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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:37 am I’ve read articles that claims the virus was here well before Christmas . If that’s the case then the virus has already done all it’s damage long before we even knew it was here. It went on to say that a large section of the population could have already had it and just passed it off as a cold. If all these people were taken into account the death percentage rate would be a lot lower because at the moment its standing at 14%. If it stays that way it would indicate that 8 million of us are going to die from this virus

greyhound wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:53 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:37 am I’ve read articles that claims the virus was here well before Christmas . If that’s the case then the virus has already done all it’s damage long before we even knew it was here. It went on to say that a large section of the population could have already had it and just passed it off as a cold. If all these people were taken into account the death percentage rate would be a lot lower because at the moment its standing at 14%. If it stays that way it would indicate that 8 million of us are going to die from this virus

in Jan i had flue symptoms for 2 weeks then a dry cough for a further 3 weeks
was it just the flue i will never no.

HeyO wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:55 am

greyhound wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:53 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:37 am I’ve read articles that claims the virus was here well before Christmas . If that’s the case then the virus has already done all it’s damage long before we even knew it was here. It went on to say that a large section of the population could have already had it and just passed it off as a cold. If all these people were taken into account the death percentage rate would be a lot lower because at the moment its standing at 14%. If it stays that way it would indicate that 8 million of us are going to die from this virus

in Jan i had flue symptoms for 2 weeks then a dry cough for a further 3 weeks
was it just the flue i will never no.

Likely chimney disease.

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:26 am Neil Ferguson has previous in relation to being a bit sh*t in his estimations.
During the Swine Flu outbreak in 2009 he predicted 65,000 deaths in the UK and advised schools and businesses be shut down until a vaccine was produced. Reality was only 500 deaths occurred. Even Matt Hancock was questioned about Ferguson's predictions on the Today programme last month.

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 3:35 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:26 am Neil Ferguson has previous in relation to being a bit sh*t in his estimations.
During the Swine Flu outbreak in 2009 he predicted 65,000 deaths in the UK and advised schools and businesses be shut down until a vaccine was produced. Reality was only 500 deaths occurred. Even Matt Hancock was questioned about Ferguson's predictions on the Today programme last month.

If Shagger Ferguson had such a poor predictavive track record it begs the question why the Tories were using him as an advisor but then set him up and ditched him.

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:14 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 3:35 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:26 am Neil Ferguson has previous in relation to being a bit sh*t in his estimations.
During the Swine Flu outbreak in 2009 he predicted 65,000 deaths in the UK and advised schools and businesses be shut down until a vaccine was produced. Reality was only 500 deaths occurred. Even Matt Hancock was questioned about Ferguson's predictions on the Today programme last month.

If Shagger Ferguson had such a poor predictavive track record it begs the question why the Tories were using him as an advisor but then set him up and ditched him.

Because both he and the other so called expert, Chris Whitty, are both funded by Matt Hancock's best bud - Bill Gates.
Now you know why the mandatory vaccine option is continually being pushed.

o-no wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:29 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:14 pm

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 3:35 pm

If Shagger Ferguson had such a poor predictavive track record it begs the question why the Tories were using him as an advisor but then set him up and ditched him.

Because both he and the other so called expert, Chris Whitty, are both funded by Matt Hancock's best bud - Bill Gates.
Now you know why the mandatory vaccine option is continually being pushed.

So - let me get this clear - the reason mandatory vaccination is being pushed is not because it has proven efficacious at protecting entire populations from horrible viruses for years - but because the organisation he worked for once got some money from Bill Gates' foundation. Got it.

greyhound wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 9:53 am

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:37 am I’ve read articles that claims the virus was here well before Christmas . If that’s the case then the virus has already done all it’s damage long before we even knew it was here. It went on to say that a large section of the population could have already had it and just passed it off as a cold. If all these people were taken into account the death percentage rate would be a lot lower because at the moment its standing at 14%. If it stays that way it would indicate that 8 million of us are going to die from this virus

in Jan i had flue symptoms for 2 weeks then a dry cough for a further 3 weeks
was it just the flue i will never no.

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:55 pm

o-no wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:29 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:14 pm

Because both he and the other so called expert, Chris Whitty, are both funded by Matt Hancock's best bud - Bill Gates.
Now you know why the mandatory vaccine option is continually being pushed.

So - let me get this clear - the reason mandatory vaccination is being pushed is not because it has proven efficacious at protecting entire populations from horrible viruses for years - but because the organisation he worked for once got some money from Bill Gates' foundation. Got it.

You may want to do a quick search on Bill Gates and his polio vaccines in India and Africa. Doesn't make great reading.
Tie this into how he virtually runs the WHO with his funding and his goal to depopularise the world and it's quite frightening how he has such an influence.

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:55 pm

o-no wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:29 pm

LeytonstoneRed07 wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 4:14 pm

Because both he and the other so called expert, Chris Whitty, are both funded by Matt Hancock's best bud - Bill Gates.
Now you know why the mandatory vaccine option is continually being pushed.

So - let me get this clear - the reason mandatory vaccination is being pushed is not because it has proven efficacious at protecting entire populations from horrible viruses for years - but because the organisation he worked for once got some money from Bill Gates' foundation. Got it.

You may want to do a quick search on Bill Gates and his polio vaccines in India and Africa. Doesn't make great reading.
Tie this into how he virtually runs the WHO with his funding and his goal to depopularise the world and it's quite frightening how he has such an influence.

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:49 pm 500,000 deaths was the prediction if there was no action taken. You may not have noticed but there has been the odd tweak or two to our daily schedules recently. You massive plank.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 10:12 am

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 2:49 pm 500,000 deaths was the prediction if there was no action taken. You may not have noticed but there has been the odd tweak or two to our daily schedules recently. You massive plank.

All based on 0.9% of those infected dying, which is wrong isnt it?

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:09 pm 0.04% of the UK's population of 66 million have died from Covid 19.

Can anyone illustrate what this figure actually looks like in real terms ?

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:34 pm Isn't it about 30,000 people? Like a really big football stadium full ? Is that the sort of visualisation you mean?

PutneyO wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:32 pm I'd like to see a visual graphic. What is 0.04% of 66 million. It must be minute.

StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:34 pm Isn't it about 30,000 people? Like a really big football stadium full ? Is that the sort of visualisation you mean?