Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:15 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:56 am Which to me is yet more evidence that the money's run out...

If the money has "run out" (whatever that means) then we'd go with just what we have for the rest of the season.

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:15 pm

kokomO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:56 am Which to me is yet more evidence that the money's run out...

If the money has "run out" (whatever that means) then we'd go with just what we have for the rest of the season.

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:15 pm

If the money has "run out" (whatever that means) then we'd go with just what we have for the rest of the season.

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

Tent Keague wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:40 pm I take the point about wastage within the budget. That's probably nailed it.

But I'm sure I read that half the clubs in this division have a Director of Football.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:15 pm

If the money has "run out" (whatever that means) then we'd go with just what we have for the rest of the season.

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:25 pm Imagine being Ruel Sotiriou, working your nads off, going out on loan back to non-league to get some games (and goals), coming back and still not being used, finally getting 90 minutes at left f*cking midfield, scoring goals still, then hearing about this.

It has to be bullshit. If it's genuine, we are more clueless than I could possibly imagine. The only thing that makes me believe it could be true is it's a relative of one of Lingy's mates so would fit.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:57 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

Fair enough.

In which case sounds like we've used up our budget, not run out of money.

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:57 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

Fair enough.

In which case sounds like we've used up our budget, not run out of money.

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:28 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

I doubt the club are contributing towards Gormans salary as Flynn clearly wanted to sign him. Alabi on the other hand, perhaps the club are contributing.

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:28 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

I doubt the club are contributing towards Gormans salary as Flynn clearly wanted to sign him. Alabi on the other hand, perhaps the club are contributing.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:57 pm

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:28 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

I doubt the club are contributing towards Gormans salary as Flynn clearly wanted to sign him. Alabi on the other hand, perhaps the club are contributing.

Pure speculation, of course.

Can’t argue that his salary for the previous 18 months also counts as wastage, tho.

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:08 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:47 pm

Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:49 pm

We haven’t scored from open play for almost 360 mins ( Sotoriou v Newport )
Even One Goal would give us a chance but negative tactics are costing us.

Are. goals from open play worth more than ones that arent ?

Ludicrous statement.

Only thing that’s Ludicrous is that you can’t seem to understand the point that we are being set up so negatively that we haven’t scored a goal, apart from the penalty last week for nearly FOUR games. It’s no wonder that we’re struggling so badly.
To set up at home against a team as poor as Grimsby with just One up front is also Ludicrous

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:57 pm

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:28 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

I doubt the club are contributing towards Gormans salary as Flynn clearly wanted to sign him. Alabi on the other hand, perhaps the club are contributing.

Pure speculation, of course.

Can’t argue that his salary for the previous 18 months also counts as wastage, tho.

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:15 pm

If the money has "run out" (whatever that means) then we'd go with just what we have for the rest of the season.

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:08 pm 2 pages on a rumour from the other board

RedO wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:39 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Smendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:15 pm

If the money has "run out" (whatever that means) then we'd go with just what we have for the rest of the season.

Don’t think that statement is true. What is more likely is the club is being run to a budget and it’s right that it is respected otherwise we end up in all sorts of financial trouble. We got to within a penalty kick of the championship without spending one penny on that team in transfer fees.

We need decisive leadership on the training ground and I’d love to have been a fly on the wall yesterday as Ross the boss showed his first signs of emotion and anger. Hopefully a rocket was duly delivered along with a few home truths and that will lay down a marker that he really is the boss and not their mate.

No one is suggesting you have to go out and spend money on transfer fees.

I’m sure our budget is reasonable enough. I would imagine the issue is amount of wastage within that figure. No other club has a DoF to finance. We have given out contract extensions to several ageing players, some of whom have not featured at all. We have had to stump up God knows how much of a head coach’s 18 month contract for just 5 weeks of work. We have very probably had to contribute to Gorman and Alabis future salaries to get them off our wage bill.

Given this level of wastage, it’s not surprising if the money has ‘run out’.

eagwgw wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:58 am Back to the kid, Millwall seem to upload entire U23 games onto their Youtube.

The kid has been scoring loads in the U23 leagues, but then again Levi Lumeka was scoring lots in them, and look what happened to him... I am sure the standard is way below even that of the National League and a look at the games shows that they are all played without the kind of intensity real competitive games are played with. So it could be that it may come as a shock.

He seems a different type of striker to Gary, not really a target man, but quicker and harder working. So, seems a bit different to what we have, but is he any better than Sotiriou?