Potential Return of Football

[Ornchurch]

Would just scrapping the season be the least complicated option now?

nah. i think you have to play it out. Promotions and relegations, especially in the prem/champ are worth so much money there would be legal battles for years.

Exactly this. I’ve read that the non league teams whose seasons have been cancelled are seeking legal advice with a potential law suit as clubs have wasted effectively thousands on getting promoted, getting the stadia up to standards required for the next level only to be denied. I think a big bag of worms may have been opened.

I think that there will also be potential law suits from clubs who lose out should the remaining games be played under different conditions than those played already,

[EH16]

This season is over. All that remains is to decide to end it where it stands or wipe it. Personally, I don't really care either way.

[LittleMate]

If they cannot extend players contracts until the current season ends then any player that moves to another club after June 30th but before the current season has finished should not be allowed to play in the competition.

Unless they change the transfer window...

That could also have the impact that some clubs, who might have 10-15 players out of contract dont have a team.

I guess they could meet in the middle and allow clubs to resign their out of contract players to a short extension, but they cannot sign any other players so the player either signs for 2 months more with their current club, or they cant play football.

Isn't there also a deadline by which clubs have to announce released players or offer a renewed contract by (early June?). I think its particularly relevant to U23's where there may be some worth in the player, but nevertheless relevant to all. In the same way the player does not have to play beyond 30th June, he may already have already declined new terms and decided his future is elsewhere whilst still being asked to finish the season.

All an unholy but unavoidable mess.

[StillSpike]

Apparently, in light of the SPFL moving towards calling the leagues as they are, Rangers and Hearts have decided to form their own breakaway league.

They're going to call it the Hundesliga

[Max B Gold]

This season is over. All that remains is to decide to end it where it stands or wipe it. Personally, I don't really care either way.

You might if it means your team get no prize money if it is called null and void.

[Max B Gold]

Apparently, in light of the SPFL moving towards calling the leagues as they are, Rangers and Hearts have decided to form their own breakaway league.

They're going to call it the Hundesliga

Good they have been stinking up the League for too long.

I see Patrick Thistle Nil have obtained a QCs opinion that says the SPFL have got it wrong. Quelle surprise.

As Sevco are running on fumes and have been for some time they just need to accept the League is over and Sellik have won it if they want to get their hands on the prize money to finance their impending Administration.

[Thor]

Apparently, in light of the SPFL moving towards calling the leagues as they are, Rangers and Hearts have decided to form their own breakaway league.

They're going to call it the Hundesliga

Good they have been stinking up the League for too long.

I see Patrick Thistle Nil have obtained a QCs opinion that says the SPFL have got it wrong. Quelle surprise.

As Sevco are running on fumes and have been for some time they just need to accept the League is over and Sellik have won it if they want to get their hands on the prize money to finance their impending Administration.

I thought Rangers were taking legal action against the league?

[StillSpike]

There's talking about taking legal action, and there's taking legal action.

[tuffers#1]

Re Contracts & dates
Players contracts must be for a full season,
If players breach contracts by not being being
willingbto fulfill those contracts may lead to releasing
of registrations .


Scotland isnt saying finish as it is .
Its saying adding p.p.g to total already won .


Rangers taking legal action



Those cheating c*nts ?

WATP
What are tax payers

[Max B Gold]

Apparently, in light of the SPFL moving towards calling the leagues as they are, Rangers and Hearts have decided to form their own breakaway league.

They're going to call it the Hundesliga

Good they have been stinking up the League for too long.

I see Patrick Thistle Nil have obtained a QCs opinion that says the SPFL have got it wrong. Quelle surprise.

As Sevco are running on fumes and have been for some time they just need to accept the League is over and Sellik have won it if they want to get their hands on the prize money to finance their impending Administration.

I thought Rangers were taking legal action against the league?

They might as well. There's hardly an organisation, company or institution they haven't taken legal action against.

The kind of accusations they have been throwing around (without proof) have brought the game into disrepute and I'm fully expecting the SFA to raise the necessary paperwork asap.

[tuffers#1]

SCOTLANDS SHAME

[Thor]

Re Contracts & dates
Players contracts must be for a full season,
If players breach contracts by not being being
willingbto fulfill those contracts may lead to releasing
of registrations .


Scotland isnt saying finish as it is .
Its saying adding p.p.g to total already won .


Rangers taking legal action



Those cheating c*nts ?

WATP
What are tax payers

Contracts are for a period of time, not seasons. So if the players contract expires on the 30/6/30 and he does not want to play there is nothing compelling him to do so.

He may have a new club and contract lined up and so doesn't want to risk injury by playing for a club he intends to leave.

It also works the other way, the club that does not want to extend the contract is not legally obliged to pay them anything further either.

Swings and roundabouts.

[tuffers#1]

Re Contracts & dates
Players contracts must be for a full season,
If players breach contracts by not being being
willingbto fulfill those contracts may lead to releasing
of registrations .


Scotland isnt saying finish as it is .
Its saying adding p.p.g to total already won .


Rangers taking legal action



Those cheating c*nts ?

WATP
What are tax payers

Contracts are for a period of time, not seasons. So if the players contract expires on the 30/6/30 and he does not want to play there is nothing compelling him to do so.

He may have a new club and contract lined up and so doesn't want to risk injury by playing for a club he intends to leave.

It also works the other way, the club that does not want to extend the contract is not legally obliged to pay them anything further either.

Swings and roundabouts.

Yes thor
Based on periods of time over the duration of football seasons .

Some players back in the day had to get summer jobs .

[Thor]

True, but didn’t Jimmy Hill act as the catalyst for change in that respect?

[tuffers#1]

True, but didn’t Jimmy Hill act as the catalyst for change in that respect?

What has Jimmy Hill got to do with it ?

Players have there registrations held by clubs .

Contracts or deals done with other clubs only after registrations are dealt with.

[o-no]

OK, so this coronavirus is going to be around for a good while yet.

If footie is going to restart, it needs to be on a smaller scale than usual at least initially, so why not half next season by playing just the home or the away fixture rather than both (avoiding travel and allowing more distancing in stadiums) and finish the current season in some time you would then have at the start of next season. You would need to unilaterally extend contracts until the end of the 'current' season whenever that turns out to be. Cup tournaments can be skipped altogether.

After that, you can have your promotions/relegations and restart 'next' season after a short break, if it's still safe to do so.

[tuffers#1]

So do clubs only earn half income & players earn only half wages to ?

Good luck with that .

[Ornchurch]

OK, so this coronavirus is going to be around for a good while yet.

If footie is going to restart, it needs to be on a smaller scale than usual at least initially, so why not half next season by playing just the home or the away fixture rather than both (avoiding travel and allowing more distancing in stadiums) and finish the current season in some time you would then have at the start of next season. You would need to unilaterally extend contracts until the end of the 'current' season whenever that turns out to be. Cup tournaments can be skipped altogether.

After that, you can have your promotions/relegations and restart 'next' season after a short break, if it's still safe to do so.

I really cannot see the point in corrupting the integrity of the next season when a lot of people are insisting that this season must be completed.

Next season must be played as normal, league wise, once this season has been resolved.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Out of the box idea but you could do an American style division where you put teams within each division into ‘conferences’ I.e. league two southeast, league two north, etc and the top teams and ‘wildcard’ next best go to the playoffs.

Limits unnecessary travel/hotel stays, etc....

[StillSpike]

SPFL have just called the season on ppg after Dundee FC finally voted in support of the resolution (thanks EH16) . Raith Rovers promoted as Champions, as are Dundee United and Cove Rangers in their respective leagues.

Work underway on reconstruction, so still possible that the "relegated" teams might get a reprieve.

More importantly, season prize payments now being made from the SPFL so clubs might survive.

[LittleMate]

OK, so this coronavirus is going to be around for a good while yet.

If footie is going to restart, it needs to be on a smaller scale than usual at least initially, so why not half next season by playing just the home or the away fixture rather than both (avoiding travel and allowing more distancing in stadiums) and finish the current season in some time you would then have at the start of next season. You would need to unilaterally extend contracts until the end of the 'current' season whenever that turns out to be. Cup tournaments can be skipped altogether.

After that, you can have your promotions/relegations and restart 'next' season after a short break, if it's still safe to do so.

I really cannot see the point in corrupting the integrity of the next season when a lot of people are insisting that this season must be completed.

Next season must be played as normal, league wise, once this season has been resolved.

Because of the break; because of players contractural issues; because they will cram 20% of the season into a narrow window this season's competition has already lost some integrity. Take the Orient. What do we have to play for? Personal pride and fan satisfaction. Cram that into a 10 game 6 week season and intensities have to drop and injuries rise. I'd be telling RE to make sure his retained squad to take it easy and be ready for next season whilst blooding youngsters and using those that might not be retained to showcase their abilities to others.

[StillSpike]

SPFL have just called the season on ppg after Dundee FC finally voted in support of the resolution (thanks EH16) . Raith Rovers promoted as Champions, as are Dundee United and Cove Rangers in their respective leagues.

Work underway on reconstruction, so still possible that the "relegated" teams might get a reprieve.

More importantly, season prize payments now being made from the SPFL so clubs might survive.

Mainly Rangers and Hearts fans in utter meltdown on various social media

[Thor]

True, but didn’t Jimmy Hill act as the catalyst for change in that respect?

What has Jimmy Hill got to do with it ?

Players have there registrations held by clubs .

Contracts or deals done with other clubs only after registrations are dealt with.

You said players had to get summer jobs cos their pay dropped, I said jimmy hill was the catalyst for that change.

[Max B Gold]

SPFL have just called the season on ppg after Dundee FC finally voted in support of the resolution (thanks EH16) . Raith Rovers promoted as Champions, as are Dundee United and Cove Rangers in their respective leagues.

Work underway on reconstruction, so still possible that the "relegated" teams might get a reprieve.

More importantly, season prize payments now being made from the SPFL so clubs might survive.

Mainly Rangers and Hearts fans in utter meltdown on various social media

Admin coming up for Sevco as soon as that cash hits the bank.

[Ornchurch]

OK, so this coronavirus is going to be around for a good while yet.

If footie is going to restart, it needs to be on a smaller scale than usual at least initially, so why not half next season by playing just the home or the away fixture rather than both (avoiding travel and allowing more distancing in stadiums) and finish the current season in some time you would then have at the start of next season. You would need to unilaterally extend contracts until the end of the 'current' season whenever that turns out to be. Cup tournaments can be skipped altogether.

After that, you can have your promotions/relegations and restart 'next' season after a short break, if it's still safe to do so.

I really cannot see the point in corrupting the integrity of the next season when a lot of people are insisting that this season must be completed.

Next season must be played as normal, league wise, once this season has been resolved.

Because of the break; because of players contractural issues; because they will cram 20% of the season into a narrow window this season's competition has already lost some integrity. Take the Orient. What do we have to play for? Personal pride and fan satisfaction. Cram that into a 10 game 6 week season and intensities have to drop and injuries rise. I'd be telling RE to make sure his retained squad to take it easy and be ready for next season whilst blooding youngsters and using those that might not be retained to showcase their abilities to others.

Exactly. This season has lost its integrity and should be finished now as any promotions/relegations will be as unfair after a contrived finish to the leagues as they are now. Yet some people don't want this, and insist the season must be finished, but are happy for 2 seasons to be compromised.