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bobo66 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:02 am

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:07 am Must be a football thing. I’ve never come across the term outside of the game. The boss is often called by their first name or prefixed by Mr, Mrs, Ms, Miss etc on more formal occasions.

Fletcher can use whatever surrogate he wants and with all the comings and goings in teams sticking to gaffer is easier. people saying um, er Is commonplace creating thinking time before speaking. Harsh to criticise when having to answer questions without preparation, Im sure we all do it at times, even quietly in our minds having mastered not saying it out loud.

Weekly Football Phrase: Gaffer
https://languagecaster.com/weekly-footb ... se-gaffer/

This week’s football phrase is the word gaffer which is a word used by players to describe the boss, the coach or manager of the team. The word originally was used to refer to a foreman or boss on a construction site but has been popular in the football world since the 1970s. In a recent article in the British press, England and Spurs striker, Jermain Defoe reckoned that his gaffer was the best in the country. The gaffer.

Also........Learn More about gaffer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaffer
Did You Know? Though movie and cinema buffs associate gaffer with Hollywood, the word actually pre-dates motion pictures by about 300 years. The first recorded use of gaffer dates from the 16th century, when it was used as a title of respect for an older gentleman. Later it was used as a generic noun for any elderly man, and then it picked up the sense "foreman" (still used in British English), perhaps because the foreman was the most experienced and, most likely, the oldest person in a work crew. Today gaffer is usually applied to the head lighting electrician on a movie set. The gaffer's assistant is called the best boy.

Thanks for explaining what these terms that come in the film credits mean. Any idea what a key grip is?

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:56 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:26 am

spen666 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:24 am


He earned the title "Gaffer" through the selection and interview phases. The club chose to appoint him as "Gaffer" "head coach" "boss" or whatever you want to call it.

Does it really matter anyway?

Yes

Please explain why it matters Dis.
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I agree with Max. The term ‘Gaffer’ is Obselete..

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:08 pm

Thor wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:56 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:26 am

Yes

Please explain why it matters Dis.
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I agree with Max. The term ‘Gaffer’ is Obselete..

Football managers, ''Boss'' yes, but ''Gaffer'' rather silly, a word that ''Gazza'' used a lot !

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:14 pm

bobo66 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:02 am

Weekly Football Phrase: Gaffer
https://languagecaster.com/weekly-footb ... se-gaffer/

This week’s football phrase is the word gaffer which is a word used by players to describe the boss, the coach or manager of the team. The word originally was used to refer to a foreman or boss on a construction site but has been popular in the football world since the 1970s. In a recent article in the British press, England and Spurs striker, Jermain Defoe reckoned that his gaffer was the best in the country. The gaffer.

Also........Learn More about gaffer https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaffer
Did You Know? Though movie and cinema buffs associate gaffer with Hollywood, the word actually pre-dates motion pictures by about 300 years. The first recorded use of gaffer dates from the 16th century, when it was used as a title of respect for an older gentleman. Later it was used as a generic noun for any elderly man, and then it picked up the sense "foreman" (still used in British English), perhaps because the foreman was the most experienced and, most likely, the oldest person in a work crew. Today gaffer is usually applied to the head lighting electrician on a movie set. The gaffer's assistant is called the best boy.

Thanks for explaining what these terms that come in the film credits mean. Any idea what a key grip is?

According to this link.....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_boy
In a film crew there are two kinds of best boy: best boy electric and best boy grip. They are assistants to their department heads, the gaffer (in charge of electricals) and the key grip (lighting and rigging), respectively.[1] In short, the best boy acts as the foreman for his department. A woman who performs the duties of a best boy may be called best girl

bobo66 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:14 am

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:14 pm

bobo66 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 am

Thanks for explaining what these terms that come in the film credits mean. Any idea what a key grip is?

According to this link.....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_boy
In a film crew there are two kinds of best boy: best boy electric and best boy grip. They are assistants to their department heads, the gaffer (in charge of electricals) and the key grip (lighting and rigging), respectively.[1] In short, the best boy acts as the foreman for his department. A woman who performs the duties of a best boy may be called best girl

Thanks for clearing that up Sid. Not very interesting though, I think I prefer Thor's explanation.