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I'm guessing Andrew Neil used his usual technique of haranguing hia interviewee because they don't know the number to two decimal places that he has written on a bit of paper provided by a researcher?

I mean other than the world being f*cked if there isn't a massive and systematic change how many facts do you need?

Did anyone see the pictures of the protestors queuing up in McDonald’s, I thought that was quite funny.

Or the women who refused to answer piers Morgan’s questions on breakfast tv. Hypocrites.

What is funny or hypocritical? The idea that no one is allowed to speak up unless they are already living a carbon neutral life is lazy and stupid.

Mick McQuaid said:-I'm guessing Andrew Neil used his usual technique of haranguing hia interviewee because they don't know the number to two decimal places that he has written on a bit of paper provided by a researcher?

Actually, no. He did query a lot of their figures, which are so obviously stupid, he could demolish them without an effort. He mainly went after them because of their policy of frightening children by saying things like we are all gonna be dead in ten years. He quoted figures on how much sea levels had rose in the last 20 years- not much. Really it is a shame you write a comment attacking the geezer, without actually watching the show. Typical reactionary. Reminds me of Mary Whitehouse.

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:04 am I'm guessing Andrew Neil used his usual technique of haranguing hia interviewee because they don't know the number to two decimal places that he has written on a bit of paper provided by a researcher?

I mean other than the world being f*cked if there isn't a massive and systematic change how many facts do you need?

Is it though?

Tell me more about this systematic change that is needed?

Thor wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:21 am Did anyone see the pictures of the protestors queuing up in McDonald’s, I thought that was quite funny.

Or the women who refused to answer piers Morgan’s questions on breakfast tv. Hypocrites.

The crusties actually eat food and drink drinks? Hypocrites!

The best Pie yet.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:20 am

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:04 am I'm guessing Andrew Neil used his usual technique of haranguing hia interviewee because they don't know the number to two decimal places that he has written on a bit of paper provided by a researcher?

I mean other than the world being f*cked if there isn't a massive and systematic change how many facts do you need?

Is it though?

Tell me more about this systematic change that is needed?

You're being deliberately obtuse here, or are you a denier? Does anyone really still need proof that we need to make radical changes to prevent irreversible life-threatening damage to the World? As to the changes needed, well they've been well documented for many years now. Have you been living in a cave?

No but his kids and grandkids may well be.

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:46 am

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:20 am

Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:04 am I'm guessing Andrew Neil used his usual technique of haranguing hia interviewee because they don't know the number to two decimal places that he has written on a bit of paper provided by a researcher?

I mean other than the world being f*cked if there isn't a massive and systematic change how many facts do you need?

Is it though?

Tell me more about this systematic change that is needed?

You're being deliberately obtuse here, or are you a denier? Does anyone really still need proof that we need to make radical changes to prevent irreversible life-threatening damage to the World? As to the changes needed, well they've been well documented for many years now. Have you been living in a cave?

Not denying anything, do you have the specific details as to how the world is f*cked or not? And what changes do you propose?

Hes wumming right?

You're not aware of the impending catastrophic events about to come our way? Droughts. Flooding. Starvation. Land loss.

A lot of that hopefully won't impact us directly. But it will when all the people who are affected have to move somewhere else, where there is food, shelter, medical aid etc.

If only this information was easily and widely available to anyone interested, perhaps by some system where people could search using key words relevant to the topic.

Calm down Chicken Little, this extreme weather wont make places uninhabitable, people adapt!

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:19 am Calm down Chicken Little, this extreme weather wont make places uninhabitable, people adapt!

Good luck growing those gills.

What places are going to be underwater and when?

Wet ones. Soon.

Reducing emissions- would love to hear your suggestions.

Technology will help us reduce emissions once it is ready and economically viable.

Tree planting I am all for.

Population- not sure how you address this problem.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:19 am Calm down Chicken Little, this extreme weather wont make places uninhabitable, people adapt!

Phew, well that's alright then. For a moment there I thought that the rapidly increasing temperatures, rising sea-levels and the associated impacts on the food chain was a cause for concern!

Additionally, I'm a tad concerned for the survival of millions (billions?) of people, in some of the poorest parts of the World, where the land is barely above the current sea-levels. Bangladesh springs to mind but I could find many, many other places with just a few clicks on the internet. If only you were an IT aware person who could investigate this yourself!

Was listening to a radio programme about clean energy generation on Orkney.

Apparently at certain times the excess electricity generated by their wind turbines cannot be fed into the National Grid as it lacks the capacity to feed it in

Instead they divert the electricity and use it to extract Hydrogen from water and use that to heat schools and power vehicles and ferries. The Council even have a Hydrogen Officer.

How good would it be if every Council adopted this approach?

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:22 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:19 am Calm down Chicken Little, this extreme weather wont make places uninhabitable, people adapt!

Phew, well that's alright then. For a moment there I thought that the rapidly increasing temperatures, rising sea-levels and the associated impacts on the food chain was a cause for concern!

Additionally, I'm a tad concerned for the survival of millions (billions?) of people, in some of the poorest parts of the World, where the land is barely above the current sea-levels. Bangladesh springs to mind but I could find many, many other places with just a few clicks on the internet. If only you were an IT aware person who could investigate this yourself!

So what do you propose?

Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:24 pm Was listening to a radio programme about clean energy generation on Orkney.

Apparently at certain times the excess electricity generated by their wind turbines cannot be fed into the National Grid as it lacks the capacity to feed it in

Instead they divert the electricity and use it to extract Hydrogen from water and use that to heat schools and power vehicles and ferries. The Council even have a Hydrogen Officer.

How good would it be if every Council adopted this approach?

Yup, agreed. My next door neighbour but one is a Uni professor who is a World renowned specialist on clean energy. He was telling me how you could generate enough energy from a footpath around a new building estate to provide a large part of the required electricity for the estate. Of course, this specialist path, which converts the downwards compression from footfall into power, costs more than tarmac. It is being more widely adopted in more Countries in the EU compared to the UK. It's just one innovative method of producing clean energy but of course the issue is initial investment. This is what needs to change and the government could,if it really wanted to, support this by grants to make the technology more palatable to builders. I won't hold my breath.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:32 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:22 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:19 am Calm down Chicken Little, this extreme weather wont make places uninhabitable, people adapt!

Phew, well that's alright then. For a moment there I thought that the rapidly increasing temperatures, rising sea-levels and the associated impacts on the food chain was a cause for concern!

Additionally, I'm a tad concerned for the survival of millions (billions?) of people, in some of the poorest parts of the World, where the land is barely above the current sea-levels. Bangladesh springs to mind but I could find many, many other places with just a few clicks on the internet. If only you were an IT aware person who could investigate this yourself!

So what do you propose?

You are a persistent little farquhar aren't you. Google is your friend - go figure.

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:39 am The best Pie yet.

Normally love this guy & how he tells it, but had a close friend or a member of my families funeral had been disrupted like the pathetic idiot of a father did by chaining himself to a hearse, I'd kick the living crap out of him. There's protesting about ecological problems & there's being damn right disrespectful. I think we in the UK do a lot more than most. Are we responsible for the destruction of the amazon forest ? no.
Is it the norm to drive around in 5 & 6L engine trucks & cars as it is in the USA? again no.

Let's wait & see what the clean up operation is like after these Protests. I bet they won't be taking all their sh*t home with them

O my gawd wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:48 pm

RedO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:39 am The best Pie yet.

Normally love this guy & how he tells it, but had a close friend or a member of my families funeral had been disrupted like the pathetic idiot of a father did by chaining himself to a hearse, I'd kick the living crap out of him. There's protesting about ecological problems & there's being damn right disrespectful. I think we in the UK do a lot more than most. Are we responsible for the destruction of the amazon forest ? no.
Is it the norm to drive around in 5 & 6L engine trucks & cars as it is in the USA? again no.

Let's wait & see what the clean up operation is like after these Protests. I bet they won't be taking all their sh*t home with them

Yes, lets focus on the mess left by a few hundred protesters as the planet we live on is being destroyed.

Btw you are responsible for the mess in the Amazon. We all are.

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:42 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:32 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:22 pm

Phew, well that's alright then. For a moment there I thought that the rapidly increasing temperatures, rising sea-levels and the associated impacts on the food chain was a cause for concern!

Additionally, I'm a tad concerned for the survival of millions (billions?) of people, in some of the poorest parts of the World, where the land is barely above the current sea-levels. Bangladesh springs to mind but I could find many, many other places with just a few clicks on the internet. If only you were an IT aware person who could investigate this yourself!

So what do you propose?

You are a persistent little farquhar aren't you. Google is your friend - go figure.

You dont know then.