Independent Leyton Orient Forum

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:54 am Ive been saying for a long time now, the club isnt being run well..........and most of you slaughtered me for saying it. what a turnaround, as most are now saying the same thing..
I think the board are hopeful that because of Burys demise, that we can avoid the one relegation spot, and then bring in a manager in the summer, ready for next season. This may work, but it is very risky as we may finish bottom.
I cant see any permanent buys coming in , in January either...maybe a loan
We need about 7 more wins to keep up, and I wouldnt bet on us even winning one game at the moment

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:54 am Ive been saying for a long time now, the club isnt being run well..........and most of you slaughtered me for saying it. what a turnaround, as most are now saying the same thing..

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:09 pm

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:54 am Ive been saying for a long time now, the club isnt being run well..........and most of you slaughtered me for saying it. what a turnaround, as most are now saying the same thing..
I think the board are hopeful that because of Burys demise, that we can avoid the one relegation spot, and then bring in a manager in the summer, ready for next season. This may work, but it is very risky as we may finish bottom.
I cant see any permanent buys coming in , in January either...maybe a loan
We need about 7 more wins to keep up, and I wouldnt bet on us even winning one game at the moment

But you were wrong for a long time. It's not that you've been right all along and now more people can see it. What has happened is that the circumstances have changed, due to the death of the manager. Since then there have been some football-related decisions that some, even many, have disagreed with.

Please don't go round thinking that you are some source of all wisdom, and now the masses are enlightened.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:16 am I've said it 3 times, as it turns out.

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:15 am I've said it before and I'll say it again- the squad needs breaking up if we are every going to be able to move on. We need some fresh blood and ideas who were not close to the club before the events of the summer.

Howling Mad Murdock wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:57 pm

Red_Army wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:15 am I've said it before and I'll say it again- the squad needs breaking up if we are every going to be able to move on. We need some fresh blood and ideas who were not close to the club before the events of the summer.

That's what Fletch wanted to do,wasn't it?

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:46 pm The problem is that Embleton and some senior players that knew they were on the chopping board underminned Fletcher from day one and pushed for his ousting. If a new manager comes in they are being forced to work under the same circumstances as the owners want to keep the same coaching team in place and don't want to move on the senior players that are not up to it. Embleton is too close to these senior players. We have a number of players in the squad that appear to be undropable. I suppose we as fans have to take some responsibility too as our expectations have been totally unrealistic for our first year back in the league. Just think back, this team was playing horrible football for many months at the end of last season and we're a total flop in Wembley and that was with Bonne and Koroma in the team.

RoryRocks wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:46 pm The problem is that Embleton and some senior players that knew they were on the chopping board underminned Fletcher from day one and pushed for his ousting. If a new manager comes in they are being forced to work under the same circumstances as the owners want to keep the same coaching team in place and don't want to move on the senior players that are not up to it. Embleton is too close to these senior players. We have a number of players in the squad that appear to be undropable. I suppose we as fans have to take some responsibility too as our expectations have been totally unrealistic for our first year back in the league. Just think back, this team was playing horrible football for many months at the end of last season and we're a total flop in Wembley and that was with Bonne and Koroma in the team.

Howling Mad Murdock wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:35 am

PoundhillO wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:34 am The club are a total embarrassment !!

Not sure I'd say that but the way it seems to be run seems to be a recipe for disaster.I hope I am wrong.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:21 am Bit of a shambles right now for sure. Too much fingers crossed stuff going on. I’m staggered that experienced and successful business men like Teague and Travis are going along with this tbh. Ross don’t want the job yet is being dumped on by Ling. Their response seems OK, fine.

This is how they build on the JE legacy, by hoping it turns out all right rather than positive action.

I don’t believe we have a relegation standard squad, though even Morecombe have closed the gap by 4 points in the past few weeks.

I desperately hope hope Ross and the squad do enough. I don’t ever want NL football again. I will never watch NL football again. Our form over the last 4/5 games is dire. But we only have the league to concentrate on and a few players coming back. Hope.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:21 am Bit of a shambles right now for sure. Too much fingers crossed stuff going on. I’m staggered that experienced and successful business men like Teague and Travis are going along with this tbh.
This is how they build on the JE legacy, by hoping it turns out all right rather than positive action.
Hope.

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:20 am

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:21 am Bit of a shambles right now for sure. Too much fingers crossed stuff going on. I’m staggered that experienced and successful business men like Teague and Travis are going along with this tbh.
This is how they build on the JE legacy, by hoping it turns out all right rather than positive action.
Hope.

Breaking News! Leyton Orient FC are pleased to announce Wilkins Micawber as the new Director of Strategy.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:35 am

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:20 am

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:21 am Bit of a shambles right now for sure. Too much fingers crossed stuff going on. I’m staggered that experienced and successful business men like Teague and Travis are going along with this tbh.
This is how they build on the JE legacy, by hoping it turns out all right rather than positive action.
Hope.

Breaking News! Leyton Orient FC are pleased to announce Wilkins Micawber as the new Director of Strategy.

Fezziwig would have been more fun. But I do like the Micawber comparison, something will turn up.

Mind you Martin Chuzzledimwit will need some shifting.

Our defence though are not Scrooge like. Always will to give away freebies

F*ck The Poor wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:35 am

redintheface wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:20 am

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:21 am Bit of a shambles right now for sure. Too much fingers crossed stuff going on. I’m staggered that experienced and successful business men like Teague and Travis are going along with this tbh.
This is how they build on the JE legacy, by hoping it turns out all right rather than positive action.
Hope.

Breaking News! Leyton Orient FC are pleased to announce Wilkins Micawber as the new Director of Strategy.

Fezziwig would have been more fun. But I do like the Micawber comparison, something will turn up.

Mind you Martin Chuzzledimwit will need some shifting.

Our defence though are not Scrooge like. Always will to give away freebies