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Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:15 am
by o-no
Thor wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:36 am The scientists have suggested that more people will die from the lockdown than from the virus.
That's just not true. Are these your indian conspiracy site scientists?

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:20 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Would be nice to know what the governments actual plan is.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:31 am
by o-no
There are three possibilities I can think of

1) They have no idea
2) They have an idea but they don't want to tell us, because not everyone will like it, or there are problems they haven't figured out yet
3) They want to wait to see what other countries do first

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:09 am
by Dunners
It could be a bit of 2 and 3.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:56 am
by Orient Punxx
Government doesn’t really need a plan.

Given we’re behind other countries any plan can be based on their experiences of coming out of lockdown.

My wife and I were totally flippant about getting “it” at the outset.

Both of us have had it since and the Wife is back working in the local hospital.

Our symptoms were relatively mild although for me I exhibited for over 2 weeks.

Now we know how deadly this thing is - if we weren’t certain that we’d had I would be sh*tting myself about getting it.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:03 am
by BoniO
Thor wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:36 am The scientists have suggested that more people will die from the lockdown than from the virus.
Why do you keep coming out with this sh*t? You're a busted flush mate, nobody is listening to you.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:08 am
by Long slender neck
Orient Punxx wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:56 am Government doesn’t really need a plan.

Given we’re behind other countries any plan can be based on their experiences of coming out of lockdown.

My wife and I were totally flippant about getting “it” at the outset.

Both of us have had it since and the Wife is back working in the local hospital.

Our symptoms were relatively mild although for me I exhibited for over 2 weeks.

Now we know how deadly this thing is - if we weren’t certain that we’d had I would be sh*tting myself about getting it.
Were you tested for it?

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:23 am
by Orient Punxx
No - 100% certain we had.

Testing wasn’t available for the Wife then - would be now.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:04 am
by Millennial Snowflake
o-no wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:31 am There are three possibilities I can think of

1) They have no idea
2) They have an idea but they don't want to tell us, because not everyone will like it, or there are problems they haven't figured out yet
3) They want to wait to see what other countries do first
It would help if the British public weren't acting like utter pricks and actually followed the lockdown guidelines correctly.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:06 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:04 am
o-no wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:31 am There are three possibilities I can think of

1) They have no idea
2) They have an idea but they don't want to tell us, because not everyone will like it, or there are problems they haven't figured out yet
3) They want to wait to see what other countries do first
It would help if the British public weren't acting like utter pricks and actually followed the lockdown guidelines correctly.
Aah, it's our fault.

The vast, vast majority of people are adhering to the guidance. It's offensive, as well as wrong, to suggest otherwise.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:12 am
by Millennial Snowflake
RedO wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:06 am
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:04 am
o-no wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:31 am There are three possibilities I can think of

1) They have no idea
2) They have an idea but they don't want to tell us, because not everyone will like it, or there are problems they haven't figured out yet
3) They want to wait to see what other countries do first
It would help if the British public weren't acting like utter pricks and actually followed the lockdown guidelines correctly.
Aah, it's our fault.

The vast, vast majority of people are adhering to the guidance. It's offensive, as well as wrong, to suggest otherwise.
Offensive? Get over yourself.

There are loads of people in London showing blatant disregard for social distancing measures. Every day I had someone coming too close to me. I get that London is crowded and it's virtually impossible to stay 2m apart from others at all times, but there's a significant number clearly not taking the guidelines seriously.

Obviously it's the government's fault that people need to be told what to do eh?

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:15 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Why are you out and about so much?

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:22 am
by Max B Gold
RedO wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:15 am Why are you out and about so much?
He's a free spirit. They will never take his freedom.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:34 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
I find it really interesting that there's an expectation that such a HUGE change is adhered to IMMEDIATELY by EVERYONE!

If an underground line is on strike for one day, loads of people struggle to adjust to either getting up earlier, or taking another route. Change is tough, even on a small scale.

All of a sudden almost all of our liberties are taken away. Everyone is now expected to do something that none of us have EVER done, for a single day, in our life times. A complete change to routine and basic freedoms.

I think as a nation we've done extremely well which such a huge ask.

I am all for the 'lockdown' at the moment (should have been earlier, obviously). But the people bleating on about people not following it, or saying that anyone sun bathing should be arrest or shot simply have no real understanding on how dramatic this is and how bad humans are with change.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:03 am
by JimbO
Real Al wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:00 pm
Southcoastsoftee wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:15 pm I wish it all was a dream/nightmare, it scary alright, I’ve been laid off and my wife work in a supermarket on checkouts, it’s doing her in mentally, Christ I wish it was over right now, but I guess we will all just have to hang in there as best we can.
Obviously people are thanking the NHS, but I've seen that people are also leaving notes of appreciation out for binmen etc. Hopefully your wife is getting people thanking her too, but you can certainly tell her thank you from me.
Most of our bin men ( apparently in my area their down a couple of teams as seven of them have gone down with it ) have been thanked and my missus certainly thanks the super markets. I wouldn't want to work in one at the moment and they seem to be doing well in coping from what she tells me.

I'm just hoping that when all this is over people are just generally a bit more tolerant and respectful of each other, but i'm not holding my breath.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:26 am
by RedDwarf 1881
greyhound wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:11 pm sitting hear just wondering is this just a dream
or is this something you only see in a movie. i am not
embarrassed to say its worrying to say the least not just for me and
the wife and all the family as well. god knows what it must be like for family's
with love ones who have to work. this is like a horror story.
I've been saying to friends that it feels like we're living in the Twilight Zone. It's like we've gone into some sort of parallel universe. It's hard to believe what's going on .

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:51 am
by Millennial Snowflake
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:34 am I find it really interesting that there's an expectation that such a HUGE change is adhered to IMMEDIATELY by EVERYONE!

If an underground line is on strike for one day, loads of people struggle to adjust to either getting up earlier, or taking another route. Change is tough, even on a small scale.

All of a sudden almost all of our liberties are taken away. Everyone is now expected to do something that none of us have EVER done, for a single day, in our life times. A complete change to routine and basic freedoms.

I think as a nation we've done extremely well which such a huge ask.

I am all for the 'lockdown' at the moment (should have been earlier, obviously). But the people bleating on about people not following it, or saying that anyone sun bathing should be arrest or shot simply have no real understanding on how dramatic this is and how bad humans are with change.
The lockdown has been in place for 3 and a half weeks mate. Hardly immediate

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:58 am
by Rich Tea Wellin
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:51 am
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:34 am I find it really interesting that there's an expectation that such a HUGE change is adhered to IMMEDIATELY by EVERYONE!

If an underground line is on strike for one day, loads of people struggle to adjust to either getting up earlier, or taking another route. Change is tough, even on a small scale.

All of a sudden almost all of our liberties are taken away. Everyone is now expected to do something that none of us have EVER done, for a single day, in our life times. A complete change to routine and basic freedoms.

I think as a nation we've done extremely well which such a huge ask.

I am all for the 'lockdown' at the moment (should have been earlier, obviously). But the people bleating on about people not following it, or saying that anyone sun bathing should be arrest or shot simply have no real understanding on how dramatic this is and how bad humans are with change.
The lockdown has been in place for 3 and a half weeks mate. Hardly immediate
The lockdown was enforced with immediate effect and people were expected to change their habits with immediate effect.

Again, 3 weeks in and i don't see many people breaking it. There's always gonna be some idiots but again, the point still stands. 3 and a half weeks to adapt to something that none of us have had to do in 30, 40, 50 years of our lives is an incredibly short amount of time.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:56 pm
by o-no
I don't disagree that change is hard (for some especially), but that seems to be just making excuses for those who are disinclined to make the effort.

It really isn't that difficult to minimise the amount of time you spend out of the house/around other people if you try and plan a bit. It is dull, and it will affect the mental health of some, but this requires a joint effort and I'm afraid 'some idiots' don't get a pass from me on this one.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:00 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
No one is excusing the handful of idiots.

I'm just wanting to praise the vast, vast majority who have changed their behaviour and taken the guidance.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:06 pm
by Dunners
It's not often the slovenly alcoholics get praised as role models, so let's not waste the opportunity.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:15 pm
by Millennial Snowflake
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:58 am
Millennial Snowflake wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:51 am
Apple Wumble wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:34 am I find it really interesting that there's an expectation that such a HUGE change is adhered to IMMEDIATELY by EVERYONE!

If an underground line is on strike for one day, loads of people struggle to adjust to either getting up earlier, or taking another route. Change is tough, even on a small scale.

All of a sudden almost all of our liberties are taken away. Everyone is now expected to do something that none of us have EVER done, for a single day, in our life times. A complete change to routine and basic freedoms.

I think as a nation we've done extremely well which such a huge ask.

I am all for the 'lockdown' at the moment (should have been earlier, obviously). But the people bleating on about people not following it, or saying that anyone sun bathing should be arrest or shot simply have no real understanding on how dramatic this is and how bad humans are with change.
The lockdown has been in place for 3 and a half weeks mate. Hardly immediate
The lockdown was enforced with immediate effect and people were expected to change their habits with immediate effect.

Again, 3 weeks in and i don't see many people breaking it. There's always gonna be some idiots but again, the point still stands. 3 and a half weeks to adapt to something that none of us have had to do in 30, 40, 50 years of our lives is an incredibly short amount of time.
Doesn’t matter if it’s a minority, the numbers are still significant enough for it to put people’s lives at risk, such is the contagiousness of the virus.

So what’s your solution mate? It isn’t an easy change to make, but having sympathy with others in a crisis doesn’t stop people dying...

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:55 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Just realised that the reason I'm not seeing much/any evidence of people flouting the guidance is that I'm adhering to it myself. If I'm not out and about, I'm not going to see it.

Maybe those who seem to see people ignoring the instructions are out and about a little bit too much themselves? Although I'm sure they have perfectly valid reasons for being out and about, obviously.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:39 pm
by Dunners
"I'm stuck in traffic" = I am the traffic.

Re: is this realy happening

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:43 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Dunners wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:39 pm "I'm stuck in traffic" = I am the traffic.
Whoa, that's deep.