Independent Leyton Orient Forum

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:57 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:51 pm Ross & Martin Lings shopping list...........A new Manager and a new no 2 coach.

They wont do anything with conference level players Sid .

We need better players.

Not coaches trying to make silk purses out of pigs ears.

faith1234 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:24 am Look people it doesnt matter who we get in on the transfer window i still wont help the team we need a manager in place first before we sign any new players

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:23 am Goalkeeper is a certainty whether permanent or on loan. The George Marsh situation will be clarified one way or the other. If he goes then another CM will be a must. George Alexander in from Millwall on loan and James Alabi out to Boreham Wood until season end.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:50 am

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:23 am Goalkeeper is a certainty whether permanent or on loan. The George Marsh situation will be clarified one way or the other. If he goes then another CM will be a must. George Alexander in from Millwall on loan and James Alabi out to Boreham Wood until season end.

The boreham wood centre forward is earning good reviews, goals scored, shot conversion and he's young, hopefully mr foster has had him watched.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:55 am Err I'd the scouting team think hes good enough sign him up. He is scoring lots of goals a commodity our forwards are struggling with. On top of that all his stats are good and he is young so if he trains o their is a potential trial return on investment as well.

It's time we looked for further hidden gems, like we got with Bonne for example.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:00 pm Speculate to accumulate isn't that the saying? Peterborough have been doing it for years, for sure they dont all work out, but hopefully you have more punts go right than wrong.

On another note Brentford have two players being looked at right now by premier league clubs, 1 is valued at £30m and the other was I think £25m both will return massive R.O.I if they are sold.

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:05 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:00 pm Speculate to accumulate isn't that the saying? Peterborough have been doing it for years, for sure they dont all work out, but hopefully you have more punts go right than wrong.

On another note Brentford have two players being looked at right now by premier league clubs, 1 is valued at £30m and the other was I think £25m both will return massive R.O.I if they are sold.

Seems our method is plough it all into the youth setup and get a nice warm community feeling when they scoot off to a Championship side

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:06 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:05 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:00 pm Speculate to accumulate isn't that the saying? Peterborough have been doing it for years, for sure they dont all work out, but hopefully you have more punts go right than wrong.

On another note Brentford have two players being looked at right now by premier league clubs, 1 is valued at £30m and the other was I think £25m both will return massive R.O.I if they are sold.

Seems our method is plough it all into the youth setup and get a nice warm community feeling when they scoot off to a Championship side

Seems to be the case.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:46 am Elliott Osbourne at Stockport is earning really good reviews, midfielder decent amount of goals and assists and at 23 is a good age with plenty of sell on potential.

It's for others to scout and decide if hes what we need or require.

banqo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:42 am Dagenhams Elliott Justham as the goalkeeper wouldn't be a surprise.

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:50 am

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:23 am Goalkeeper is a certainty whether permanent or on loan. The George Marsh situation will be clarified one way or the other. If he goes then another CM will be a must. George Alexander in from Millwall on loan and James Alabi out to Boreham Wood until season end.

The boreham wood centre forward is earning good reviews, goals scored, shot conversion and he's young, hopefully mr foster has had him watched.

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:10 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:57 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:51 pm Ross & Martin Lings shopping list...........A new Manager and a new no 2 coach.

They wont do anything with conference level players Sid .

We need better players.

Not coaches trying to make silk purses out of pigs ears.

Much the same situation and much the same squad of players that were near to the bottom of the National League, then Justin was appointed as Manager and look what happened after !

Article_50 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:23 pm Ross & Martin Lings shopping list...………………… A new fecking job !

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:09 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:10 am

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:57 pm

They wont do anything with conference level players Sid .

We need better players.

Not coaches trying to make silk purses out of pigs ears.

Much the same situation and much the same squad of players that were near to the bottom of the National League, then Justin was appointed as Manager and look what happened after !

Yup Sid

JE won promotion & then dropped dead ( GRHS).

He would be clearing out players now if he was still here if they were performing this badly.

Dont think it would of been easy even for JE .
Remember his good start at Gillingham was followed by a poor run which led to
The sack. Teams can fall apart for any reason.

Article_50 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:23 pm Ross & Martin Lings shopping list...………………… A new fecking job !

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:27 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:09 pm

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:10 am

Much the same situation and much the same squad of players that were near to the bottom of the National League, then Justin was appointed as Manager and look what happened after !

Yup Sid

JE won promotion & then dropped dead ( GRHS).

He would be clearing out players now if he was still here if they were performing this badly.

Dont think it would of been easy even for JE .
Remember his good start at Gillingham was followed by a poor run which led to
The sack. Teams can fall apart for any reason.

My point being that many players under-perform, then perk up when a better manager comes to the club, its called a new manager bounce !
Already happening at West Ham and Watford and also Arsenal played well yesterday under their new manager. I fell sure that with a decent new manager in charge, the Os players would perform better. Ross does not fit the bill, he has had three goes at doing the job now as a Interim Manager and not done the business, he also seems a bit weak in making some senior players into undropables ! If Ross continues in the job till end of the season, regardless of what new players may come in, on recent form alone, big chance of us being relegated. I think you know this, you seem to be a bright guy and perhaps like swimming against the tide of general opinion on here because you like winding people up !!

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:56 pm If Marv and Angol leave than we’ll need another new striker and centre Back