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Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 11:40 am
by Disoriented
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:32 am
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:48 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:36 am
It was David Icke, in his first book, published in 1998, who said former Prime Minister Edward Heath, was a child abuser, and had had the children he abused, murdered.
Ted Heath was still alive at this time, but he didn't sue.
Work out why he didn't for yourselves !
Because it was written by David Icke whom no one in their right mind would take seriously.
You cant dismiss it is easily as that. If you looked in Ickes books, many things he said in the 90's for which he was dismissed, have now come true.
You are obviously not a thinking person, and you dismiss every view, you dont agree with, rather than keep an open mind
What, you mean his holocaust denial views?
Should we keep an open mind on that?
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 12:04 pm
by Top of the JES
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:32 am
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:48 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:36 am
It was David Icke, in his first book, published in 1998, who said former Prime Minister Edward Heath, was a child abuser, and had had the children he abused, murdered.
Ted Heath was still alive at this time, but he didn't sue.
Work out why he didn't for yourselves !
Because it was written by David Icke whom no one in their right mind would take seriously.
You cant dismiss it is easily as that. If you looked in Ickes books, many things he said in the 90's for which he was dismissed, have now come true, particularly his stuff on the environment.
You are obviously not a thinking person, and you dismiss every view, you dont agree with, rather than keep an open mind
If you think its nuts, then it must be eh?
Well said COYOs. A lot of the things that Icke had written and presented have to be taken with a pinch of salt and some of it is distasteful, but the environmental stuff that no one took seriously in the 90s is now not so far fetched.
Don't worry about the opinions of Disoriented he is so far up his own jacksy it untrue, he has always tried to discredit and ridicule anyone he doesn't agree with comes over as a horrible bitter sort of bloke who always has to have the final word.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 12:10 pm
by Thor
And so it comes true. Icke has been de-platormed across various social media platforms. His freedom of speech is be denied. Yours and mine will be next.
Dr Buttar has also been banned or is being removed as he makes some serious points about what we face right now.
Now the government is going to roll out a tracing app which was developed by GCHQ and the masses will just accept it. If you dow load it to your mobile devices you deserve everything this government is going to do to you. Now we need to stand up and say no, enough enough. They have created fear and scare in people for a virus which kills a fraction of people compared to flu. Yet we are on lockdown and when 650k die of flu each year its business as usual. Big brother is marching right through us and we are just letting it happen. Shameful.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 12:41 pm
by EH16
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:32 am
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:48 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:36 am
It was David Icke, in his first book, published in 1998, who said former Prime Minister Edward Heath, was a child abuser, and had had the children he abused, murdered.
Ted Heath was still alive at this time, but he didn't sue.
Work out why he didn't for yourselves !
Because it was written by David Icke whom no one in their right mind would take seriously.
You cant dismiss it is easily as that. If you looked in Ickes books, many things he said in the 90's for which he was dismissed, have now come true, particularly his stuff on the environment.
You are obviously not a thinking person, and you dismiss every view, you dont agree with, rather than keep an open mind
If you think its nuts, then it must be eh?
Oh dear. Because I dismiss David Icke you make the leap (which is solely in your own mind) that I therefore dismiss any view I don't agree with. That is an extremely arrogant assumption which has no basis in fact and clearly shows YOU are not much of a thinker. As to his stuff on the environment there are LOADS of people out there who've been warning about the dangers far more clearly and articulately than he.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 12:43 pm
by NuneatonO's
People generally are so blinkered and apathetic these days, they would believe anything that the Mainstream Media and Governments tell them.
I certainly don't consider myself to be a conspiracy theorist but I do know one thing. Having researched it, purely out of interest for years, if people believe the narrative of the U.S. Govt. over 9/11, they are so unbelievably gullible, that it truly beggars belief.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:14 pm
by ComeOnYouOs
Thor wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:10 pm
And so it comes true. Icke has been de-platormed across various social media platforms. His freedom of speech is be denied. Yours and mine will be next.
Dr Buttar has also been banned or is being removed as he makes some serious points about what we face right now.
Now the government is going to roll out a tracing app which was developed by GCHQ and the masses will just accept it. If you dow load it to your mobile devices you deserve everything this government is going to do to you. Now we need to stand up and say no, enough enough. They have created fear and scare in people for a virus which kills a fraction of people compared to flu. Yet we are on lockdown and when 650k die of flu each year its business as usual. Big brother is marching right through us and we are just letting it happen. Shameful.
I agree with most of this post Thor, but would just query the figure of 650k deaths per year from flu in this country. Could you tell me where you got that figure from please
Thanks
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:47 pm
by faldO
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 3:14 pm
Thor wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:10 pm
And so it comes true. Icke has been de-platormed across various social media platforms. His freedom of speech is be denied. Yours and mine will be next.
Dr Buttar has also been banned or is being removed as he makes some serious points about what we face right now.
Now the government is going to roll out a tracing app which was developed by GCHQ and the masses will just accept it. If you dow load it to your mobile devices you deserve everything this government is going to do to you. Now we need to stand up and say no, enough enough. They have created fear and scare in people for a virus which kills a fraction of people compared to flu. Yet we are on lockdown and when 650k die of flu each year its business as usual. Big brother is marching right through us and we are just letting it happen. Shameful.
I agree with most of this post Thor, but would just query the figure of 650k deaths per year from flu in this country. Could you tell me where you got that figure from please
Thanks
650k die worldwide from flu, not in the UK. Though that is the upper limit, and it varies each year.
What will the government "do to us" if we run their app? And where does it say it was developed by GCHQ? According to available information it was developed by NHSX in partnership with academia and industry. GCHQ have only been involved in an advisory capacity.
I'd be more worried about the app running down my battery than anything else but I'd have no problem with installing and running it.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 5:31 pm
by BoniO
Thor wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:10 pm
And so it comes true. Icke has been de-platormed across various social media platforms. His freedom of speech is be denied. Yours and mine will be next.
Dr Buttar has also been banned or is being removed as he makes some serious points about what we face right now.
Now the government is going to roll out a tracing app which was developed by GCHQ and the masses will just accept it. If you dow load it to your mobile devices you deserve everything this government is going to do to you. Now we need to stand up and say no, enough enough. They have created fear and scare in people for a virus which kills a fraction of people compared to flu. Yet we are on lockdown and when 650k die of flu each year its business as usual. Big brother is marching right through us and we are just letting it happen. Shameful.
I'm glad to see you show such loyalty to the nut-job right wing militia types who stormed the Michigan Governors place of work. Armed to the teeth and spouting that "there was no pandemic" - you'd fit right in.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 8:04 pm
by The Mindsweep
I always wondered where the "can't trust the mainstream media" lot get their trusted info from. Makes sense now.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:01 pm
by Real Al
NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:43 pm
People generally are so blinkered and apathetic these days, they would believe anything that the Mainstream Media and Governments tell them.
I certainly don't consider myself to be a conspiracy theorist but I do know one thing. Having researched it, purely out of interest for years, if people believe the narrative of the U.S. Govt. over 9/11, they are so unbelievably gullible, that it truly beggars belief.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but...
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:24 pm
by NuneatonO's
Real Al wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 9:01 pm
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but...
So pleased that you find it funny. You prove my point entirely about the general dimness and apathy amongst so many people in society. It's really quite sad to see how people are so easily brainwashed into becoming automatons.
Just to say that you do not need to be considered a 'conspiracy theorist' when all you seek is truth rather than lies. Nor when you look for evidence; instead of cover-ups; including U.S. Govt. and N.I.S.T. bullsh!t.
Perhaps thousands of scientists, architects, civil airline pilots, NY first responders, etc. are just all conspiracy theorists too.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 9:46 pm
by The Mindsweep
NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 9:24 pm
Real Al wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 9:01 pm
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but...
So pleased that you find it funny. You prove my point entirely about the general dimness and apathy amongst so many people in society. It's really quite sad to see how people are so easily brainwashed into becoming automatons.
Just to say that you do not need to be considered a 'conspiracy theorist' when all you seek is truth rather than lies. Nor when you look for evidence; instead of cover-ups; including U.S. Govt. and N.I.S.T. bullsh!t.
Perhaps thousands of scientists, architects, civil airline pilots, NY first responders, etc. are just all conspiracy theorists too.
Where do I go for info so I'm not brainwashed please.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 10:14 pm
by NuneatonO's
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 10:32 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
I do find some of the measures enforced and masked by corona virus worrying and agree on the app. f*** installing that.
But things like YouTube are corporate platforms with a set of terms of service and duties regarding the information available. They aren’t restricting free speech any more than your work would stop you emailing the whole company your views on Islam. Positive or not.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 10:50 pm
by The Mindsweep
Just random sites by unknown sources. I can see why you take more credence in what they say. I find listening to the bloke down the pub is the best way to find out what's really going on.
Do yourself a favour mate and recognised that the web is filled with theories that can prove everything and anything. Picking a few like you have proves it
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 1:25 am
by The Mindsweep
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 2:16 am
by NuneatonO's
The Mindsweep wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:50 pm
Just random sites by unknown sources. I can see why you take more credence in what they say. I find listening to the bloke down the pub is the best way to find out what's really going on.
Do yourself a favour mate and recognised that the web is filled with theories that can prove everything and anything. Picking a few like you have proves it
Firstly, I'm not your mate.
Secondly, if you bothered to check the information upon those sites; which clearly you haven't bothered to do given your quick response; you'd note that many contributions are from notable experts within their particular industries.
Or for even more evidence of cover up, look no further than the U.S. Govt.-sponsored N.I.S.T. Report. It has been proven to be riddled with both omissions and fabrication.
Mindsweep? It certainly appears to have been.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 6:57 am
by The Mindsweep
Oh, go on them, why are they covering this stuff up? What's the agenda? Why should I be worried?
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:13 pm
by LagerTop
Ive followed Icke for a while. Read a couple of his books and went to one of his talks last year.
When I read the accusations of Holocaust Denial, Anti Semitism and right wing sympathies I just chuckle at how gullible people are at swallowing these lies. You have to question the motives of those who make these accusations. His underlying message is brotherhood of man and to love one another being the answer. Not many can really argue against that.
His books are a very very long read which puts people off for a start into finding it all out for themselves. The London Real interviews are magnificent and its a start into finding out his message. Its very scary to begin with but ends in hope.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 8:12 am
by LittleMate
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:32 am
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:48 am
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:36 am
It was David Icke, in his first book, published in 1998, who said former Prime Minister Edward Heath, was a child abuser, and had had the children he abused, murdered.
Ted Heath was still alive at this time, but he didn't sue.
Work out why he didn't for yourselves !
Because it was written by David Icke whom no one in their right mind would take seriously.
You cant dismiss it is easily as that. If you looked in Ickes books, many things he said in the 90's for which he was dismissed, have now come true, particularly his stuff on the environment.
You are obviously not a thinking person, and you dismiss every view, you dont agree with, rather than keep an open mind
If you think its nuts, then it must be eh?
With Icke - and others like him - is that they say so much that some stuff will be right or close to being right. The problem with him is that he says so much that is plainly not right. It seems that people like him are judged by a different standard. If he were a policeman, a politician or even a judge then you'd want him removed from his duties.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 9:19 am
by Disoriented
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:04 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:32 am
EH16 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:48 am
Because it was written by David Icke whom no one in their right mind would take seriously.
You cant dismiss it is easily as that. If you looked in Ickes books, many things he said in the 90's for which he was dismissed, have now come true, particularly his stuff on the environment.
You are obviously not a thinking person, and you dismiss every view, you dont agree with, rather than keep an open mind
If you think its nuts, then it must be eh?
Well said COYOs. A lot of the things that Icke had written and presented have to be taken with a pinch of salt and some of it is distasteful, but the environmental stuff that no one took seriously in the 90s is now not so far fetched.
Don't worry about the opinions of Disoriented he is so far up his own jacksy it untrue, he has always tried to discredit and ridicule anyone he doesn't agree with comes over as a horrible bitter sort of bloke who always has to have the final word.
I think you’ll find that holocaust denial does upset lots of people and that discrediting and ridiculing those who follow that view is a decent human thing to do. As well, will you accuse others like me who lost family members in the holocaust of being ‘bitter’?
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 9:48 am
by Top of the JES
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 9:19 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:04 pm
ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 11:32 am
You cant dismiss it is easily as that. If you looked in Ickes books, many things he said in the 90's for which he was dismissed, have now come true, particularly his stuff on the environment.
You are obviously not a thinking person, and you dismiss every view, you dont agree with, rather than keep an open mind
If you think its nuts, then it must be eh?
Well said COYOs. A lot of the things that Icke had written and presented have to be taken with a pinch of salt and some of it is distasteful, but the environmental stuff that no one took seriously in the 90s is now not so far fetched.
Don't worry about the opinions of Disoriented he is so far up his own jacksy it untrue, he has always tried to discredit and ridicule anyone he doesn't agree with comes over as a horrible bitter sort of bloke who always has to have the final word.
I think you’ll find that holocaust denial does upset lots of people and that discrediting and ridiculing those who follow that view is a decent human thing to do. As well, will you accuse others like me who lost family members in the holocaust of being ‘bitter’?
Don't even try and twist things in that direction, it has nothing to do with the holocaust in particular which was a horrible episode of history, I or no one else on this thread have said anything other. You just dismiss, patronise and ridicule people in general who have oppossing opinions on almost every thread you post on, you seem unable to hold a proper debate without insulting people.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 1:27 pm
by Disoriented
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 9:48 am
Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 9:19 am
Top of the JES wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:04 pm
Well said COYOs. A lot of the things that Icke had written and presented have to be taken with a pinch of salt and some of it is distasteful, but the environmental stuff that no one took seriously in the 90s is now not so far fetched.
Don't worry about the opinions of Disoriented he is so far up his own jacksy it untrue, he has always tried to discredit and ridicule anyone he doesn't agree with comes over as a horrible bitter sort of bloke who always has to have the final word.
I think you’ll find that holocaust denial does upset lots of people and that discrediting and ridiculing those who follow that view is a decent human thing to do. As well, will you accuse others like me who lost family members in the holocaust of being ‘bitter’?
Don't even try and twist things in that direction, it has nothing to do with the holocaust in particular which was a horrible episode of history, I or no one else on this thread have said anything other. You just dismiss, patronise and ridicule people in general who have oppossing opinions on almost every thread you post on, you seem unable to hold a proper debate without insulting people.
Terrible response - ‘twist things in that direction’!
It’s historical fact and Icke denies it.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 7:01 pm
by LagerTop
Can you quote Icke where he denies the Holocaust? Thats a new one to me.
Re: London Real TV
Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 7:20 pm
by Stowaway
The fact that there are people out there who believe anything said by a man who once went on national television and pronounced himself to be the son of God (he didn’t state which one, I admit) is proof enough for me that we have a considerable number of fruitcakes out there.
Lizard people, ffs.