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StillSpike wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:01 pm Fashion seems to dictate that it HAS to be a French Bulldog, or a Staffy, or some other particular breed. I know some pals here and she's got her heart set on a French Bulldog - it's going to cost the best part of £600 - they don't have a pot to p*ss in, but can't conceive of just getting a rescue dog that'll love them and that they'll be able to give a great life to. Such a shame.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:57 pm The dog I have at the moment is rescued from Romania. There is a big street dog problem over there so they scoop them up and put them in kill centres where the spend months if not years before being killed. The conditions are horrendous. Some wonderful people take them out although how they pick the one or two that will be rescued knowing the rest will be on the way to being put down I have no idea. They are stronger than I could ever be. Anyway, her name is Glenda and she is an absolute joy. I think the total cost was about 100 quid and whatever else you want to donate. They do this all for nothing and in their spare time. The drivers from Romania to here are friends and family. Yes, there are plenty of dogs in the uk that need homes too.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:26 am Rescue dogs are a great idea and something of a more modern approach. I’m too old to be getting a new dog once my lab Goes but if I did I would get a rescue dog.

But 10 years ago the most important thing was a dog with a clean bill of health, the right jabs etc and a dog with a reputation for having a good temperament around children and other animals. Labradors fit the bill perfectly, our current Lab is our third one. Fantastic dogs. £400. Worth every penny and more besides. Over their lifetime that equates to 50p a week to buy.

Lovejoy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:36 pm We had a white(ish) German Shepherd which we bought in 1989 for £400+vat and he was the most lovely natured dog. I have looked up the prices today and I am gobsmacked that today he would cost £2-2500.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:55 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:26 am Rescue dogs are a great idea and something of a more modern approach. I’m too old to be getting a new dog once my lab Goes but if I did I would get a rescue dog.

But 10 years ago the most important thing was a dog with a clean bill of health, the right jabs etc and a dog with a reputation for having a good temperament around children and other animals. Labradors fit the bill perfectly, our current Lab is our third one. Fantastic dogs. £400. Worth every penny and more besides. Over their lifetime that equates to 50p a week to buy.

Bollocks.

We got ours from Battersea 30 years ago. Rescue dogs is not a modern thing at all.

Why couldn’t you get a rescue 10 years ago but you would now?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:55 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:26 am Rescue dogs are a great idea and something of a more modern approach. I’m too old to be getting a new dog once my lab Goes but if I did I would get a rescue dog.

But 10 years ago the most important thing was a dog with a clean bill of health, the right jabs etc and a dog with a reputation for having a good temperament around children and other animals. Labradors fit the bill perfectly, our current Lab is our third one. Fantastic dogs. £400. Worth every penny and more besides. Over their lifetime that equates to 50p a week to buy.

Bollocks.

We got ours from Battersea 30 years ago. Rescue dogs is not a modern thing at all.

Why couldn’t you get a rescue 10 years ago but you would now?

Of course Battersea dogs home has been around for years but the fashion, for want of a better word is more recent. I have a friend who has a Spanish rescue dog. Never heard of that even a few years ago. I’m not talking about the existence of such things, more the trend, accelerated by TV celebs and shows increasing popularity.

The reason why I would now but not them is simple. 10 years ago I had young grandchildren and wanted to be as sure as I could the dog was more likely to be child safe. Labs have a great reputation and our experience shows just how good and patient they are. It’s hard to know for sure how a rescue dog would react. A simple, sensible precaution.

Now the kids are grown up this is no longer an issue.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:55 pm

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:26 am Rescue dogs are a great idea and something of a more modern approach. I’m too old to be getting a new dog once my lab Goes but if I did I would get a rescue dog.

But 10 years ago the most important thing was a dog with a clean bill of health, the right jabs etc and a dog with a reputation for having a good temperament around children and other animals. Labradors fit the bill perfectly, our current Lab is our third one. Fantastic dogs. £400. Worth every penny and more besides. Over their lifetime that equates to 50p a week to buy.

Bollocks.

We got ours from Battersea 30 years ago. Rescue dogs is not a modern thing at all.

Why couldn’t you get a rescue 10 years ago but you would now?

Of course Battersea dogs home has been around for years but the fashion, for want of a better word is more recent. I have a friend who has a Spanish rescue dog. Never heard of that even a few years ago. I’m not talking about the existence of such things, more the trend, accelerated by TV celebs and shows increasing popularity.

The reason why I would now but not them is simple. 10 years ago I had young grandchildren and wanted to be as sure as I could the dog was more likely to be child safe. Labs have a great reputation and our experience shows just how good and patient they are. It’s hard to know for sure how a rescue dog would react. A simple, sensible precaution.

Now the kids are grown up this is no longer an issue.

HeyO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:55 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:55 pm

Bollocks.

We got ours from Battersea 30 years ago. Rescue dogs is not a modern thing at all.

Why couldn’t you get a rescue 10 years ago but you would now?

Of course Battersea dogs home has been around for years but the fashion, for want of a better word is more recent. I have a friend who has a Spanish rescue dog. Never heard of that even a few years ago. I’m not talking about the existence of such things, more the trend, accelerated by TV celebs and shows increasing popularity.

The reason why I would now but not them is simple. 10 years ago I had young grandchildren and wanted to be as sure as I could the dog was more likely to be child safe. Labs have a great reputation and our experience shows just how good and patient they are. It’s hard to know for sure how a rescue dog would react. A simple, sensible precaution.

Now the kids are grown up this is no longer an issue.

Fashion is recent?

Thor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:23 pm redo, you can't just take on a rescue dog. After my previous boxer died of cancer in 2007 I wanted to rescue one as many people don't understand Boxers as they are 100% go all the time and can be destructive if not stimulated or left alone for long periods which most people do do. However, as my son was a baby in arms and my daughter maybe 2/3 they said no cos they can't guarantee its background and the children would have to be like 10 plus in age. So I do get where Doh is coming from.

West Side Story wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:55 pm Even by the 1960's only small animals and birds were on sale at Club Row. I think even then it was illegal to sell dogs in a street market. But you would get a man at the end of the road with a pup, claiming his Missus wouldn't let him keep it. As soon as it was sold, he was back with another pup. They usually died in a couple of weeks with distemper. I think that was why the practise was disallowed.
The French Bulldogs you see on line usually come from Eastern Europe. Some of the much sought after colours are not recognised by the Club breed and would not be allowed for showing under Kennel Club rules. The Kennel Club is a weak organisation and turns a blind eye to a lot of practises. The Clubs for specific breeds are often much better. The BGV Club for my breed, tell breeders to block Registation for pups unless they are selected breeders. That way a tight grip is kept on what is being bred. My breed is free of all inherited conditions.
It is worth remembering that most dogs are quite pugilistic and need training and socialisation from an early age. Many so-called rescue dogs are sadly lacking in this respect and can be an embarrassment for the new owners, when they eat their neighbour's dog.

Beradogs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:57 pm The dog I have at the moment is rescued from Romania. There is a big street dog problem over there so they scoop them up and put them in kill centres where the spend months if not years before being killed. The conditions are horrendous. Some wonderful people take them out although how they pick the one or two that will be rescued knowing the rest will be on the way to being put down I have no idea. They are stronger than I could ever be. Anyway, her name is Glenda and she is an absolute joy. I think the total cost was about 100 quid and whatever else you want to donate. They do this all for nothing and in their spare time. The drivers from Romania to here are friends and family. Yes, there are plenty of dogs in the uk that need homes too.

RedO wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:44 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:07 am

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:55 pm

Bollocks.

We got ours from Battersea 30 years ago. Rescue dogs is not a modern thing at all.

Why couldn’t you get a rescue 10 years ago but you would now?

Of course Battersea dogs home has been around for years but the fashion, for want of a better word is more recent. I have a friend who has a Spanish rescue dog. Never heard of that even a few years ago. I’m not talking about the existence of such things, more the trend, accelerated by TV celebs and shows increasing popularity.

The reason why I would now but not them is simple. 10 years ago I had young grandchildren and wanted to be as sure as I could the dog was more likely to be child safe. Labs have a great reputation and our experience shows just how good and patient they are. It’s hard to know for sure how a rescue dog would react. A simple, sensible precaution.

Now the kids are grown up this is no longer an issue.

Rescuing dogs is a fashion/trend? Mate, not all rescue dogs are snarling, savage Staffies with a thirst for children's blood. I understand why people go to these greedy breeders - it's the easy way, you get to choose the nice new shiny puppy, you even get to choose when it arrives. Convenience.

But dog ownership shouldn't be about convenience. That's why so many people who go into it with your sort of attitude end up farming them off to rescue centres.