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Fatbaz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:15 am I see.

You won't tell me your name. Therefore you cannot support your claim to be 'a lawyer'. It's only hot air. You are a faker.

And, yes, as a matter of fact, it is a criminal offence to claim to be a lawyer if you are not.

The Solicitors Act, 1974, Section 21: 'Any unqualified person who willfully pretends to be, or takes or uses any name, title, addition or description implying that, he is qualified or recognised by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to [F1 a fine not exceeding the fourth level on the standard scale.]'

You would know this if you were a lawyer. You don't know it because you're not.

Fatbaz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:15 am ....

And, yes, as a matter of fact, it is a criminal offence to claim to be a lawyer if you are not.

The Solicitors Act, 1974, Section 21: 'Any unqualified person who willfully pretends to be, or takes or uses any name, title, addition or description implying that, he is qualified or recognised by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to [F1 a fine not exceeding the fourth level on the standard scale.]'

You would know this if you were a lawyer. You don't know it because you're not.

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 am Why does mr spen appear to dominate this football board with repeated confrontation re his alleged job. Have I missed something about this guy Is he requiring constant attention and comments about his job and knowledge ?

UpminsterO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:15 am Why does mr spen appear to dominate this football board with repeated confrontation re his alleged job. Have I missed something about this guy Is he requiring constant attention and comments about his job and knowledge ?

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 am What I don’t understand is why, on this forum, many seem to dislike a boarder with real knowledge and experience in a particular field. Me, I welcome educated input from Lawyers, Teachers etc. Why not?

I’ll tell you why not. Some people like spouting off about things they know F-all about and get arsey when corrected by people who actually know. Me, I’m happy to be corrected by someone who really knows.

I’ve long past come to the conclusion that know-it-all types don’t like people who actually do know something based on education and experience. As they say, why let facts spoil a good story. Maybe I’m wrong!

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:16 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 am What I don’t understand is why, on this forum, many seem to dislike a boarder with real knowledge and experience in a particular field. Me, I welcome educated input from Lawyers, Teachers etc. Why not?

I’ll tell you why not. Some people like spouting off about things they know F-all about and get arsey when corrected by people who actually know. Me, I’m happy to be corrected by someone who really knows.

I’ve long past come to the conclusion that know-it-all types don’t like people who actually do know something based on education and experience. As they say, why let facts spoil a good story. Maybe I’m wrong!

You're wrong.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:16 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:51 am What I don’t understand is why, on this forum, many seem to dislike a boarder with real knowledge and experience in a particular field. Me, I welcome educated input from Lawyers, Teachers etc. Why not?

I’ll tell you why not. Some people like spouting off about things they know F-all about and get arsey when corrected by people who actually know. Me, I’m happy to be corrected by someone who really knows.

I’ve long past come to the conclusion that know-it-all types don’t like people who actually do know something based on education and experience. As they say, why let facts spoil a good story. Maybe I’m wrong!

You're wrong.

Have been before, will be again. Strikes me I’m the only person on this forum ever to admit to being wrong. I think that alone makes my comments right.

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:51 pm Actually Baz, you were the first to claim that he wasn't, so prove it or shut up.

Fatbaz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 pm

Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:51 pm Actually Baz, you were the first to claim that he wasn't, so prove it or shut up.

As I've already pointed out, I don't have to prove that Spen isn't a lawyer, barrister or solicitor. He has claimed to be both a lawyer and a solicitor. The burden of proof is his, not mine.

If I claimed to have played in two FA Cup Finals you'd want proof, wouldn't you? Surely you wouldn't just accept what I say?

Fatbaz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:40 pm

Disoriented wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:04 pm What is the purpose of this thread?

I suspect that Spen is trying to spark a debate in which he'll be able to strut his funky imaginary legal credentials.

He pretends to be 'a lawyer' and seeks to inject legal discussions into almost everything that he posts.

He's not a lawyer; he's a fantasist who craves attention.

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:28 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:16 pm

You're wrong.

Have been before, will be again. Strikes me I’m the only person on this forum ever to admit to being wrong. I think that alone makes my comments right.

Nope, still wrong I'm afraid.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:18 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:28 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pm

Have been before, will be again. Strikes me I’m the only person on this forum ever to admit to being wrong. I think that alone makes my comments right.

Nope, still wrong I'm afraid.

I can live with it if that’s the case. Of course you may be in the ranks of the know-it-all’s. In which case you will say I’m wrong. What else would you say.

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:28 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:16 pm

You're wrong.

Have been before, will be again. Strikes me I’m the only person on this forum ever to admit to being wrong. I think that alone makes my comments right.

Nope, still wrong I'm afraid.

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:27 pm

BoniO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:28 pm

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:39 pm

Have been before, will be again. Strikes me I’m the only person on this forum ever to admit to being wrong. I think that alone makes my comments right.

Nope, still wrong I'm afraid.

If you say so.

Fatbaz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:43 pm Spen

Matters arising II

You say, “Wrong, I am not claiming anything.”

Yes you are. You have variously claimed to be a solicitor and a lawyer (see above). Your claims are contradictory and you’ve not explained why. I say that you are neither a solicitor or a lawyer. You have been given ample opportunity to prove that you are, professionally, what you claim to be. You’ve failed to offer any proof that you are legally qualified. Therefore, you are in breach of Section 21.

You say, “I am defending myself against accusations from others.”

Not so. You have made no attempt whatsoever to defend yourself. Proving that one is a lawyer, barrister or solicitor is easy. You’ve offered no proof at all. You simply throw up flak and evade the question.

You say, “I have no need or desire to prove anything about myself..”

That’s true, you’re not obliged to. However, given the nature of of my challenge, and the ease with which you could disprove it – if you were able – there is only one possible conclusion to be drawn from your inability/refusal to do so.

slacker wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:52 pm It’s not hard to find out about spenny online. Took me about 2 minutes to 1) find his blog 2) link to his fb profile c) connect the name up as a bona fide solicitor.

Fatbaz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:31 pm Spen,

Good news.

This will be my last posting on this topic. I don't find it very edifying to watch somebody squirm and whine as you're doing.

So...

You could tell me, in confidence, who you are, but you won't.

You claim that you could tell me your name on the roll of solicitors but, again, you won't.

I'm satisfied that you're not a solicitor, lawyer and/or barrister.

This was your big chance to prove that you really did work within the legal profession. You flunked it.