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Beradogs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:17 am Point nine one eight as a err point. Anyone who thinks Abbott is worth a pop can’t be of sound mind. On the radio the other day she was asked if she knew the difference between Sunni and Shia. She didn’t, but knew they sang I got you babe. Alledgebelly.

At least Boris is a lad who enjoys a bunk up with multiple birds.

Corbyn having it off with Abbott speaks volumes for his judgement. Although saying that, unlikely he could do better given he looks like a perennially pis*sed Geography teacher

It didn't take long for the Racist Brexit supporting idiots to show their true colours did it?

West Side Story wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:09 am It didn't take long for the Racist Brexit supporting idiots to show their true colours did it?

Nope, and they seem to all have arrived in convoy. There really is some racist pond life on this board. Forgetting Brexit for a second, there's no need for the constant digs at Abbot and whether Corbyn "popped her" or not. It really is bringing any discussion down to the level of the Sun but that's clearly the level these morons understand.

Lol

For balance

Disoriented wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:26 am

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:40 am

Disoriented wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:17 pm Smirking idiot is too kind for this lying, racist scumbag.

shut the fek up you idiot

Charming. Spoken like a true right-winger.

Also, which part of Johnson’s character assessment is wrong?

Thank you for the right winger compliment, much appreciated, I've moved from Labour, through Tories, through Ukip, Through Brexit all in 5 years, now i'm slightly to the right of Ghengis Khan. Nowt wrong with Bojo, love him to pieces, must admit could do with better dress sense and put a comb through that mop, at least didn't put his cock in a pigs mouth like Cameron. Think Bojo has walked through a corn field though so that's better than Treason May, by the way did you go up to Manchester to see the cricket.

West Side Story wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:51 am Point nine one eight said "Yes me. You may think he's an idiot but he's gone further in life than you or I, Mayer of London, Prime Minister of Great Britain & N Ireland, what have you achieved in your sad little life, at least he hasn't shagged Dianne Abbot un like your pathetic lying racist hero.
Top"
Right mate let's get things straight. I don't support Jezza, I left the Labour Party years ago. I can't speak for you; but myself. I was only 3 months old when my father was killed. My mum struggled to bring up 3 kids with little State intervention. I had the normal State funded education and managed to get 9 " O " levels, 5 " A " levels & HNC. I think that is fair enough. The smirking Idiot had a very rich daddy, went to Eton & Oxford & is still a smirking idiot. I suggest you broaden your circle of friends, don't make assumptions and read a few more " quality " books. I suppose my life did have a sad start.

Sorry about your father dying so young you have done well so far. Your opening statement led me to believe you were a jezza supporter including the tone of the statement. Just because a bloke smiles why does that mean he's an idiot. My circle of friends includes colleagues from past employers, Times Newspapers, Bank of England, GE Money, back to the Times again. I have been employed by The Sun and Daily Mirror, I would think my quality of books is very extensive like yours.

greyhound wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:20 am

point nine one eight wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:51 am

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:26 pm What interests me, is not the supreme court verdict next week, ( i think they'll find that johnson didnt do anything illegal), but that he's said he will not ask the EU for an extension. If he doesn't, then he has broken the law, and I would expect, like everyone else who breaks the law, he will be arrested, charged and have to appear in court .
If that happens, then i would expect he would be barred from holding office again.
The only way I can see him not asking for the extension, is if he resigns, and someone else will have to do it
Either way, we'll be free of the liar

You ain't got a clue what your on about. The judge can't do anything as no penalties have been thought of yet.

that's a good point mate.
all remoaners keep on calling Boris a lire with no evidence what so ever.
bared from office sorry the most any politician has got is a fine.

You want evidence johnson is a liar eh?
Ok here it is
1.When he was fired from The Times for inventing a quote

Within months of starting a job at Times, which he got through family connections, he was sacked.

In his first front page story, he invented a quote from an academic. The academic, who happened to be Johnson’s own godfather, complained.

Instead of apologising then, Johnson wrote a further story saying the “mystery had deepened”.

He was sacked by the Times
2. When he was sacked from the Tory front bench for lying about an affair.

Johnson denied having an affair with journalist Petronella Wyatt, saying: “I have not had an affair with Petronella. It is complete balderdash.”

However, Wyatt and her mother said the affair did happen and she had to have an abortion as a result.

A spin doctor to the then Tory leader Michael Howard decided Johnson had lied to them and sacked him from his role as party vice chair and shadow arts minister.
3. When he said the UK gives £350m a week to the EU

During the referendum campaign, Johnson was repeatedly pictured with a bus saying that the UK gave the EU £350m a week.

When an ITV reporter told him it wasn’t true, he repeatedly said that it was.

According to the UK Statistics Authority, this figure should be £289m a week and, more importantly, it doesn’t include what the EU gives the UK.

Nevertheless, Johnson continued to repeat the lie at least until 2017. The chair of the UK statistics authority wrote a public letter to him accusing him of a “clear misuse of official statistics”.
4. When he lied about Turkey joining the EU

Johnson was on the core group of the campaign committee of Vote Leave. A common Vote Leave campaign poster said “Turkey (population 76m) is joining the EU”.

Johnson himself wrote to Cameron to say: “The public will draw the reasonable conclusion that the only way to avoid having common borders with Turkey is to vote leave and take back control on 23 June,”

While there has been talk of Turkey joining the EU for decades, according to Full Fact, it is very unlikely to join any time soon.

As an EU member, the UK would have been able to veto Turkish membership if it ever did get close to joining, but of course johnson didnt mention that bit
5. When he lied about the EU’s kipper regulations

At the final Tory leadership hustings, he said “Brussels bureaucrats” rules meant kippers must be sent with a plastic ice pillow, thus increasing costs.

According to Full Fact, this is “incorrect”. The temperature requirement is a UK one.

Enough?...If not I have more lies from Johnson.

O my gawd wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:41 am The man plays up to this bumbling buffoon image, but let's face facts. He's the only person in the last 3 years to show true leadership & sort this mess out.

he needs to join with the Brexit party.
if they join they will win by a mile,have to keep the Marxist party out.

I can't believe this PAM isn't an alias. If it is, his standards have fallen mightily.

Good to see those on the right putting up an argument for Boris's leadership - even if that argument is based on who Corbyn had sex with 40 years ago. You fellas really should take a long look at yourselves.

For 3 years I've been waiting for someone to provide me with a substantive list of reasons to firstly leave the EU and proof that its a positive move. Can't wait for someone on here to put me right on things I'm unsure about.

PAM wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:15 am Lol

Good God

PAM wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:16 am For balance

Thanks for the laugh, PAM . Very good .

admin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:17 pm I can't believe this PAM isn't an alias. If it is, his standards have fallen mightily.

Good to see those on the right putting up an argument for Boris's leadership - even if that argument is based on who Corbyn had sex with 40 years ago. You fellas really should take a long look at yourselves.

For 3 years I've been waiting for someone to provide me with a substantive list of reasons to firstly leave the EU and proof that its a positive move. Can't wait for someone on here to put me right on things I'm unsure about.

I'm not being serious, I'm attempting to parody Brexit Party supporters

I'm a Lib Dem....

Meh. If it is you, then try harder - you used to be much more subtle.

admin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:17 pm I can't believe this PAM isn't an alias. If it is, his standards have fallen mightily.

Good to see those on the right putting up an argument for Boris's leadership - even if that argument is based on who Corbyn had sex with 40 years ago. You fellas really should take a long look at yourselves.

For 3 years I've been waiting for someone to provide me with a substantive list of reasons to firstly leave the EU and proof that its a positive move. Can't wait for someone on here to put me right on things I'm unsure about.

I did ask that question when he reappeared. I agree that he is a pale imitation of the previous incantation.

admin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:17 pm I can't believe this PAM isn't an alias. If it is, his standards have fallen mightily.

Good to see those on the right putting up an argument for Boris's leadership - even if that argument is based on who Corbyn had sex with 40 years ago. You fellas really should take a long look at yourselves.

For 3 years I've been waiting for someone to provide me with a substantive list of reasons to firstly leave the EU and proof that its a positive move. Can't wait for someone on here to put me right on things I'm unsure about.

Why would you wait for a list? As if, someone's vote is only valid if they can justify it to you?

I don't trust the EU on

Tax
Privatisation
Globalization
Migration

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:56 pm

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 pm At least Corbyn is bright enough to know when he lies!
Johnson should reflect on his comments about Farage not being fit and proper to be an MP, let alone PM!!

Farage is only fit to be a milkshake victim .

Yet he’s still miles ahead of Boris.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:15 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:56 pm

cockhat wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:54 pm At least Corbyn is bright enough to know when he lies!
Johnson should reflect on his comments about Farage not being fit and proper to be an MP, let alone PM!!

Farage is only fit to be a milkshake victim .

Yet he’s still miles ahead of Boris.

Yeah, in the stakes of biggest T**t who ever lived

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:53 pm

admin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:17 pm I can't believe this PAM isn't an alias. If it is, his standards have fallen mightily.

Good to see those on the right putting up an argument for Boris's leadership - even if that argument is based on who Corbyn had sex with 40 years ago. You fellas really should take a long look at yourselves.

For 3 years I've been waiting for someone to provide me with a substantive list of reasons to firstly leave the EU and proof that its a positive move. Can't wait for someone on here to put me right on things I'm unsure about.

Why would you wait for a list? As if, someone's vote is only valid if they can justify it to you?

I don't trust the EU on

Tax
Privatisation
Globalization
Migration

This.

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:17 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:15 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:56 pm

Farage is only fit to be a milkshake victim .

Yet he’s still miles ahead of Boris.

Yeah, in the stakes of biggest T**t who ever lived

Wrong . That accolade could go to anybody in the leadership of Labour or the LibDems . At the moment Tom Watson is the biggest tw*t of the lot

PAM wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:18 pm

admin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:17 pm I can't believe this PAM isn't an alias. If it is, his standards have fallen mightily.

Good to see those on the right putting up an argument for Boris's leadership - even if that argument is based on who Corbyn had sex with 40 years ago. You fellas really should take a long look at yourselves.

For 3 years I've been waiting for someone to provide me with a substantive list of reasons to firstly leave the EU and proof that its a positive move. Can't wait for someone on here to put me right on things I'm unsure about.

I'm not being serious, I'm attempting to parody Brexit Party supporters

I'm a Lib Dem....

Well, nobody’s perfect.

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:28 pm

tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:17 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:15 pm

Yet he’s still miles ahead of Boris.

Yeah, in the stakes of biggest T**t who ever lived

Wrong . That accolade could go to anybody in the leadership of Labour or the LibDems . At the moment Tom Watson is the biggest tw*t of the lot

Are you saying Labour gave usthe referendum gote?
Had 3 years.of government control & are still fannying around
With there PM since the referendum vote ?

clueless

Sooner brexit gets done, sooner the amateur political experts
can fook orf & leave it to those who know

Saying you "don't trust them" on Tax (and other things) isn't a substantive reason. What is it about Tax that the EU are doing that is so bad that we would be better off out of it? I'd really be interested to know.

I'm willing to bet that before the referendum you literally never had a conversation down the pub about those EU toe-rags and what they're doing about taxation. On tax in particular, member states have always been able to set their own tax regimes, and the EU actively works to remove tax obstacles to cross-border economic activity. That sounds like a good thing, no?

Privatisation and Globalisation - I don't know what you're getting at there, but sure, it sounds good right.

Migration - Freedom of movement is a good thing, literally thousands of young people have benefited from the Erasmus+ programme and thousands of olds have upped-sticks to sunnier climes where they can still get their hard-earned benefits. If you think leaving is going to shut the door to the foreigns then you should be under no illusion that relaxed visa controls will be at the top of every other countries demands before they do a deal with us.

I think very few on here understands what he is doing,
Thats why we are not in power & he is.
He's clearly 20 times smarter than all of us.

I don't know, you could certainly make the case that Johnson has had a lot of opportunities handed to him on a plate. He's obviously not a stupid man. It's the mindset I struggle to understand. Despite all advice pointing to Brexit being an entirely avoidable act of economic and social self-harm, he is determined to carry out the "will of the people". I don't believe he's doing this because he is a man of great principle, because there's little in his political or personal CV to support that, so why is he doing it?

He's not 20 times smarter than all of us, but there are unseen forces at work.