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spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:48 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:53 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:48 am


I would have serious concerns at the health risks of people handling my food.

In the past, the shops used to do the weighing and handling of food, not as now the customers

You never heard of a thing called a" TAP" .
its for washing stuff.

I have, it's some of the others who would be handling the food that haven't got the same hygiene standards that concern me.

spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:24 am

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:19 am It's being reported that plastics in supermarkets is at an all time high despite consumers not wanting it.

I've always said that government needs to implement some kind of control over packaging as I don't want all the plastic, cellophane, cardboard or whatever with the products I buy. When I was younger you'd purchase your spuds and they would go in a brown paper bag. Now it's in plastic wrapping, I as a consumer never asked for that nor do I want it.

Until the government steps up and says enough of this plastic rubbish it will not reduce nor stop. We are damaging our oceans, land etc. And I personally don't see it as a convenience.

Yesterday I saw video footage of people chasing a seal, catching it so that could cut the plastic that had become entangled around its upper body area. We can't go on like this and think it's acceptable.

Yesterday I too saw video footage of...….Actually on 2nd thought's I think I shouldn't say any more about what I saw on video yesterday

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:53 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:48 am

Lucky7 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:46 am

I would have serious concerns at the health risks of people handling my food.

In the past, the shops used to do the weighing and handling of food, not as now the customers

You never heard of a thing called a" TAP" .
its for washing stuff.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:38 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:53 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:48 am


I would have serious concerns at the health risks of people handling my food.

In the past, the shops used to do the weighing and handling of food, not as now the customers

You never heard of a thing called a" TAP" .
its for washing stuff.

That's OK if you believe clean water from the tap is environmentally neutral. Its not. Clean tap water also damages the environment.

It actually takes a deal of energy to collect and treat water to clean it then transport to homes though a maze of pipes that require constant maintenance which in itself damages the environment. Sadly there is no simple solution, just options that may do less damage.

With some foodstuffs the immediate encapsulation in film extends the life longevity of that product, reduces massive waste and help keeps the price down. Unlike years ago much of the food is shipped a long way and needs a longer life.

A complex subject for sure. Especially when people have very valid concerns over food handling.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:39 am From memory Thor, well 12 years ago when I did this sort of thing, I think legislation did exist, “packaging essential requirements” if memory serves which requires minimum packaging and I think covered recyclability. The brain cells covering this have long been exercise free. Could well be wrong.

But like all these things, what does minimum mean and pretty much everything can be recycled, though the cost and energy waste doing so makes it a nonsense in many cases. Compliance was never an issue. We used to ship our waste plastic to China. I was never convinced this made environmental sense but commercially it looked good when reporting our recycling statistics. And we made money.

Though some improvements did happen, drinks cans for example and plastic recycle codes.

As the person responsible for ensuring compliance to our legal and British Standards obligations in this area and spending hours studying the stuff as it applied to our business it the interpretation of this stuff which has a great deal of flexibility. Thereby is the problem. Businesses can comply yet we still have the problem.

RedO wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:42 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:39 am From memory Thor, well 12 years ago when I did this sort of thing, I think legislation did exist, “packaging essential requirements” if memory serves which requires minimum packaging and I think covered recyclability. The brain cells covering this have long been exercise free. Could well be wrong.

But like all these things, what does minimum mean and pretty much everything can be recycled, though the cost and energy waste doing so makes it a nonsense in many cases. Compliance was never an issue. We used to ship our waste plastic to China. I was never convinced this made environmental sense but commercially it looked good when reporting our recycling statistics. And we made money.

Though some improvements did happen, drinks cans for example and plastic recycle codes.

As the person responsible for ensuring compliance to our legal and British Standards obligations in this area and spending hours studying the stuff as it applied to our business it the interpretation of this stuff which has a great deal of flexibility. Thereby is the problem. Businesses can comply yet we still have the problem.

Are you having a laugh?

After all this time pretending to be an IT guru, it turns out you were responsible for putting the bins out. Odd.

BIGRON wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:33 pm Sainsbury's tried to charge me 20p for a carrier bag today , i carried my goods out with no bag robbing bastards .