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Perhaps that is why Cambridge got rid of him, he was quite a popular player there at one time.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:27 amTrue. He has become a bit of a plodder, I'm afraid.
''The persistent theme is a lack of pressure on the ball.'' That is it in a nutshell !RedO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:00 am The persistent theme is a lack of pressure on the ball.
The first clip, Wright wins the header in the six yard box and the ball gets hooked out to the wing. No one else goes out to the player, Wright himself has to head out there.
Their first goal, no one is anywhere near the crosser again. JMD doesn’t want it enough and gets beaten to the ball. The shot isn’t great but Brill isn’t agile enough to dive anymore.
The second goal, Wilkinson isn’t pressing the ball enough. He’s fresh so has no excuse of being tired, he needs to be working harder. If we still had Bonne, that ball isn’t played down the line, it would have gone back to the keeper.
Bit of luck in both goals for sure but Angol is class in both of them.
Very popular and also younger, faster and more mobile a few years ago.Lovejoy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:33 amPerhaps that is why Cambridge got rid of him, he was quite a popular player there at one time.Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:27 amTrue. He has become a bit of a plodder, I'm afraid.
Really? I know it's Brill in goal but come on, he'd have had to produce a worldie from that angle. Agree with your other points though.RedO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:48 pmHe was definitely in with a chance of scoring there. Coulson had to try and win the ball, his mistake was getting turned in the first place.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:03 pmThis. Daft from Coulson trying to tackle a man from behind in the box in the 93rd minute. He wasn't scoring from there and we had enough bodies back to defend the ball across.Tom Chance wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:32 pm But why did Josh even give the ref the opportunity to give a pen. The player was on the edge of the box and others were back too.
For me it's a pen - there's contact and he hasn't played the ball. But as you say he shouldn't have given the ref the opportunity in that situation.
But the main problem is not defending from the front. Their centre half has all the time in the world to put a decent ball into the channel to stretch Josh. If Bonne was with us, that ball doesn’t get played in like that.
Hasn’t started well. Is he now being seen in the same light as Brill?Chief crazy horse wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:27 amTrue. He has become a bit of a plodder, I'm afraid.
It’s amazing how many world class strikes are coming in against us this season that Brill hasn’t got a chance of saving. You’d never think we were facing Division 4 standard players.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:52 amReally? I know it's Brill in goal but come on, he'd have had to produce a worldie from that angle. Agree with your other points though.RedO wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:48 pmHe was definitely in with a chance of scoring there. Coulson had to try and win the ball, his mistake was getting turned in the first place.Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:03 pm
This. Daft from Coulson trying to tackle a man from behind in the box in the 93rd minute. He wasn't scoring from there and we had enough bodies back to defend the ball across.
For me it's a pen - there's contact and he hasn't played the ball. But as you say he shouldn't have given the ref the opportunity in that situation.
But the main problem is not defending from the front. Their centre half has all the time in the world to put a decent ball into the channel to stretch Josh. If Bonne was with us, that ball doesn’t get played in like that.
Agree with the comments about the first goal too. Ling rightfully goes with his man inside, Ekpiteta comes out to track the man out wide but then just jogs back into the middle and leaves him completely free, not telling anyone else to pick him up - naive from him. But we still had opportunities to clear the ball after that and failed.
Oh get over yourself, this is a message board where the sole purpose is to discuss our opinions on Orient.UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:37 am I am all for all fans having a view on a player but some of the comments on this thread are so subjective and written as if a players ability and career is there for each and every fan to strip raw.
Then one considers the total lack of genuine football tactical knowledge any of us really have which reduces the subjective comments to a trash level
Some people here talk with such confidence unaware of their own football lack of knowledge and it decends into utter carnage of a players career
It's a free world but hey think first to the big picture this is div 4 and all the players try their very best I am convinced
Definitely that.Thor wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:28 pm The first goal I’d down to a lack of communication from ME to SL. If ME is handing the player over he needs to tell SL whose body language shows nothing was said to him. Also ME does not show body language that anything is being said to SL.
Therefore it’s a bit harsh to blame SL.
Haven't you got a podcast where you can do that ? I'm sure there must at least half a dozen fans out there with data to burn & listen.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:55 pmOh get over yourself, this is a message board where the sole purpose is to discuss our opinions on Orient.UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:37 am I am all for all fans having a view on a player but some of the comments on this thread are so subjective and written as if a players ability and career is there for each and every fan to strip raw.
Then one considers the total lack of genuine football tactical knowledge any of us really have which reduces the subjective comments to a trash level
Some people here talk with such confidence unaware of their own football lack of knowledge and it decends into utter carnage of a players career
It's a free world but hey think first to the big picture this is div 4 and all the players try their very best I am convinced
It's not that hard to understand is it? I'm sure the players appreciate their white knight standing up them though, all fragile as they are.
Surprising you’ve replied.O my gawd wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:23 pmHaven't you got a podcast where you can do that ? I'm sure there must at least half a dozen fans out there with data to burn & listen.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:55 pmOh get over yourself, this is a message board where the sole purpose is to discuss our opinions on Orient.UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:37 am I am all for all fans having a view on a player but some of the comments on this thread are so subjective and written as if a players ability and career is there for each and every fan to strip raw.
Then one considers the total lack of genuine football tactical knowledge any of us really have which reduces the subjective comments to a trash level
Some people here talk with such confidence unaware of their own football lack of knowledge and it decends into utter carnage of a players career
It's a free world but hey think first to the big picture this is div 4 and all the players try their very best I am convinced
It's not that hard to understand is it? I'm sure the players appreciate their white knight standing up them though, all fragile as they are.
Not the eleventh time you see it though.
So, none of us can have an opinion?UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:20 pmApple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:44 pmSurprising you’ve replied.
Half a dozen more people than want to listen to you. Maybe you should get a hobby too?
There is a massive difference between a opinion as a genuine fan and crap uneducated personal subjective rudeness directed to a player particularly when the subjective comments are based on utter rubbish because that "fan" has limited football intelligence and more than likely was useless at football themselves and / or cannot comprehend the dynamics of playing a competive sport
Next time I watch 90 minutes of absolute guff I’ll remind myself of my limited football credentials and just accept what Ive really seen was a performance of extreme quality.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:17 pm Can everyone submit their football credentials to admin before posting again? Need to know the level of football you’ve played at, how many games you’ve been to and any coaching badges you’ve gained. Ta.
Have you ever played professional football? If not, no.Disoriented wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:26 pmSo, none of us can have an opinion?UpminsterO wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:20 pmApple Wumble wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:44 pm
Surprising you’ve replied.
Half a dozen more people than want to listen to you. Maybe you should get a hobby too?
There is a massive difference between a opinion as a genuine fan and crap uneducated personal subjective rudeness directed to a player particularly when the subjective comments are based on utter rubbish because that "fan" has limited football intelligence and more than likely was useless at football themselves and / or cannot comprehend the dynamics of playing a competive sport