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PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:48 am It's interesting that most people feel politicians (who say they do the job do so to help people) aren't trusted by much of the population as people think they do it because of their ego or power pursuit, but people can't see that this might be a thing for some police officers?

I know 4 personally. 2, I believe, do it because they feel that is the way they can help people they are most interested in, 1 did it because his old man was and it was the only way to make him happy and 1 was one of our school bullies that realised he was pretty big and intimidating so could use this 'for good' too.

Don’t think anyone has disputed that some people may join the police on a power trip.

Thanks for giving an example that shows people join the police for all different reasons. That should wrap up this debate

I know one policeman well. He ended up in flying squad. Good bloke. He has evolved with the times. Was a bit of a racist at 20 and when he first started on the beat, now in our what’s up group you critique BLM he will back them up. Doesn’t like racist gags etc so always having a pop (at me). Interesting that after all these years (48) on the force he has mellowed so much. It’s a different world now.

This is gold

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:46 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:09 pm Apparently, the pictures were selfie type photos, with the two dead women. Its sickening, and these two cops MUST be sacked

But arent there people who keep saying the Police are the good guys ?

Let me guess, it'll be bad apples.

Are you the type to judge every officer because of a few idiots?

Dohnut wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:39 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:46 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:09 pm Apparently, the pictures were selfie type photos, with the two dead women. Its sickening, and these two cops MUST be sacked

But arent there people who keep saying the Police are the good guys ?

Let me guess, it'll be bad apples.

Are you the type to judge every officer because of a few idiots?

If it was a few idiots then fine.

This isnt just about the foot soldiers, this is about the
generals & the politicians as well.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 10:49 am Wumble's on a wind up.

He'll happily call out any prejudicial comments against BAME whist trotting out the same prejudices against plod.

Bitter, twisted plonker.

Police are generally considered as corrupt, over aggressive and stupid. And the military are just stupid. This isn't an out there opinion

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:53 pm Police are generally considered as corrupt, over aggressive and stupid. And the military are just stupid. This isn't an out there opinion

Remember what happened a couple of weeks ago, you got confused, had a bit of a meltdown, had to apologise and decided to take some time off.

I fear you're going the same way again. You should consider a self-imposed break for the sake of your mental health. Seriously.

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:08 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:53 pm Police are generally considered as corrupt, over aggressive and stupid. And the military are just stupid. This isn't an out there opinion

Remember what happened a couple of weeks ago, you got confused, had a bit of a meltdown, had to apologise and decided to take some time off.

I fear you're going the same way again. You should consider a self-imposed break for the sake of your mental health. Seriously.

Tired of dishing out truth and upsetting racists, correct.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p ... -the-ranks


BBC documentary

Racism in the ranks

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:43 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p ... -the-ranks


BBC documentary

Racism in the ranks

A thread to rile up the gammons on this message board....

Like poking a wasps nest with a stick...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53198702


"Speaking to the BBC, Mrs Smallman, the former Archdeacon of Southend, said the pictures "dehumanised" her children.

"They were nothing to them and what's worse, they sent them on to members of the public," she said.


"This has taken our grief to another place," she said.

"If ever we needed an example of how toxic it has become, those police officers felt so safe, so untouchable, that they felt they could take photographs of dead black girls and send them on.

"It speaks volumes of the ethos that runs through the Metropolitan Police."

She says the police were "making assumptions" when they didn't immediately respond when the sisters were first reported missing.

"I knew instantly why they didn't care. They didn't care because they looked at my daughter's address and thought they knew who she was.

"A black woman who lives on a council estate."


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Yet there are those that claim we should be Thankful for the Police .

They dare to compare the brave soul in Glasgow with this utter SCUM .

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:17 pm

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:08 pm

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:53 pm Police are generally considered as corrupt, over aggressive and stupid. And the military are just stupid. This isn't an out there opinion

Remember what happened a couple of weeks ago, you got confused, had a bit of a meltdown, had to apologise and decided to take some time off.

I fear you're going the same way again. You should consider a self-imposed break for the sake of your mental health. Seriously.

Tired of dishing out truth and upsetting racists, correct.

What has your extreme attitude towards the police and military got to do with racism?

I have to agree with FaldO for probably the first time. You are imploding badly here.

Take a break fella.

There’s a correlation between those losing their rag at any criticism of the police and those who showed their true colours a few weeks ago.

Thanks for the advice.

Now I know why PAMs on the windup so much - too easy

Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:08 pm There’s a correlation between those losing their rag at any criticism of the police and those who showed their true colours a few weeks ago.

Thanks for the advice.

Calling the police 'mostly wronguns, weirdos and stupid with mental problems' isn't criticism.

Personally I like to see a little law and order.

Same. If only it was fair and dished out by people who weren’t on ego and power trips.

PC David White in a critical condition. One of Six people stabbed in the Glasgow incident. Of police attending, one comment made was once again Police run into danger to protect citizens.

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:34 am PC David White in a critical condition. One of Six people stabbed in the Glasgow incident. Of police attending, one comment made was once again Police run into danger to protect citizens.

Sad news indeed.

HeyO wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:04 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:34 am PC David White in a critical condition. One of Six people stabbed in the Glasgow incident. Of police attending, one comment made was once again Police run into danger to protect citizens.

Sad news indeed.

Truly a hero

HeyO wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:04 am

Dohnut wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:34 am PC David White in a critical condition. One of Six people stabbed in the Glasgow incident. Of police attending, one comment made was once again Police run into danger to protect citizens.

Sad news indeed.

As was the case, now in court, of the young officer dragged by a car for a mile, who died of horrific injuries. A young man who went to work on behalf of us and never went home.

The Police, like all organisations, will have its share of racist arseholes. But to tar them all with the same brush is gross stupidity at a level I find difficult to put into words. Spoken by people who, when in difficulties, would be quick to call for help.

The two officers taking and sharing selfies should be sacked. Prosecuted if they have broken the law. But can we imagine the horror scenes some offices see as part of their job and I have little doubt most treat the victims with respect.

It’s a sh*t job for sh*t pay - what sort of people do you think you’re going to attract?

Of the few coppers I know - some very well - you really wouldn’t choose them to be police officers, if you had a say in the matter.

My Next door neighbours Daughter Just recently
Gave up her training to join the Met .
A couple of weeks before passing out ceremony.
Of the 50 that were in her start class 6
have stayed the course .

She felt some of her Friendships were to much to give up.

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:13 am It’s a sh*t job for sh*t pay - what sort of people do you think you’re going to attract?

The front it takes for an accountant to say this

Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:24 am

RedO wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:13 am It’s a sh*t job for sh*t pay - what sort of people do you think you’re going to attract?

The front it takes for an accountant to say this

Tax dodgers, accountants.