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Disoriented is left wing?

EliotNes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 5:17 pm Nigel Farage - sorry I'm yawning. One of the biggest self-publicists around.

Yeah, and he's dam good at it, more power to his elbow.

I think he's a centrist, by his own admission, is he not? Maybe left leaning.

What were you left wing on and what changed for you? (Without wishing to pre-judge your answer, please don't say 'age' or 'growing up', I mean specifics of how that occurred)

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:19 am I think he's a centrist, by his own admission, is he not? Maybe left leaning.

What were you left wing on and what changed for you? (Without wishing to pre-judge your answer, please don't say 'age' or 'growing up', I mean specifics of how that occurred)

Very union oriented in working life and upbringing, finally saw the light when Labour opened the doors to anyone to come here hoping that they would in return vote for them, wanting to change our culture to their way of thinking, in so doing change our society to what they want, I don't recall labour asking us if we wanted anything like that. Also The Common Market, that I voted for but In reality is the biggest con ever. Nigel Farrage gave me hope we could reverse the cancer which is the EU. So many other things but enough for now.

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:31 am

PoliticOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:19 am I think he's a centrist, by his own admission, is he not? Maybe left leaning.

What were you left wing on and what changed for you? (Without wishing to pre-judge your answer, please don't say 'age' or 'growing up', I mean specifics of how that occurred)

Very union oriented in working life and upbringing, finally saw the light when Labour opened the doors to anyone to come here hoping that they would in return vote for them, wanting to change our culture to their way of thinking, in so doing change our society to what they want, I don't recall labour asking us if we wanted anything like that.

Oh really?

• In the 13 years that Labour were in office, between 1997 and 2010, net migration to the UK by non-Britons totalled three million.

• Since the Conservatives took office in 2010, net migration to the UK by non-Britons has totalled 2.7 million.

Did the Tories ask you then?

Your words, representative of oh so many brainwashed racist automatons, clearly have the depth of a grain of sand.

Admin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:42 pm Disoriented is left wing?

Eh?

Yeah, in the ‘make us electable’ faction.

Wouldnt surprise me if he gets a job on the right wing Talk Radio, which is owned by Murdoch, where he will once again be able to spout his toxic agenda

I believe he should be toppled and thrown into the Thames.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:11 am I believe he should be toppled and thrown into the Thames.

No, the Black Sea.

The English Channel would be favourite.

I'd love to see him fished out on a hook; and dragged back to shore, shivering in an overcrowded dinghy.

He might then realise how other poor sods have to risk their lives, in an effort to actually survive.

This thread is one massive socio-political circle jerk

Who’s gonna blow their load first? My money is on Nuneatonos

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:06 am Wouldnt surprise me if he gets a job on the right wing Talk Radio, which is owned by Murdoch, where he will once again be able to spout his toxic agenda

Talk Sport is going the other way now. All of the new presenters are either black or women.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:31 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:06 am Wouldnt surprise me if he gets a job on the right wing Talk Radio, which is owned by Murdoch, where he will once again be able to spout his toxic agenda

Talk Sport is going the other way now. All of the new presenters are either black or women.

I must say I haven't noticed that myself.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:31 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:06 am Wouldnt surprise me if he gets a job on the right wing Talk Radio, which is owned by Murdoch, where he will once again be able to spout his toxic agenda

Talk Sport is going the other way now. All of the new presenters are either black or women.

If they were the best applicants for the job, then what's the problem?

Why's it 'going the other way' - what do you mean by that exactly?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:43 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:31 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:06 am Wouldnt surprise me if he gets a job on the right wing Talk Radio, which is owned by Murdoch, where he will once again be able to spout his toxic agenda

Talk Sport is going the other way now. All of the new presenters are either black or women.

If they were the best applicants for the job, then what's the problem?

Why's it 'going the other way' - what do you mean by that exactly?

The black presenters are hardly 'right wing' are they?
Although I'm pretty sure that most of the existing presenters weren't either. Can't say for sure though obviously.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:35 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:31 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:06 am Wouldnt surprise me if he gets a job on the right wing Talk Radio, which is owned by Murdoch, where he will once again be able to spout his toxic agenda

Talk Sport is going the other way now. All of the new presenters are either black or women.

I must say I haven't noticed that myself.

Depends when you listen to it I suppose.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:50 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:35 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:31 pm

Talk Sport is going the other way now. All of the new presenters are either black or women.

I must say I haven't noticed that myself.

Depends when you listen to it I suppose.

I'm proud to say I've never listened to it.

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:49 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:43 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:31 pm
Talk Sport is going the other way now. All of the new presenters are either black or women.

If they were the best applicants for the job, then what's the problem?

Why's it 'going the other way' - what do you mean by that exactly?

The black presenters are hardly 'right wing' are they?
Although I'm pretty sure that most of the existing presenters weren't either. Can't say for sure though obviously.

So now you are saying that no black presenters are right wing - any proof of that?

If you "can't say for sure obviously", then why bother saying it in the first place?

FFS!

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:02 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:49 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:43 pm
If they were the best applicants for the job, then what's the problem?

Why's it 'going the other way' - what do you mean by that exactly?

The black presenters are hardly 'right wing' are they?
Although I'm pretty sure that most of the existing presenters weren't either. Can't say for sure though obviously.

So now you are saying that no black presenters are right wing - any proof of that?

If you "can't say for sure obviously", then why bother saying it in the first place?

FFS!

The only proof that I have comes from listening to the views of all the presenters on the BLM protests over the last couple of weeks.

Of course they could just be lying or following the party line which is why I said that I can't be sure.

FFS!

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:13 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:02 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 12:49 pm

The black presenters are hardly 'right wing' are they?
Although I'm pretty sure that most of the existing presenters weren't either. Can't say for sure though obviously.

So now you are saying that no black presenters are right wing - any proof of that?

If you "can't say for sure obviously", then why bother saying it in the first place?

FFS!

The only proof that I have comes from listening to the views of all the presenters on the BLM protests over the last couple of weeks.

Of course they could just be lying or following the party line which is why I said that I can't be sure.

FFS!

Haven't the white presenters been supportive of BLM then?

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:13 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:02 pm
So now you are saying that no black presenters are right wing - any proof of that?

If you "can't say for sure obviously", then why bother saying it in the first place?

FFS!

The only proof that I have comes from listening to the views of all the presenters on the BLM protests over the last couple of weeks.

Of course they could just be lying or following the party line which is why I said that I can't be sure.

FFS!

Haven't the white presenters been supportive of BLM then?

Yes. That's why I said the views of ALL the presenters

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:21 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:17 pm

Ornchurch wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:13 pm

The only proof that I have comes from listening to the views of all the presenters on the BLM protests over the last couple of weeks.

Of course they could just be lying or following the party line which is why I said that I can't be sure.

FFS!

Haven't the white presenters been supportive of BLM then?

Yes. That's why I said the views of ALL the presenters

Yep, with you now.

Generally though, is it only people deemed 'Left-wing' who are suportive of BLM then?

Why do you think that is exactly?

In other news, Herr Farage has made clear his disapproval for the decision by the BBC to remove an episode of Fawlty Towers.

He tweeted: "If Fawlty Towers is now being removed by the BBC then humour is dead".

Anthing but my dear little racist swivel-eyed loon........given that it was actually taken down from the UKTV streaming service.

What a TW@T!

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:49 pm In other news, Herr Farage has made clear his disapproval for the decision by the BBC to remove an episode of Fawlty Towers.

He tweeted: "If Fawlty Towers is now being removed by the BBC then humour is dead".

Anthing but my dear little racist swivel-eyed loon........given that it was actually taken down from the UKTV streaming service.

What a TW@T!

Nigel Farage makes the left very uncomfortable.

He speaks sense much of the time, very rarely loses an argument, and has won over a lot of the labour supporters in the white working class that Labour used to be able to call their own, the same people who can no longer vote Labour because it no longer appeals to them.

Of course, the standard response to him once the left have nothing to counter with is to simply call him a "racist" - job done, argument over.

faldO wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 2:20 pm

NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:49 pm In other news, Herr Farage has made clear his disapproval for the decision by the BBC to remove an episode of Fawlty Towers.

He tweeted: "If Fawlty Towers is now being removed by the BBC then humour is dead".

Anthing but my dear little racist swivel-eyed loon........given that it was actually taken down from the UKTV streaming service.

What a TW@T!

Nigel Farage makes the left very uncomfortable.

He speaks sense much of the time, very rarely loses an argument, and has won over a lot of the labour supporters in the white working class that Labour used to be able to call their own, the same people who can no longer vote Labour because it no longer appeals to them.

Of course, the standard response to him once the left have nothing to counter with is to simply call him a "racist" - job done, argument over.

Incorrect. I call him a proto fascist because his public face exhibits all the characteristics of one.

If it was possible to hear what he says in private I could probably elevate him to the full fascist category he exhibited during the 70s when he was a member of the National Front.