakeside McDonalds. Their parents bring the kids in and show them how to get food for nothing. They are deliberately rude and provocative. There is a site not too far from me accessed by a single track road. Most of them do roofing. A job that is very difficult to check on their workmanship. They use Race Relation Laws to their advantage. Claiming that we are Racist. They are Irish not Romany. The Irish take a much harder line with them. Time we did too.
perhaps stowaway should read this exactly my point.
You made your initial post without even knowing that they were travellers - I bought that up, to see what your reaction would be, and it’s been exactly what I was expecting.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:35 pm
by Long slender neck
If it was the other way around and a copper had dragged a gypsy to his death you'd be marching through the streets.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:54 pm
by PoliticOs
Well, yeah. But if a teacher was a paedophile it would be more noteworthy than a non-teacher as their job is to keep kids safe specifically. You know this you silly goose.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:55 pm
by Dohnut
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:35 pm If it was the other way around and a copper had dragged a gypsy to his death you'd be marching through the streets.
The other way round.

It would make front page news around the world. More protests and defund the police marches. The only protests that will come from this will be from people moaning if these thugs get life.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:59 pm
by PoliticOs
Really don't understand the BLM marches or movement at all do you, Doh? Bless you.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:01 pm
by PoliticOs
Actually, no. Let's give you the benefit of the doubt. Without ambiguous waffle or moving to other questions; do you really believe people are more angry about the prospect of these guys getting life than they are the tragic manslaughter of this police officer?

Do you really, truly, honestly believe that?

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:24 pm
by kokomO
Dohnut wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:55 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:35 pm If it was the other way around and a copper had dragged a gypsy to his death you'd be marching through the streets.
The other way round.

It would make front page news around the world. More protests and defund the police marches. The only protests that will come from this will be from people moaning if these thugs get life.
Do you actually believe that people in this country will moan if they don't get life, do you honestly think that? :roll:

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:44 pm
by spen666
Lots of words typed on here about the police and the killers.

How many of you are prepared to do anything to help?

Every year, I take part in the UK Police Unity Tour which is a 3 day bike ride https://ukpoliceunitytour.org/

This raises funds for the Charity "Care of Police Survivors" http://www.ukcops.org/ This charity do sterling work supporting families of officers killed in the line of duty.

Ironically this year's ride should have been this weekend, but is now delayed to the end of October.

How about backing up your words by donating to the Charity? https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/peterbennett2020


I'm guessing very few of you will back up your words with a donation to this charity. Words are easy for people to type. Let's see you back it up with real support for the charity

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:52 pm
by Wally Banter
Attempting to shame people into donating; good luck with that.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:54 pm
by Long slender neck
Won't his wife get a pension or something anyway?

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:11 pm
by spen666
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:54 pm Won't his wife get a pension or something anyway?
So give her a pension & all is miraculously ok?


Yep that solves all problems.


Sadly the attitude I exoected

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:21 pm
by kokomO
They should be properly protected and funded by the government, shouldn’t have to rely on charity. It’s like the nurses and nhs relying on charity (captn Tom etc.) during the worst pandemic to hit this country in living memory.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:21 pm
by Disoriented
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:35 pm If it was the other way around and a copper had dragged a gypsy to his death you'd be marching through the streets.
‘Gypsy’ is a politically incorrect term and also considered racist.

Please refrain from using such offensive epithets.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:54 pm
by Long slender neck
spen666 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:11 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:54 pm Won't his wife get a pension or something anyway?
So give her a pension & all is miraculously ok?


Yep that solves all problems.


Sadly the attitude I exoected
Aren't you the guy in court defending the people slaying the cops?

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:17 am
by Ornchurch
Disoriented wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:21 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:35 pm If it was the other way around and a copper had dragged a gypsy to his death you'd be marching through the streets.
‘Gypsy’ is a politically incorrect term and also considered racist.

Please refrain from using such offensive epithets.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:33 am
by Adz
I'd like to see a change in the law that if you're committing a crime and someone dies you are liable for murder

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:03 am
by Oiram
Ornchurch wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:59 pm And some people wonder why people have lost respect for the Police.

Should have been life. These 3 are wrong uns and will degenerate further. Their associates looked to intimidate the jury so that says a lot about them.

The Police have got to be given powers to actually do their job and police. They have got to be stronger and have to be protected against these sort of attacks. Kid gloves leads to having the p*ss taken out of them.
Nothing to with the police the prosecution. You do not know what you are talking about.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:37 am
by Dohnut
Oiram wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:03 am
Ornchurch wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:59 pm And some people wonder why people have lost respect for the Police.

Should have been life. These 3 are wrong uns and will degenerate further. Their associates looked to intimidate the jury so that says a lot about them.

The Police have got to be given powers to actually do their job and police. They have got to be stronger and have to be protected against these sort of attacks. Kid gloves leads to having the p*ss taken out of them.
Nothing to with the police the prosecution. You do not know what you are talking about.
I dare say the term Police is being used as a generic term for the whole justice system. It is not uncommon. Same way as we talk about Orient as a generic term for players, coaches, management, office staff etc.

Re: pc Harper injustice

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:05 am
by Ornchurch
Oiram wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:03 am
Ornchurch wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:59 pm And some people wonder why people have lost respect for the Police.

Should have been life. These 3 are wrong uns and will degenerate further. Their associates looked to intimidate the jury so that says a lot about them.

The Police have got to be given powers to actually do their job and police. They have got to be stronger and have to be protected against these sort of attacks. Kid gloves leads to having the p*ss taken out of them.
Nothing to with the police the prosecution. You do not know what you are talking about.
I didn't say that the police had anything to do with the prosecution.

What I was trying to say is that if a police officers life means so little then it is no wonder that the likes of these 3 pikeys do what they did and laugh about it.

The police need to be allowed to do their job without fear of being killed and anyone found to have killed an on duty officer under any circumstances should get a mandatory life sentence.

In the last 30 years or so the police force has been diluted so much that they are now no more than figures of fun to certain members of the public. That has got to be reversed.