Singing Embleton's name at the end

[RedDwarf 1881]

The players and staff are just going through the motions this season now, after seeing how shocking Stevenage were there’s no way we’re going down, players and staff are just turning up and collect their wage packet. Real lack of ambition from the very start this year, really hope the board make wholesale changes in the summer and start pushing us to league 1 because that’ll be the 4th year of the 5 year plan!

While I agree with that surely we need some momentum to take into next season . Even though we're probably safe from the drop our professional pride should mean we give every game 100% and try to win .

[tuffers#1]

He's our manager until the board decide otherwise . People showing their support for their manager and team is never embarrassing . Bizarre thing to say . However what I will agree with is Ross has to change his tactics and learn fast by his mistakes . Disappointing performance today but a quick chance to put things right on Tuesday .

I don’t understand what advice he gives the players when we go 1-0 up? ‘Right we’re winning now against one of the poorest teams in the league, sit back absorb the pressure and we’ll try see it out’. He’s useless, I’m sorry call me what you want he is not good enough to be in charge of a league football club.

Maybe we need bigger CUE CARDS .

[Joe_Mayo]

He's our manager until the board decide otherwise . People showing their support for their manager and team is never embarrassing . Bizarre thing to say . However what I will agree with is Ross has to change his tactics and learn fast by his mistakes . Disappointing performance today but a quick chance to put things right on Tuesday .

Ross played 3 strikers , so in his mind he was going for it. Problem was the players playing for a 1-0 and getting complacent.
Our main problem is that we have 3 sitters in midfield. Cisse has added a calmness in there but we are devoid of attacking nous in the middle. From memory Clay got forward twice and should have gone alone and had a crack at goal , but true to form he slowed down looked back and waited for support and passed the buck. Wright offered the same attacking threat i.e. zero.
That's where our problems lay and we just can't play Clay and Wright together as both have a safety first mentality.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

Who’s captain these days? Wright? Whoever it is should be accountable for taking that negative approach

[Writtlered]

Who’s captain these days? Wright? Whoever it is should be accountable for taking that negative approach

Cisse’s the only player I ever see actually talking on the field.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Who’s captain these days? Wright? Whoever it is should be accountable for taking that negative approach

Cisse’s the only player I ever see actually talking on the field.

Wright led them out but Coulson took the armband when he came on at half time.

But yeah, Cissé is absolutely the leader out there.

[Millennial Snowflake]

He's our manager until the board decide otherwise . People showing their support for their manager and team is never embarrassing . Bizarre thing to say . However what I will agree with is Ross has to change his tactics and learn fast by his mistakes . Disappointing performance today but a quick chance to put things right on Tuesday .

I don’t understand what advice he gives the players when we go 1-0 up? ‘Right we’re winning now against one of the poorest teams in the league, sit back absorb the pressure and we’ll try see it out’. He’s useless, I’m sorry call me what you want he is not good enough to be in charge of a league football club.

Why do fans still think the manager tells his players to sit deeper and deeper when defending a lead? Surely you’ve watched enough football by now to realise that the losing team has to go sh*t or bust and chuck more players forward, naturally pushing the other team back deeper

[Millennial Snowflake]

Poor isn't it. If there's a feeling of safety recall Ogie, play Kyprianou in CM and get whoever else looks promising on the bench in place of Dayton / Harrold / whoever else we won't give new contracts too. At least blood the youth rather than letting some go through the motions for no gain.

I'm going to agree with that. Even though the youth could get us relegated. So maybe only two at a time.

There has been some serious football mismanagement at the club.

Someone said next season is year 4 of the 5 year plan. What is the plan?

So could complacency if the players keep churning out performances like today. Once safety is assured, either via mathematics or by Macclesfield going bust personally I don't want to see any of the players we know won't be here next season taking up squad places apart from a last day farewell.

If Embleton doesn't give the youth a chance to get up to speed and make a case for themselves at that stage what's the point of the academy?

Academy products that have featured in the league this season:

Sotiriou
Happe
Judd
Sargent
Kyprianou

Academy players clearly in the manager’s plans:

Ogie
Sweeney

But yeah, “Ross/Ling hates da yOOf”

[Max B Gold]

Don’t doubt that but we were an astute buy as football clubs go.

Who for? Not the current owners.

A team consistently in league one who are in east London, a growing area for young professionals, who are in non-league?

Not really.

You haven't been keeping an eye on the numbers for the last 75 years. Have you?

[Thor]

He's our manager until the board decide otherwise . People showing their support for their manager and team is never embarrassing . Bizarre thing to say . However what I will agree with is Ross has to change his tactics and learn fast by his mistakes . Disappointing performance today but a quick chance to put things right on Tuesday .

Ross played 3 strikers , so in his mind he was going for it. Problem was the players playing for a 1-0 and getting complacent.
Our main problem is that we have 3 sitters in midfield. Cisse has added a calmness in there but we are devoid of attacking nous in the middle. From memory Clay got forward twice and should have gone alone and had a crack at goal , but true to form he slowed down looked back and waited for support and passed the buck. Wright offered the same attacking threat i.e. zero.
That's where our problems lay and we just can't play Clay and Wright together as both have a safety first mentality.

Not really, but sort of.

Today we played a team have not been getting paid on time or regular. A team who could not fill the bench today. Yet I saw them battle and fight for 95 mins and never gave up. Where was our fight? We should have rolled them over.

3 strikers, one man picks the team, one man sets his team up and one man settles and agrees on the pattern of play. That man moaned about them having men behind the ball, well in their position what did he expect? 7 of them hanging around the touchline getting away from the play and letting us just walk through them? To beat what they were doing wasn’t particularly hard nor needed much of an idea on how to do it, yet our man couldn’t work it out! A packed out central part of the pitch is screaming out for width, get the ball out wide quickly and stretch the play this opening up space in which to play through of create opportunities for crosses. Some on here moaned at JMD on here today saying he was poor, other than the three crosses he whipped over in the first half 10 min spell how many other times did we play him in? Give him the ball? Not many I can tell you. Yet he is our main chance creator, how shots did we have on target 1 maybe 2 from memory? How many chances did we create? Again 1 maybe 2.

You’re right about the creative midfield part though, clay did do well today, but he don’t shoot so won’t score goals nor does he create loads of chances. Wright well he's teachers pet and won’t be dropped anytime soon no matter how poorly he plays. Don’t worry though cos lings on the case!

[gshaw]

I'm going to agree with that. Even though the youth could get us relegated. So maybe only two at a time.

There has been some serious football mismanagement at the club.

Someone said next season is year 4 of the 5 year plan. What is the plan?

So could complacency if the players keep churning out performances like today. Once safety is assured, either via mathematics or by Macclesfield going bust personally I don't want to see any of the players we know won't be here next season taking up squad places apart from a last day farewell.

If Embleton doesn't give the youth a chance to get up to speed and make a case for themselves at that stage what's the point of the academy?

Academy products that have featured in the league this season:

Sotiriou
Happe
Judd
Sargent
Kyprianou

Academy players clearly in the manager’s plans:

Ogie
Sweeney

But yeah, “Ross/Ling hates da yOOf”

Loaned out and only played as last resort, proved Embleton wrong
Already an established pro under JE, doesn't count
Barely features, dropped immediately for Ling whenever possible
Only played due to injury, now dropped unlikely to return
Came in, played well, swiftly dropped for Embleton's favourite Clay

Played once, publicly criticised by Embleton, sent out on loan
Invisible Man to all intents and purposes

Yup Embleton really encouraging the youth there over his favourites. Club has lived on the quality of the group Edwards / Webb / Riza brought through who made progress at an accelerated rate due to the Beelzebub crisis. Let's see what return we get for the expensive academy roll call we have now with EPPP waiting in the wings to snap up any promising players for peanuts before they even turn 18.

[Thor]

Ross the boss bangs on his credentials for coaching kids, maybe he should go back to that? He does’t trust our youth players and that’s a fact, look at his stats to support my comment. Not all of them should play, but some of them should be trusted and given an opportunity to prove they are ready. I do beleive yesterday our opponents had a number of youngsters in the team and they performed admirably.

I’ll leave this here “you don’t win anything with kids and that’s the problem” said Alan Hanson on match of the day and that Man Utd team went on to win didn’t it? All because the master trusted those boys to be good enough. They more than repaid his trust.

[Millennial Snowflake]

So could complacency if the players keep churning out performances like today. Once safety is assured, either via mathematics or by Macclesfield going bust personally I don't want to see any of the players we know won't be here next season taking up squad places apart from a last day farewell.

If Embleton doesn't give the youth a chance to get up to speed and make a case for themselves at that stage what's the point of the academy?

Academy products that have featured in the league this season:

Sotiriou
Happe
Judd
Sargent
Kyprianou

Academy players clearly in the manager’s plans:

Ogie
Sweeney

But yeah, “Ross/Ling hates da yOOf”

Loaned out and only played as last resort, proved Embleton wrong
Already an established pro under JE, doesn't count
Barely features, dropped immediately for Ling whenever possible
Only played due to injury, now dropped unlikely to return
Came in, played well, swiftly dropped for Embleton's favourite Clay

Played once, publicly criticised by Embleton, sent out on loan
Invisible Man to all intents and purposes

Yup Embleton really encouraging the youth there over his favourites. Club has lived on the quality of the group Edwards / Webb / Riza brought through who made progress at an accelerated rate due to the Beelzebub crisis. Let's see what return we get for the expensive academy roll call we have now with EPPP waiting in the wings to snap up any promising players for peanuts before they even turn 18.

Or maybe he was sent out on loan to gain first-team experience, proved he was ready, we showed faith in him and he’s done the business. Wasn’t it CF who sent him out on loan anyway?

That’s such ridiculous moving of the goalposts I’m not even gonna bother with that one

You have to earn your place in the team and Judd hasn’t done that. Coming from the academy doesn’t give you the divine right to start every game

He was dropped as Vigouroux is a better keeper. Wait weren’t you and many others calling for him to be dropped a few weeks ago as he was making too many errors, now you’re moaning that he’s not playing as he’s one of our own?!

Kyprianou is 18 ffs and you’re upset that he isn’t starting every week? Show Clay a bit of respect

Ogie and Sweeney are also both 18 and are (or recently have been) out on loan getting playing experience. What’s the problem? Where did Ross publicly criticise Ogie please

[Thor]

After he cost us a goal in the Mickey Mouse cup, he slaughtered him. Yet the week or so before he defended thesamling after Dickson told the truth and made the radio show apologise. Double standards I’m afraid.

[OyinbO]

The same old arse lickers who think he’s god cos they think he’s their mate.

In all my many years of going to the match, I can't ever remember a reaction like yesterday's to our breaking the deadlock - a lukewarm wash of relief going around most of the crowd, with a small knot of fans up in one corner immediately singing the manager's name.

This club has many nettles to grasp. The well-meaning attempts to improve fan engagement have led to certain voices being disproportionately amplified, and this unhelpfully creates a dynamic for a pollyanna tendency to cheerlead to protect their meagre levels of access / exclusivity.

Thankfully, Teague and Travis are too clear-headed and savvy to let this persist for too long. But next season's prospects are now at risk, and with every week that goes by with Ling & Embleton still in position, our chances of promotion next season get dimmer. And the club needs to take a leaf out of Travis' book, by encouraging constructive criticism rather than allowing sycophants, thugs, slimy racists and halfwits to have influence.

[OyinbO]

I see that Embleton's brother has now joined his wife in the ranks of those who cannot accept criticism of the manager.

You know, I get it - of course you're going to stick up for someone you love, who is trying their best. But the best way to handle the situation - in everyone's interest - is to get the guy out of the firing line. He ain't up to it, and it's not good for his career to risk wrecking his reputation like this.

But I guess if your whole schtick is around getting a little reflected kudos because your brother fluked a managerial job at a fourth division football club, then you're gonna be a bit reluctant to face up to that.

I feel sorry for Ross, he's sticking it out because so many hangers-on need to him to in order to preserve their own status.

[The Big Shot]

So could complacency if the players keep churning out performances like today. Once safety is assured, either via mathematics or by Macclesfield going bust personally I don't want to see any of the players we know won't be here next season taking up squad places apart from a last day farewell.

If Embleton doesn't give the youth a chance to get up to speed and make a case for themselves at that stage what's the point of the academy?

Academy products that have featured in the league this season:

Sotiriou
Happe
Judd
Sargent
Kyprianou

Academy players clearly in the manager’s plans:

Ogie
Sweeney

But yeah, “Ross/Ling hates da yOOf”

Loaned out and only played as last resort, proved Embleton wrong
Already an established pro under JE, doesn't count
Barely features, dropped immediately for Ling whenever possible
Only played due to injury, now dropped unlikely to return
Came in, played well, swiftly dropped for Embleton's favourite Clay

Played once, publicly criticised by Embleton, sent out on loan
Invisible Man to all intents and purposes

Yup Embleton really encouraging the youth there over his favourites. Club has lived on the quality of the group Edwards / Webb / Riza brought through who made progress at an accelerated rate due to the Beelzebub crisis. Let's see what return we get for the expensive academy roll call we have now with EPPP waiting in the wings to snap up any promising players for peanuts before they even turn 18.

Have to say I think you're being overly cynical here for the sake of it here, both Sotiriou and Kyprianou have both been used by Ross this season and been given a chance and both have taken it - You can't expect an 18 year old in Kyprianou to come in and hold the midfielder together at his age in a struggling team, which was why Cisse another holding midfielder was brought in.

Sending out Sotiriou on loan has paid off beause he was able to play games and demonstrate what he could do and Ross gave him a chance - besides it was Fletcher whom decided to loan him to Dover in the first place.

Ogie is the only whom I'm suprised wasn't given more of a chance I'll agree on that.

You also can't expect a whole group of youngsters to come into the team all at once - we saw what happened in 2016/17 season and how that ended up.

[KC & sunshine band]

dad dad did you hear them singing my name, did yer did yer, dad did you hear them singing , did yer dad

Uncle martin ruffled me hair, and granddad Nigel gave me pocket money, and even Dave interviewed me after

Ive got so many friends everyone likes me except for them nasties Webb and Fletcher but Uncle and Grandad soon sorted them out

My ambition is to be the longest serving manager Leyton orient have ever had

dad dad tell me you heard them singing my name, please tell me you heard it dad

[Chief crazy horse]

Embarrassing

Absolutely.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

The same old arse lickers who think he’s god cos they think he’s their mate.

In all my many years of going to the match, I can't ever remember a reaction like yesterday's to our breaking the deadlock - a lukewarm wash of relief going around most of the crowd, with a small knot of fans up in one corner immediately singing the manager's name.

This club has many nettles to grasp. The well-meaning attempts to improve fan engagement have led to certain voices being disproportionately amplified, and this unhelpfully creates a dynamic for a pollyanna tendency to cheerlead to protect their meagre levels of access / exclusivity.

Thankfully, Teague and Travis are too clear-headed and savvy to let this persist for too long. But next season's prospects are now at risk, and with every week that goes by with Ling & Embleton still in position, our chances of promotion next season get dimmer. And the club needs to take a leaf out of Travis' book, by encouraging constructive criticism rather than allowing sycophants, thugs, slimy racists and halfwits to have influence.

I think I love you.

But seriously, couldn’t agree more. And to make it worse the sycophants are either in denial or are truly blinded by their access to see that they are biased. Add to that, they mainly take the higher ground.

The sad thing is that the whole club doesn’t feel as one. I really can’t see much success on the pitch in the near future due to our set up, and with our fanbase so divided.

[EastDerehamO]

I guess I start from the position that people pay their money and are entitled to voice their opinions, so singing for Ross is ok.

I think most of the fans, including those of us who doubt he’s up the job, still like him, and I’d love him to prove us doubters wrong.

I fear we at best will survive next season, for I don’t really expect us to be challenging under him. At some point T&T will act if that situation perpetuates – wouldn’t like to say when, but I’m not holding my breath for it being this season - for I suspect that they will not see that is an acceptable situation going forwards.

[Thor]

We will not be challenging any season with Ross the dross at the helm, we will stay little old Leyton orient and go nowhere whilst all the time poor old Danny is going to have to extract more and more from the select few hoping to get closer to balancing the books.

Why don’t we give Danny a product on the pitch that matches his off the pitch stuff? Cos getting people to spend money when they are happy is far easier than when they are unhappy.

[The Big Shot]

I've sung Ross Embletons name all season - Not because I think he's the right man for the job, but because I want to support him, especially after last summers tragic events.

Is this an acceptable thing to do? Do I need permission from people on here to be able to do that?

[tuffers#1]

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[Max B Gold]

I've sung Ross Embletons name all season - Not because I think he's the right man for the job, but because I want to support him, especially after last summers tragic events.

Is this an acceptable thing to do? Do I need permission from people on here to be able to do that?

I wouldn't have thought so.