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So what's the point of issuing guidelines for lockdown if the likes of Cummings (lest we also forget Robert Jenrick - pompous Tory MP) can get away by flaunting them?Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am No doubt he'll try and explain it away by the fact that he And the missus both had CV.
So, if they both became gravely ill and were admitted to hospital, who would look after their young child.(?)
Although I'm pretty disgusted with the bloke, I don't think he should lose his job. Or, should all the other people that have breached lockdown (and there may be a couple on this board), lose their jobs too?
If you're in charge of the policy, you should abide by it. Pretty simple. If Cummings survives this, it'll just underline the complete hypocrisy of the government and the contempt they hold for any idea of accountability.Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am No doubt he'll try and explain it away by the fact that he And the missus both had CV.
So, if they both became gravely ill and were admitted to hospital, who would look after their young child.(?)
Although I'm pretty disgusted with the bloke, I don't think he should lose his job. Or, should all the other people that have breached lockdown (and there may be a couple on this board), lose their jobs too?
You're assuming I'm a Tory- bad luck. I follow no political party.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:25 amSo what's the point of issuing guidelines for lockdown if the likes of Cummings (lest we also forget Robert Jenrick - pompous Tory MP) can get away by flaunting them?Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am No doubt he'll try and explain it away by the fact that he And the missus both had CV.
So, if they both became gravely ill and were admitted to hospital, who would look after their young child.(?)
Although I'm pretty disgusted with the bloke, I don't think he should lose his job. Or, should all the other people that have breached lockdown (and there may be a couple on this board), lose their jobs too?
IF both had been taken to hospital, then how do you know that their parents or extended family, could not have looked after their child? I'm pretty sure many others have been in a similar situation over the past few months, yet still coped.
Remember there have already been other senior figures involved in tackling the pandemic who have had to resign for breaching lockdown restrictions - Scotland's Former Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood and a leading scientist Professor Neil Ferguson, who was advising the government.
Clearly your level of 'disgust with the bloke' doesn't descend to any form of punishment.
Typical Tory sycophant.........'they can do no wrong'.
Sickening!
What level of punishment would you suggest then?Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:46 amYou're assuming I'm a Tory- bad luck. I follow no political party.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:25 amSo what's the point of issuing guidelines for lockdown if the likes of Cummings (lest we also forget Robert Jenrick - pompous Tory MP) can get away by flaunting them?Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am No doubt he'll try and explain it away by the fact that he And the missus both had CV.
So, if they both became gravely ill and were admitted to hospital, who would look after their young child.(?)
Although I'm pretty disgusted with the bloke, I don't think he should lose his job. Or, should all the other people that have breached lockdown (and there may be a couple on this board), lose their jobs too?
IF both had been taken to hospital, then how do you know that their parents or extended family, could not have looked after their child? I'm pretty sure many others have been in a similar situation over the past few months, yet still coped.
Remember there have already been other senior figures involved in tackling the pandemic who have had to resign for breaching lockdown restrictions - Scotland's Former Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood and a leading scientist Professor Neil Ferguson, who was advising the government.
Clearly your level of 'disgust with the bloke' doesn't descend to any form of punishment.
Typical Tory sycophant.........'they can do no wrong'.
Sickening!
What he did was wrong on many levels, particularly taking into account his position - there's no argument from me there. I also didn't say the argument about looking after the children was My argument you're putting words into my mouth.
My personal view (and it's only my view), that he doesn't deserve to lose his job - clearly, you take a different view, and I respect that view.
We shall see what happens. 'Probably' he will lose his job, and no doubt that will bring you a lot of enjoyment.
Of course he should lose his job. Just as that randy prof and the scotch bird did. Those in power and setting the rules should be held to the highest of standards.Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am No doubt he'll try and explain it away by the fact that he And the missus both had CV.
So, if they both became gravely ill and were admitted to hospital, who would look after their young child.(?)
Although I'm pretty disgusted with the bloke, I don't think he should lose his job. Or, should all the other people that have breached lockdown (and there may be a couple on this board), lose their jobs too?
Surely not another conspiracy theory...StillSpike wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 2:03 pm Maybe that's the point of this story coming out today - at the start of another Bank Holiday.
How many folk will read this and decide that given the people at the top aren't even following their own rules then no-one should, so they'll go out and pack the beaches and the park. Big jump in infections/deaths etc - and "herd immunity" - and it's not the government's fault at all, it's the stupid great unwashed who appear in all those telephoto pictures.
Lockdown ends by "the will of the people" - so they might as well all go back to work now.
Calm down dear, they were only guide lines, not rules that ended with a prosecution and or prison term, I'm sure if you had been followed around someone could point out your social miss doingsNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:25 amSo what's the point of issuing guidelines for lockdown if the likes of Cummings (lest we also forget Robert Jenrick - pompous Tory MP) can get away by flaunting them?Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am No doubt he'll try and explain it away by the fact that he And the missus both had CV.
So, if they both became gravely ill and were admitted to hospital, who would look after their young child.(?)
Although I'm pretty disgusted with the bloke, I don't think he should lose his job. Or, should all the other people that have breached lockdown (and there may be a couple on this board), lose their jobs too?
IF both had been taken to hospital, then how do you know that their parents or extended family, could not have looked after their child? I'm pretty sure many others have been in a similar situation over the past few months, yet still coped.
Remember there have already been other senior figures involved in tackling the pandemic who have had to resign for breaching lockdown restrictions - Scotland's Former Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood and a leading scientist Professor Neil Ferguson, who was advising the government.
Clearly your level of 'disgust with the bloke' doesn't descend to any form of punishment.
Typical Tory sycophant.........'they can do no wrong'.
Sickening!
They were his guidelines though. So it's probably ok to break your own guidelines. Case closed.point nine one eight wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 2:38 pmCalm down dear, they were only guide lines, not rules that ended with a prosecution and or prison term, I'm sure if you had been followed around someone could point out your social miss doingsNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:25 amSo what's the point of issuing guidelines for lockdown if the likes of Cummings (lest we also forget Robert Jenrick - pompous Tory MP) can get away by flaunting them?Scuba Diver wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 am No doubt he'll try and explain it away by the fact that he And the missus both had CV.
So, if they both became gravely ill and were admitted to hospital, who would look after their young child.(?)
Although I'm pretty disgusted with the bloke, I don't think he should lose his job. Or, should all the other people that have breached lockdown (and there may be a couple on this board), lose their jobs too?
IF both had been taken to hospital, then how do you know that their parents or extended family, could not have looked after their child? I'm pretty sure many others have been in a similar situation over the past few months, yet still coped.
Remember there have already been other senior figures involved in tackling the pandemic who have had to resign for breaching lockdown restrictions - Scotland's Former Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood and a leading scientist Professor Neil Ferguson, who was advising the government.
Clearly your level of 'disgust with the bloke' doesn't descend to any form of punishment.
Typical Tory sycophant.........'they can do no wrong'.
Sickening!
yep absolutely right, meet you down the pub and we can discuss it furtherMax B Gold wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 2:50 pmThey were his guidelines though. So it's probably ok to break your own guidelines. Case closed.point nine one eight wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 2:38 pmCalm down dear, they were only guide lines, not rules that ended with a prosecution and or prison term, I'm sure if you had been followed around someone could point out your social miss doingsNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:25 am
So what's the point of issuing guidelines for lockdown if the likes of Cummings (lest we also forget Robert Jenrick - pompous Tory MP) can get away by flaunting them?
IF both had been taken to hospital, then how do you know that their parents or extended family, could not have looked after their child? I'm pretty sure many others have been in a similar situation over the past few months, yet still coped.
Remember there have already been other senior figures involved in tackling the pandemic who have had to resign for breaching lockdown restrictions - Scotland's Former Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood and a leading scientist Professor Neil Ferguson, who was advising the government.
Clearly your level of 'disgust with the bloke' doesn't descend to any form of punishment.
Typical Tory sycophant.........'they can do no wrong'.
Sickening!
One rule for the elite another for the plebs.
If he does the right thing and resigns he will be off the payroll/gravy train.Ornchurch wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 3:20 pm It just goes to show that he is like 'the man in the street'.
"Who cares" was his response when questioned. Probably the same as those caught on the beaches and in the parks.
I'm not getting in to a political argument but someone of his status in the pandemic should be held to account.
At the end of the day though he is only an aide and the cynic in me asks what will stop him advising in the future albeit out of the public view?
Given your apparent stance, are you seriously supporting what this little creature did?point nine one eight wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 2:38 pm Calm down dear, they were only guide lines, not rules that ended with a prosecution and or prison term, I'm sure if you had been followed around someone could point out your social miss doings