We need an experienced Manager - otherwise we might as well stick with RE

[Byways1]

I think your comment is cynical
I get what you are saying in that way but I think you are wrong on your conclusion
Look we have a total investment that they paid the Italian of over the value of what the club was worth - Nigel comment in one interview at the time.
I don't know how many millions they paid but it was a large sum even by business purchase values to the asset base worth.


(That Italian had as we all know had the guy leaving in a Lofc paid rented house in Loughton company car and with him paying ridiculous money to his staff and players he wanted - that resulted in a total bottom line debt.
The new owners paid an inflated price and do you really believe they are not bright enough or commercially minded to understand any failure contributed by them choosing a person based on a salary difference would not be compatible with their objective which is getting back up to next division.

Well we will find out in the next day or two.
Just out of interest, who would you like appointed.

To answer that I would really like to be in attendance at all interviews and as I do not know who's wanted the job I cannot say who I would like out of the applicants

I don't really mind other than we are successful and they fit in and we fit in with their career objectives and hopefully they can demonstrate some previous success

Given a choice of anyone in the football world I would choose a today's version of Bobby Robson or Terry Venables but I do not know a name

Sit on the fence Jeremy Corbin style.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

Well we will find out in the next day or two.
Just out of interest, who would you like appointed.

Jeez, we will all know soon enough. This topic has been done to death.

Let’s just wait a while and instead of speculating about the new man you can move on to criticising him and the club for a poor choice, whoever they choose. Because you won’t be happy, whoever it is.

Whereas the rest of us will contain the usual mix of delighted and disappointed people based on personal but constructive preference.

Don’t tell me I won’t be happy whoever is appointed you tool.
If it’s Adams, Parkinson or Campbell I will be happy.
But I suspect it won’t be.
The betting seems to be Currie will I think will be a disaster.

Then I hope for all our sakes you get your wish, even if it stops your endless, mindless moaning.

[Mr Wu]

The guy who sits in front of us and has several acquaintances in football has been texted that McMahon is the one.

[Byways1]

It's not about spending big. It's about considering the wage differential between hiring an inexperienced Manager/HC and an experienced one. Unlikely to be vast.

And when considering the differential we need to factor in the impact of a poor season this year and ST sales next year. Saving a few bob on wages could well cost us even more in the long run on lost revenue.

I honestly don't feel Travis and Teague, both experienced in hiring well paid staff, will be foolish enough to baulk over a few quid if it means getting the man Ling wants. They will back him 100%.

Whoever Ling brings in, I doubt wages will have been a factor.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

It's not about spending big. It's about considering the wage differential between hiring an inexperienced Manager/HC and an experienced one. Unlikely to be vast.

And when considering the differential we need to factor in the impact of a poor season this year and ST sales next year. Saving a few bob on wages could well cost us even more in the long run on lost revenue.

I honestly don't feel Travis and Teague, both experienced in hiring well paid staff, will be foolish enough to baulk over a few quid if it means getting the man Ling wants. They will back him 100%.

Whoever Ling brings in, I doubt wages will have been a factor.

We will pay a competitive League 2 salary. If money is a big issue we will appoint from within, which we won’t.

[Byways1]

It's not about spending big. It's about considering the wage differential between hiring an inexperienced Manager/HC and an experienced one. Unlikely to be vast.

And when considering the differential we need to factor in the impact of a poor season this year and ST sales next year. Saving a few bob on wages could well cost us even more in the long run on lost revenue.

I honestly don't feel Travis and Teague, both experienced in hiring well paid staff, will be foolish enough to baulk over a few quid if it means getting the man Ling wants. They will back him 100%.

Whoever Ling brings in, I doubt wages will have been a factor.

Are you sure you’re in business?

[Disoriented]

Nothing on the Orient website unless I have missed it.

[Byways1]

Nothing on the Orient website unless I have missed it.

No, but it’s a good laugh.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

It's not about spending big. It's about considering the wage differential between hiring an inexperienced Manager/HC and an experienced one. Unlikely to be vast.

And when considering the differential we need to factor in the impact of a poor season this year and ST sales next year. Saving a few bob on wages could well cost us even more in the long run on lost revenue.

I honestly don't feel Travis and Teague, both experienced in hiring well paid staff, will be foolish enough to baulk over a few quid if it means getting the man Ling wants. They will back him 100%.

Whoever Ling brings in, I doubt wages will have been a factor.

Are you sure you’re in business?

Absolutely. I’ve obviously used terms you don’t understand.

[RedDwarf 1881]

If it’s Carl Fletcher we should have stuck with Ross for longer until and got somebody else

[RedDwarf 1881]

If it’s Carl Fletcher we should have stuck with Ross until and got somebody else

[Disoriented]

Fletcher out

[redintheface]

Fletcher out

Let him get in first

[Byways1]

Fletcher out

Ross in!

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

If it’s Carl Fletcher we should have stuck with Ross for longer until and got somebody else

I share concerns but given the apparent list of 40 applicants either the other 39 Were all pants or Fletcher has got the job based on being the most suitable candidate over whatever criteria the club finalised on.

I just cannot believe there were not more experienced people applying. So what has he demonstrated that the others haven’t. Attitude I believe being one. Perhaps he was one of few willing to accept our backroom team. Can’t be we have a DoF as applicants applied to a DoF. Maybe not too opinionated, willing to discuss rather than being the Boss.

Was byways1 right when he went on and on about a cheap option? An opportunity to get back into management means he would be flexible, very flexible. Almost desperate. Working cheap to rekindle his managerial career?

It’s strange, he has no pedigree worth talking about and what their is, is average. Fletcher is a shot in the dark, the best we can say is that if it all goes pear shaped it’s unlikely to result in relegation.

Inspiring, nah. Making me want to go to games, nah. But if he gets the gig, and we await formal confirmation, all we can do is hope he becomes a top man.

[redintheface]

If it’s Carl Fletcher we should have stuck with Ross for longer until and got somebody else

I share concerns but given the apparent list of 40 applicants either the other 39 Were all pants or Fletcher has got the job based on being the most suitable candidate over whatever criteria the club finalised on.

I just cannot believe there were not more experienced people applying. So what has he demonstrated that the others haven’t. Attitude I believe being one. Perhaps he was one of few willing to accept our backroom team.

I do think you may have a point in respect of the acceptance of the existing “back room team” being an issue. I would not be at all surprised some of the more experienced “ possibles” fans hoped for didn’t put themselves forward with this as a precondition.

[F*ck The Poor & Fat]

If it’s Carl Fletcher we should have stuck with Ross for longer until and got somebody else

I share concerns but given the apparent list of 40 applicants either the other 39 Were all pants or Fletcher has got the job based on being the most suitable candidate over whatever criteria the club finalised on.

I just cannot believe there were not more experienced people applying. So what has he demonstrated that the others haven’t. Attitude I believe being one. Perhaps he was one of few willing to accept our backroom team.

I do think you may have a point in respect of the acceptance of the existing “back room team” being an issue. I would not be at all surprised some of the more experienced “ possibles” fans hoped for didn’t put themselves forward with this as a precondition.

Certainly it’s common for managers to want their own team. Whether this would be a deal breaker, perhaps.

[redintheface]

Not a deal breaker for all obviously as over 40 applied! That said, I can imagine some of those “ bigger names” who maybe the fans might have liked would have been less keen to put in their CV with that as an obligation.

[Disoriented]

Not a deal breaker for all obviously as over 40 applied! That said, I can imagine some of those “ bigger names” who maybe the fans might have liked would have been less keen to put in their CV with that as an obligation.

So why ring fence the position? What kind of leadership are the club showing by doing this?

[redintheface]

Not a deal breaker for all obviously as over 40 applied! That said, I can imagine some of those “ bigger names” who maybe the fans might have liked would have been less keen to put in their CV with that as an obligation.

So why ring fence the position? What kind of leadership are the club showing by doing this?

I don’t know the answer to that one! I said at the time Ling gave his interview about the job process that by taking this line the club might deter a number of candidates who might otherwise apply. Again , I don’t know if it did or didn’t have an impact but it seemed an unnecessary restriction to put on imho.

[PoundhillO]

Not a deal breaker for all obviously as over 40 applied! That said, I can imagine some of those “ bigger names” who maybe the fans might have liked would have been less keen to put in their CV with that as an obligation.

So why ring fence the position? What kind of leadership are the club showing by doing this?

A very salient point, why not appoint the best available if they bring their own 2nd in command and give Ross Embleton another position at the club, it’s a small sacrifice to make to ensure we get the best available.
To do otherwise could be seen as keeping Lings mate as 2Nd in command to the detriment of the clubs future, no person is bigger than the club itself !

[Disoriented]

Not a deal breaker for all obviously as over 40 applied! That said, I can imagine some of those “ bigger names” who maybe the fans might have liked would have been less keen to put in their CV with that as an obligation.

So why ring fence the position? What kind of leadership are the club showing by doing this?

I don’t know the answer to that one! I said at the time Ling gave his interview about the job process that by taking this line the club might deter a number of candidates who might otherwise apply. Again , I don’t know if it did or didn’t have an impact but it seemed an unnecessary restriction to put on imho.

Fair and logical comments fella.

[Byways1]

Can't follow your comment maxi

All I am saying all applicants should at the formal interview stage if they remain interested be aware of the salary range

There is no "cheap option" which are words I don't really like to be totally honest - we need a proven manager and club will have to pay the market value to achieve that.

We all go to job interviews in our professions knowing the market value and the sum on offer within a reasonable possible negotiation band.

All this talk about the club looking to save money by some of the posters cannot be correct interpretation

Why would the club jeopardise their collective investment and ambitions by not seeking to appoint the most successful of all the shortlisted listed people

[Thor]

Whilst I respect people’s opinions if I were fletch if I had actually accepted the role and if I had read this forum I’d probably be thinking “nah sod that, I’m on a loser with a section of fans before I even start” and if that’s representative of the wonder base he’s virtually dead in the water before he starts.

[EastDerehamO]

While I would have gone with the combo of experience and some level of success at this level – so CF wouldn’t have been on my short-list – if he’s confirmed in the role then he has my full backing, I wish him well, and he will be given the time he needs to give it a go before judgement is made.

I’d hope that most fans would be fair-minded enough to take that view too.