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Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:28 pm Benefits go up under labour and people get caught up in that trap and it becomes less incentivised to work than take benefits. It happens everytime, thats what i was referring to.

Stupidest post of the year so far

Article_50 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:00 am Dany Cotton will resign by 15th November, I'll put £20 on it to happen.

£20 to JE3?

"Dany Cotton: London Fire Brigade chief to quit early"

I haven't be as shocked since I was told that the Pope is a Catholic

Where is Jacob Rees Mogg? Asking for a friend.

London fire chief Dany Cotton forced to quit early after Grenfell Tower families demand she goes.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/l ... spartanntp

sad thing is it the only ones to suffer are the poor
tenants who lived there.
I will be surprised if anyone is bought to book.

I was thinking the same thing, the delay is giving plenty of time to shred documents, wipe emails and get stories rehearsed.

Mikero

Mikero wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:43 pm I was thinking the same thing, the delay is giving plenty of time to shred documents, wipe emails and get stories rehearsed.

Mikero

I would expect police have seized where relevant all documents, email servers etc at the outset.

Google the golden hour for investigation.

There will be millions of emails & other documents on servers seized. These all have to be reviewed BEFORE any charging decision can be made - see latest Code for Crown Prosecutors.

This applies even if investigators have sufficient evidence to charge. The unused material needs to be reviewed before a charging decision is made under the latest Code for Crown Prosecutors.

It's not as easy as it may seem. There are many hurdles that have to be overcome before a charge can be laid

Mikero wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:43 pm I was thinking the same thing, the delay is giving plenty of time to shred documents, wipe emails and get stories rehearsed.

Mikero

That will help to make other high rise tenants safe.

Two and a half years on since 72 people died due to systematic failures in privagised building control, deregulation (thanks to successful Tory ministers buckling to private builder lobbying), substandard construction, inadequate fire safety management, wrapping a residential building in flammable materials and a whole host of other failures...

...and the ONLY person to lose their job so far is a fire fighter.

Righto.

Don’t forget 200+ High rise buildings still clad in similar material.

Yep. And then factor in the impact of MHCLG Advice Note 14, other buildings coming into scope due to defects in fire stopping measures, timber framed construction, wooden balconies etc. Safety aside, hundreds of thousands are trapped in properties that are now unmortgageable (although most don't realise it yet).

I've heard whispers that total cost nationwide could be in the region of £70 billion. And yet, despite appealing to government for intervention and support we've been met with a deafening silence.

Meh. Don’t expect that to change anytime soon. It’ll need to happen at least twice again before there’s any worthwhile intervention on this subject.

There is nothing intrinsically wrong with timber buildings, only in the way they are designed and constructed. Wood can be treated with fire retardents, as can insulation materials, its a matter of cost every time.

Mikero

the company that supplied the cladding must have known
that it was a fire risk. they should be made to pay the cost of removing it from other tower blocks.

But then again if the cladding was installed correctly there would be little problem.

Mikero

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:28 pm Benefits go up under labour and people get caught up in that trap and it becomes less incentivised to work than take benefits. It happens everytime, thats what i was referring to.

Thor you are a fairly decent fella ,
But you do talk absolute twaddle.

UC is paid to people who work
Benefit will be adjusted.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... allowances