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Absolutely, there are clearly some that are to blind to see.
A brutal but accurate post .
Ling is putting Ross under massive pressure. Ross was very, very clear why he didn’t want the job, now we are led to believe Ross has had a massive light bulb moment and wants to be number 1 after all, just a few weeks later. Don’t believe it at all. The Fletcher incident was hardly inspiring. Ross is being played by Ling and being the decent guy Ross is, he is trying his best to help out.
Totally agree with all the issues you raised. Too much sentiment given to players who have not performed this season.PKM wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:50 am hope I’m wrong but there seems almost a complacency over the current situation. There needs to be a thorough internal investigation and the following questions need answering
- Why have so many poor contracts been handed out by dof Ling? Eg Jobi, Coulson, Brill, Ling jr etc. Hampers us going forwards
-Is the current coaching set up fit for purpose? Do we need asst mgr, first team coach and another coach as well as a manager? Would the money not be better spent on the playing side?
-Is the dof position working for us and is Ling still the right man for it
-Why has it taken so long to address glaring weaknesses in the side, eg combative midfielders, Brill’s complete loss of form
There’s plenty more questions, these are uncomfortable questions but they need to be addressed if we are to progress.
There seems to be almost a case of burying our head in the sand and hope we make it in one piece to the end of the season, which is very dangerous thinking.
Totally agree Doh. Ling is throwing his mate under the bus to protect himself. Big changes needed throughout the club,dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:58 pmLing is putting Ross under massive pressure. Ross was very, very clear why he didn’t want the job, now we are led to believe Ross has had a massive light bulb moment and wants to be number 1 after all, just a few weeks later. Don’t believe it at all. The Fletcher incident was hardly inspiring. Ross is being played by Ling and being the decent guy Ross is, he is trying his best to help out.
Ling is dumping on Ross big time for one reason, Ling screwed up getting a new manager and don’t want to go through the process again, for fear he will get it wrong again. Don’t want his selection abilities criticised again so soon. Much easier to drop his mate in the sh*t, big him up and hope it all works out.
We all hope it works out. I personally wish Ross the best of luck, he learns quick and gets lucky in the transfer window. He deserves better from his boss. In the meantime the Justin Legacy is being p*ssed away.
Sadly, I can only agree with all of this.Tom Chance wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:22 pmTotally agree Doh. Ling is throwing his mate under the bus to protect himself. Big changes needed throughout the club,dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:58 pmLing is putting Ross under massive pressure. Ross was very, very clear why he didn’t want the job, now we are led to believe Ross has had a massive light bulb moment and wants to be number 1 after all, just a few weeks later. Don’t believe it at all. The Fletcher incident was hardly inspiring. Ross is being played by Ling and being the decent guy Ross is, he is trying his best to help out.
Ling is dumping on Ross big time for one reason, Ling screwed up getting a new manager and don’t want to go through the process again, for fear he will get it wrong again. Don’t want his selection abilities criticised again so soon. Much easier to drop his mate in the sh*t, big him up and hope it all works out.
We all hope it works out. I personally wish Ross the best of luck, he learns quick and gets lucky in the transfer window. He deserves better from his boss. In the meantime the Justin Legacy is being p*ssed away.
Thing is that maybe Fletcher was right that some of the squad aren’t good enough as recent results and performances seem to suggest.
Absolutely false. We have already had two experienced managers under Ling and had Derek Adams lined up too.Cheshunto wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:02 pmThing is that maybe Fletcher was right that some of the squad aren’t good enough as recent results and performances seem to suggest.
Ling would have to go before any good experienced man manager came in and tried to sort out the mess we’re currently in but I don’t see T and T sacking Ling for some time yet.
Not what I said. Stop screwing up a sensible debate with snide remarks. Thanks in advancePrestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:43 pm Clearing out Ling and the coaching staff would be Becchettiesque, no wonder DohO approves.
And you're a moderator...Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:43 pm It's not a sensible debate, it's a bunch of thick old men talking bollocks.
Up until now I've been a supporter of Martin Ling's but I have to agree it's now beginning to look like he's throwing Ross under the bus . Nigel and Kent have got some tough decisions to make .Tom Chance wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:22 pmTotally agree Doh. Ling is throwing his mate under the bus to protect himself. Big changes needed throughout the club,dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:58 pmLing is putting Ross under massive pressure. Ross was very, very clear why he didn’t want the job, now we are led to believe Ross has had a massive light bulb moment and wants to be number 1 after all, just a few weeks later. Don’t believe it at all. The Fletcher incident was hardly inspiring. Ross is being played by Ling and being the decent guy Ross is, he is trying his best to help out.
Ling is dumping on Ross big time for one reason, Ling screwed up getting a new manager and don’t want to go through the process again, for fear he will get it wrong again. Don’t want his selection abilities criticised again so soon. Much easier to drop his mate in the sh*t, big him up and hope it all works out.
We all hope it works out. I personally wish Ross the best of luck, he learns quick and gets lucky in the transfer window. He deserves better from his boss. In the meantime the Justin Legacy is being p*ssed away.
Stop critising people who don’t have fresh air between their ears like you. If you can’t keep up, shame. Now go away and play with your rattle.Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:43 pm It's not a sensible debate, it's a bunch of thick old men talking bollocks.
Yes, not a good advert, is it .claptonCasual wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:07 pmAnd you're a moderator...Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:43 pm It's not a sensible debate, it's a bunch of thick old men talking bollocks.
I’ve been a Ling defender in the main. But I’ve revisited interviews and come to the conclusion Ross is being fed to the lions by Ling in order to save his own arse. To me that is the worst kind of betrayal. Pushing the positives for Ross whilst really being quite selfish. I struggle to view the interviews and come to any other conclusion. Far from Ling being the honest guy owning up when he gets it wrong, he’s covering up his own weaknesses at Ross Embletons expense.RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:14 pmUp until now I've been a supporter of Martin Ling's but I have to agree it's now beginning to look like he's throwing Ross under the bus . Nigel and Kent have got some tough decisions to make .Tom Chance wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:22 pmTotally agree Doh. Ling is throwing his mate under the bus to protect himself. Big changes needed throughout the club,dOh Nut wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:58 pm
Ling is putting Ross under massive pressure. Ross was very, very clear why he didn’t want the job, now we are led to believe Ross has had a massive light bulb moment and wants to be number 1 after all, just a few weeks later. Don’t believe it at all. The Fletcher incident was hardly inspiring. Ross is being played by Ling and being the decent guy Ross is, he is trying his best to help out.
Ling is dumping on Ross big time for one reason, Ling screwed up getting a new manager and don’t want to go through the process again, for fear he will get it wrong again. Don’t want his selection abilities criticised again so soon. Much easier to drop his mate in the sh*t, big him up and hope it all works out.
We all hope it works out. I personally wish Ross the best of luck, he learns quick and gets lucky in the transfer window. He deserves better from his boss. In the meantime the Justin Legacy is being p*ssed away.
And yet still allowed an opinionclaptonCasual wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:07 pmAnd you're a moderator...Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:43 pm It's not a sensible debate, it's a bunch of thick old men talking bollocks.