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Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:11 pm**

redintheface wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:02 pm
Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:17 pm He is fantastically average. A nothing player who gets the odd tap-in. I’d be disappointed if we land him.
55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.
Based on those stats I would agree with you!

And so would i . Get Danny Johnson in the building .

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:19 pm**

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:17 pm He is fantastically average. A nothing player who gets the odd tap-in. I’d be disappointed if we land him.
55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.

To Date 167 appearances in all competitions

60 goals

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:30 pm**

I was also beginning to think that this might be a decent signing, but it seems our Scottish correspondent has put the kibosh on those thoughts, somewhat.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:23 pm**

Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:30 pm I was also beginning to think that this might be a decent signing, but it seems our Scottish correspondent has put the kibosh on those thoughts, somewhat.

After Motherwell he went to Dundee in July 2019 and hasn't hit it off there. Most of his goals are at NL or below.

He's had various opportunities at Middlesboro, Cardiff, Hartlepools, Stevenage, Tranmere, Motherwell etc to break into League football and hasn't done so.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:43 pm**

Constanza wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:19 pm Do we call him Magic or Boris?

Or maybe Ulrika. If his scoring form is as good as hers I'll be happy.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:58 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:23 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:30 pm I was also beginning to think that this might be a decent signing, but it seems our Scottish correspondent has put the kibosh on those thoughts, somewhat.
After Motherwell he went to Dundee in July 2019 and hasn't hit it off there. Most of his goals are at NL or below.

He's had various opportunities at Middlesboro, Cardiff, Hartlepools, Stevenage, Tranmere, Motherwell etc to break into League football and hasn't done so.

Yep, sounds like a reasonable explanation.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:20 pm**

Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:17 pm He is fantastically average. A nothing player who gets the odd tap-in. I’d be disappointed if we land him.
55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.

Did you take off all the goals he scored as a substitute, or are you massaging the “goals in starts” figures a tad? He’s a good enough Conference player. Perhaps he’ll do a job if we end up back there.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:39 pm**

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:20 pm
Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:17 pm He is fantastically average. A nothing player who gets the odd tap-in. I’d be disappointed if we land him.
55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.
Did you take off all the goals he scored as a substitute, or are you massaging the “goals in starts” figures a tad? He’s a good enough Conference player. Perhaps he’ll do a job if we end up back there.

I remember this player we signed a few years he was called Macauley Bonne had scored 8 goals in 78 appearances
Johnson’s appearances for Dundee and Motherwell average him a goal every 3 games
Last time i looked neither of those teams play in the National League
And what do subs appearances have to do with scoring goals ?

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:46 pm**

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:20 pm
Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:17 pm He is fantastically average. A nothing player who gets the odd tap-in. I’d be disappointed if we land him.
55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.
Did you take off all the goals he scored as a substitute, or are you massaging the “goals in starts” figures a tad? He’s a good enough Conference player. Perhaps he’ll do a job if we end up back there.

I clearly stated the sub appearances, even if you take those into account he's better than a goal every three games which is very decent. You only have to go back to the Gateshead cup games in 2018 to realise your odd tap in comment is really rather silly, good runs into the box and tidy finishes.

Not sure exactly who you think we could get that would be better?

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:20 pm**

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:39 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:20 pm
Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm

55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.
Did you take off all the goals he scored as a substitute, or are you massaging the “goals in starts” figures a tad? He’s a good enough Conference player. Perhaps he’ll do a job if we end up back there.
I remember this player we signed a few years he was called Macauley Bonne had scored 8 goals in 78 appearances
Johnson’s appearances for Dundee and Motherwell average him a goal every 3 games
Last time i looked neither of those teams play in the National League
And what do subs appearances have to do with scoring goals ?

Blimey, you've got a good memory. I'd forgotten all about him.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:27 pm**

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:39 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:20 pm
Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm

55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.
Did you take off all the goals he scored as a substitute, or are you massaging the “goals in starts” figures a tad? He’s a good enough Conference player. Perhaps he’ll do a job if we end up back there.
I remember this player we signed a few years he was called Macauley Bonne had scored 8 goals in 78 appearances
Johnson’s appearances for Dundee and Motherwell average him a goal every 3 games
Last time i looked neither of those teams play in the National League
And what do subs appearances have to do with scoring goals ?

Bonne’s all-round game far eclipses Johnson’s. He’s a tap-in merchant. Not a problem if he’s as good at it as Carl Griffiths. We’ll see.

Ps. He’s actually averaging 1-in-4 in Scotland.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:31 pm**

Signed 18 month contract

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:33 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:23 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:30 pm I was also beginning to think that this might be a decent signing, but it seems our Scottish correspondent has put the kibosh on those thoughts, somewhat.
After Motherwell he went to Dundee in July 2019 and hasn't hit it off there. Most of his goals are at NL or below.

He's had various opportunities at Middlesboro, Cardiff, Hartlepools, Stevenage, Tranmere, Motherwell etc to break into League football and hasn't done so.

He was 21 when he last played in the Football League, seems to have matured a lot since then. Hilarious that you use his time as a kid against him as well.

As Angol and Wilkinson are clearly on first-choice wages, this is probably a good a signing as we could have hoped for. Strong record at a lower level and coming into his prime, clearly the club thinks that’s worth a gamble. We were never gonna break the bank and sign someone with an exceptional scoring record at this level.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:33 pm**

Johnsons scored something like 16 goals in 2 seasons in Scotland - Worth a punt for sure, especially with his record at Gateshead and he's 26.

People like Chief Crazy Horse need to understand that in January you aren't going to get the top quality signings unless you pay money or are doing well in your league.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:37 pm**

Top of the JES wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:46 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:20 pm
Top of the West. wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:00 pm

55 Goals in his last 101 League starts at Gateshead, 44 in 78 Motherwell 6 in 12 and Dunde 5 in 11 been on the bench almost 50 times too.

Not sure where we are going to find better.
Did you take off all the goals he scored as a substitute, or are you massaging the “goals in starts” figures a tad? He’s a good enough Conference player. Perhaps he’ll do a job if we end up back there.
I clearly stated the sub appearances, even if you take those into account he's better than a goal every three games which is very decent. You only have to go back to the Gateshead cup games in 2018 to realise your odd tap in comment is really rather silly, good runs into the box and tidy finishes.

Not sure exactly who you think we could get that would be better?

Virtually all of his goals have come at the level below this one. Some players can make the step up to league football, and some decidedly can’t. I’m of the opinion that he can’t. IMHO he’ll look like Dan Holman did in our first year down the rabbit hole.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:37 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:53 am Would mean Ruel goes down the pecking order

COYOS: why haven't we signed a striker? Ling is clueless!

Also COYOS: why are we signing a striker? It'll mean our inexperienced youngster plays a bit less! FFS Ling!

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:38 pm**

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:33 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:23 pm
Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:30 pm I was also beginning to think that this might be a decent signing, but it seems our Scottish correspondent has put the kibosh on those thoughts, somewhat.
After Motherwell he went to Dundee in July 2019 and hasn't hit it off there. Most of his goals are at NL or below.

He's had various opportunities at Middlesboro, Cardiff, Hartlepools, Stevenage, Tranmere, Motherwell etc to break into League football and hasn't done so.
He was 21 when he last played in the Football League, seems to have matured a lot since then. Hilarious that you use his time as a kid against him as well.

As Angol and Wilkinson are clearly on first-choice wages, this is probably a good a signing as we could have hoped for. Strong record at a lower level and coming into his prime, clearly the club thinks that’s worth a gamble. We were never gonna break the bank and sign someone with an exceptional scoring record at this level.

He never made it in the Football League despite many opportunities is my point. If that is using his youth against him then fine but you're telling me he was 21 so hardly a youth.

He didn't make it in Scotland and Championship Dundee are delighted to let him go 5 months into the season.

Anyway he's here now so good luck to him. But why he got an 18 month contract is beyond my comprehension.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:49 pm**

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:38 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:33 pm
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:23 pm

After Motherwell he went to Dundee in July 2019 and hasn't hit it off there. Most of his goals are at NL or below.

He's had various opportunities at Middlesboro, Cardiff, Hartlepools, Stevenage, Tranmere, Motherwell etc to break into League football and hasn't done so.
He was 21 when he last played in the Football League, seems to have matured a lot since then. Hilarious that you use his time as a kid against him as well.

As Angol and Wilkinson are clearly on first-choice wages, this is probably a good a signing as we could have hoped for. Strong record at a lower level and coming into his prime, clearly the club thinks that’s worth a gamble. We were never gonna break the bank and sign someone with an exceptional scoring record at this level.
He never made it in the Football League despite many opportunities is my point. If that is using his youth against him then fine but you're telling me he was 21 so hardly a youth.

He didn't make it in Scotland and Championship Dundee are delighted to let him go 5 months into the season.

Anyway he's here now so good luck to him. But why he got an 18 month contract is beyond my comprehension.

He wasn't ready for League football when he was 17/18 (at Boro/Hartlepool), that's hardly an indicator of his current level is what I'm saying. He was 21 when he last played in League 2 (Stevenage/Tranmere) - 21 is still very young for most footballers. I think he'll have developed a lot since then, so again I wouldn't take 2 short loan spells 5 years ago as strong evidence that he won't make it with us.

Who would you have liked us to sign?

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:50 pm**

THE STRIKER HAS PENNED AN 18-MONTH DEAL.

https://www.leytonorient.com/2020/01/27 ... y-johnson/

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:53 pm**

Welcome Danny - let’s give the lad a chance - natural goalscorers can just score so let’s hope L2 not a step too far - we really are a miserable bunch - more pedigree than Alabi and Harold for scoring goals !

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:07 pm**

Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:27 pm
Lucky7 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:39 pm
Kitch’s Magic Toes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:20 pm

Did you take off all the goals he scored as a substitute, or are you massaging the “goals in starts” figures a tad? He’s a good enough Conference player. Perhaps he’ll do a job if we end up back there.
Thanks for the confirmation that your blowing out your Rolf

I remember this player we signed a few years he was called Macauley Bonne had scored 8 goals in 78 appearances
Johnson’s appearances for Dundee and Motherwell average him a goal every 3 games
Last time i looked neither of those teams play in the National League
And what do subs appearances have to do with scoring goals ?
Bonne’s all-round game far eclipses Johnson’s. He’s a tap-in merchant. Not a problem if he’s as good at it as Carl Griffiths. We’ll see.

Ps. He’s actually averaging 1-in-4 in Scotland.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:09 pm**

Welcome Danny

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:20 pm**

Yes , welcome to Orient Danny . I hope we get to see him play a part in tomorrow's night game. I have to say I'm happy with our transfer business so far during this window . I just think we could do with another LB to challenge Widdowson if we're not going to play Sweeney at the moment . Brophy can then go back to LW. Surely we've got to put square pegs in to square holes to get the best out of the squad .

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:25 pm**

Let’s hope he proves the doubters wrong.

Posted: **Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:27 pm**

Welcome Danny, slight trade up on Alabi

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