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Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:06 pm
by Redcard
I didn’t notice on the night but from the video it looks like Sotiriou pushed Dayton who had hold of the Northampton player forcing them to the ground.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:37 pm
by Urbane Vancelo
Why wasn't Wright getting the ball out of the back of the net, seeing as it was the 85th minute? No, he was off doing a glory mudslide after scoring a penalty! Congratulations.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:48 pm
by eagwgw
Probably reflects the mentality that a point would have been a good point before the match.

If Wright had it in his mind that once he scored he had to get the ball back on the centre-spot, none of the resultant fights would have happened, as the defender would have been nowhere near.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:49 pm
by Eat The Rich
Harsh penalty. The lad was clearly nudged in mid-air although he had badly mistimed his jump anyway. If it had robbed us of a valuable win I'd have been fuming as well BUT its always the risk when you try to grind out a narrow win. If you sit deep and try to soak up pressure there's always the chance that eventually the pressure will tell.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:52 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
Urbane Vancelo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:37 pm Why wasn't Wright getting the ball out of the back of the net, seeing as it was the 85th minute? No, he was off doing a glory mudslide after scoring a penalty! Congratulations.
Yep, this is spot on.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:53 pm
by Ronnie Hotdogs
eagwgw wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:48 pm Probably reflects the mentality that a point would have been a good point before the match.

If Wright had it in his mind that once he scored he had to get the ball back on the centre-spot, none of the resultant fights would have happened, as the defender would have been nowhere near.
Gotta cup your ear to the South Stand boo boys then do a knee slide first, innit.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:59 pm
by Tent Keague
After the ref blew up immediately for the penalty he then took an absolute age to determine whether it was the right decision and stood over the ball with his hand to his ear piece.

I really thought he was gonna change his mind.

The fact he didn't even book the player in my mind shows that I think he knew it was the wrong decision, or he got told it was the wrong decision.

Can anyone on here explain what alternative he could have given after blowing up and pointing to the spot? Drop ball to Northampton? Indirect free kick to the O's? I dunno.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:03 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Tent Keague wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:59 pm After the ref blew up immediately for the penalty he then took an absolute age to determine whether it was the right decision and stood over the ball with his hand to his ear piece.

I really thought he was gonna change his mind.

The fact he didn't even book the player in my mind shows that I think he knew it was the wrong decision, or he got told it was the wrong decision.

Can anyone on here explain what alternative he could have given after blowing up and pointing to the spot? Drop ball to Northampton? Indirect free kick to the O's? I dunno.
Why did he need to book the Northampton player?

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:07 pm
by Tent Keague
Because it was a handball that stopped a goal scoring opportunity about 6 yards from goal.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:21 pm
by Thor
The law that is in pace now says that if the ball hits any part of the arm in the penalty area and the arm is not in a natural position and that the extension changes the players silhouette it’s a penalty. No off buts or maybes. That’s why you now see a lot of players put their arms behind there backs held together so they can’t be hit by the ball in the area.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:25 pm
by Lucky7
Urbane Vancelo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:37 pm Why wasn't Wright getting the ball out of the back of the net, seeing as it was the 85th minute? No, he was off doing a glory mudslide after scoring a penalty! Congratulations.
Good point

To busy doing his celebration

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:27 pm
by Lucky7
Thor wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 3:21 pm The law that is in pace now says that if the ball hits any part of the arm in the penalty area and the arm is not in a natural position and that the extension changes the players silhouette it’s a penalty. No off buts or maybes. That’s why you now see a lot of players put their arms behind there backs held together so they can’t be hit by the ball in the area.
Did you get that out of a magazine in one of your many tat piles Gilso

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:25 pm
by Ornchurch
Tent Keague wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:07 pm Because it was a handball that stopped a goal scoring opportunity about 6 yards from goal.
I don't think that you can call a cross in to a crowded penalty box a goalscoring opportunity. :lol:

It was hardly an open goal or a one on one.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:28 pm
by Tent Keague
It was a 2 on 1. If the guy don't head or handball it, it's dropping straight to JMD or Sotiriou?

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:06 pm
by Smendrick Feaselberg
Tent Keague wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:07 pm Because it was a handball that stopped a goal scoring opportunity about 6 yards from goal.
It wasn't deliberate and the ref isn't going to give the penalty/penalise the player in that circumstance for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity. The penalty given was for handball, which though accidental was still handball, and therefore penalty and no card was the right call.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:24 pm
by Grahamorient
I find it hard to believe that the aggro after the penalty only lasted 3 mins if it was the 85th minute...only 8 mins extra time played.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:15 am
by Adz
For the sending off like like someone else (orient player) pushed dayton in the back causing them both to go down. Wonder if we'll appeal that

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:49 am
by LittleMate
I like Sotirou's spirit in this incident. The least experienced player on the park and far from the biggest physically - he's right in amongst it. That's the spirit of a winner IMO.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:15 am
by EliotNes
Urbane Vancelo wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:37 pm Why wasn't Wright getting the ball out of the back of the net, seeing as it was the 85th minute? No, he was off doing a glory mudslide after scoring a penalty! Congratulations.
I thought this too. If it had been a goal from open play maybe that celebration was justified but like u I’d rather he had gone and got the ball from the net and as captain on the field run with it back to the centre circle and told the rest of the team come on we can win this now.

Re: Orient’s Penalty

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:52 am
by Ronnie Hotdogs
LittleMate wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:49 am I like Sotirou's spirit in this incident. The least experienced player on the park and far from the biggest physically - he's right in amongst it. That's the spirit of a winner IMO.
Absolutely this.

He's definitely got the right minerals.