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O my gawd wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:17 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:05 pm Unfortunately looked good for large spells, but ultimately in the football league, if you switch off, then you pay. Ask
Mansfield.

I told myself I’d lay off Ross today on here but I’m afraid that collapse was almost all down to poor selection, poor in game management and wrong subs.

Brophy can not, and has never, been able to defend. To put him in a back 4, with no third centre back cover, nor a winger to to track back for foolish and showed inexperience.

Brill - 6 - made a couple of saves he’d expect to make, look shaken a couple of times, spilling simple saves.

Brophy - 4 - never really got going attackingly and was targeted defensively, getting caught in behind about a thousand times. The winner came from his lack of effort blocking a cross.
Coulson - 5 - looked a bit weak and shattered tbh
Ekpiteta- 4 - been championing him but looked sh*t today. Got bullied by Palmer and just not good enough.
Ling - 6 - was having an ok game until the injury.

Wright - 7 - ran the first half. Some great balls and an outstanding goal. Tired at the end.
Clay - 7 - similar to Wright. Through himself at everything first half and faded second.
JMD - 6 - won the pen but honestly, we need more from him. I’m a fan but he’s a luxury we need to perform.

Dennis - 8 - our best player. Skilful and has a football brain. No idea why we kept moving him across the front three and made him move centrally when Alabi came on.
Angol - 5 - silky skills aren’t good enough if you are missing easy chances. Good pen.
Wilkinson - 5 - can’t fault the effort but to in and out of games.

Subs:
Judd - 6 - thought he got up to speed well. May have been at fault for a couple of the goals though, will have to watch again.
Alabi - 6 - why? Can’t fault his performance as he did ok, but why did he came on? Was never going to score in a decade of Sunday’s.
Gorman - 3 - can we just get rid? Hasn’t showed up to one game in a year and a half. Don’t think he completed a pass

Ross - 3 - Brophy at LB in the formation was a mistake. Play Ogie, or give him a winger who protects him. We are winning 2-1 and brought in a holding midfielder in the week, why are you not bringing him on for one of 3 tiring forwards and packing midfield? Instead we carry on attacking and then bring on Alabi? Showed our lack of squad depth really but at 2-1 with 20 to go, let’s get a bit tighter, yeah?
Do Judd is at fault for a couple of goals & gets the same mark as Ling & higher marks than Ekpiteta, Coulson & Brophy 😂😂😂
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Judd was at fault for a couple of goals??? :lol:
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I don’t know what some people were watching, Alabi was excellent .
Playing Brophy as a full back was dumb, and he was run ragged all game.
I really like ogie, he is a beast of a player, or Happe there, but we paid the price of trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:51 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:29 pm No cover LB is ridiculous at this level. Either play those youth players or get a signing in. Also think we need some L1 / L2 experience in CB. Coulson has the brain but not sure if the body can keep up.
Brophy at LB is absolutely fine at home when the onus is on us to attack.
Disagree, the LB needs to be defensively sound as their first role. If they can combine that with going forward like Lockwood and Daniels fair enough but Brophy is a winger trying to switch off his out and out attack mode.
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Redcard wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:24 pm I don’t know what some people were watching, Alabi was excellent .
:lol:

I’m sure he’s a lovely bloke and all that. And I’m sure he’ll find his level eventually. But it definitely ain’t L2 standard, especially when we’re trying to play so intricately.
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Redcard wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:24 pm I don’t know what some people were watching, Alabi was excellent
Define excellent lol. I saw him buzz around a bit, get to a loose ball then barely complete the pass to a red shirt at the end of it. All the finesse of bulldozer attempting to navigate a garden maze.
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gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:25 pm
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:51 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:29 pm No cover LB is ridiculous at this level. Either play those youth players or get a signing in. Also think we need some L1 / L2 experience in CB. Coulson has the brain but not sure if the body can keep up.
Brophy at LB is absolutely fine at home when the onus is on us to attack.
Disagree, the LB needs to be defensively sound as their first role. If they can combine that with going forward like Lockwood and Daniels fair enough but Brophy is a winger trying to switch off his out and out attack mode.
I don’t think he has an issue ‘switching off’ and playing the position. Even when playing on the wing he’d always be a grafter and get back in. But yeah, of course he’s not as strong as other natural left backs such as Widdowson.

I think it’s an acceptable risk to take at home when short, especially if the budget is tight and don’t want to waste it on a left back who will never otherwise play. But can understand others who’d rather have a more traditional left back.
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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:41 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:25 pm
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:51 pm

Brophy at LB is absolutely fine at home when the onus is on us to attack.
Disagree, the LB needs to be defensively sound as their first role. If they can combine that with going forward like Lockwood and Daniels fair enough but Brophy is a winger trying to switch off his out and out attack mode.
I don’t think he has an issue ‘switching off’ and playing the position. Even when playing on the wing he’d always be a grafter and get back in. But yeah, of course he’s not as strong as other natural left backs such as Widdowson.

I think it’s an acceptable risk to take at home when short, especially if the budget is tight and don’t want to waste it on a left back who will never otherwise play. But can understand others who’d rather have a more traditional left back.
Would still question why the budget is so tight given every time it comes up some posters reply with a quote off the (cringeworthy) podcasts about how there's plenty of funds available.

Need competition and cover for these key positions. If the youth aren't good enough for it despite being in the first team squad send them out on loan to either become up to standard or be shipped out. Putting Brophy at LB also then removes the option to bring on a fresh wide / skillful player so you lose out in two areas.
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RoryRocks wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:18 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:05 pm Unfortunately looked good for large spells, but ultimately in the football league, if you switch off, then you pay. Ask
Mansfield.

I told myself I’d lay off Ross today on here but I’m afraid that collapse was almost all down to poor selection, poor in game management and wrong subs.

Brophy can not, and has never, been able to defend. To put him in a back 4, with no third centre back cover, nor a winger to to track back for foolish and showed inexperience.

Brill - 6 - made a couple of saves he’d expect to make, look shaken a couple of times, spilling simple saves.

Brophy - 4 - never really got going attackingly and was targeted defensively, getting caught in behind about a thousand times. The winner came from his lack of effort blocking a cross.
Coulson - 5 - looked a bit weak and shattered tbh
Ekpiteta- 4 - been championing him but looked sh*t today. Got bullied by Palmer and just not good enough.
Ling - 6 - was having an ok game until the injury.

Wright - 7 - ran the first half. Some great balls and an outstanding goal. Tired at the end.
Clay - 7 - similar to Wright. Through himself at everything first half and faded second.
JMD - 6 - won the pen but honestly, we need more from him. I’m a fan but he’s a luxury we need to perform.

Dennis - 8 - our best player. Skilful and has a football brain. No idea why we kept moving him across the front three and made him move centrally when Alabi came on.
Angol - 5 - silky skills aren’t good enough if you are missing easy chances. Good pen.
Wilkinson - 5 - can’t fault the effort but to in and out of games.

Subs:
Judd - 6 - thought he got up to speed well. May have been at fault for a couple of the goals though, will have to watch again.
Alabi - 6 - why? Can’t fault his performance as he did ok, but why did he came on? Was never going to score in a decade of Sunday’s.
Gorman - 3 - can we just get rid? Hasn’t showed up to one game in a year and a half. Don’t think he completed a pass

Ross - 3 - Brophy at LB in the formation was a mistake. Play Ogie, or give him a winger who protects him. We are winning 2-1 and brought in a holding midfielder in the week, why are you not bringing him on for one of 3 tiring forwards and packing midfield? Instead we carry on attacking and then bring on Alabi? Showed our lack of squad depth really but at 2-1 with 20 to go, let’s get a bit tighter, yeah?
Moaner in chief. Some of these ratings are nonsense. Who would be a manager? Some people on here are mad for Ross to fail. Yes, I would have brought on Gorman when we were 2-1 up and I would have brought Harrold on instead of Alabi at that stage in the game. Managers do make mistakes but this team will learn from It. Some of the team will cut it and some of these players may not cut it over the season. Time will tell.
Cheers mystic meg. I was doing ratings for today’s game, not in 2020.

If having a bit of a moan at losing to Crawley, at home, after being in the lead, whilst still giving two 7s and an 8 rating is moaner in chief, I’ll take it.
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Moaner in chief. Some of these ratings are nonsense. Who would be a manager? Some people on here are mad for Ross to fail. Yes, I would have brought on Gorman when we were 2-1 up and I would have brought Harrold on instead of Alabi at that stage in the game. Managers do make mistakes but this team will learn from It. Some of the team will cut it and some of these players may not cut it over the season. Time will tell.
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Cheers mystic meg. I was doing ratings for today’s game, not in 2020.

If having a bit of a moan at losing to Crawley, at home, after being in the lead, whilst still giving two 7s and an 8 rating is moaner in chief, I’ll take it.
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Nobody is happy loosing a game that we were in the lead twice today. In a positive note, we couldn't score a few weeks ago, 5 in 2 games is progress. At one point today, we we joint top.
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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:10 pm Lots of nonsense being posted on this thread.

Some of the football played today was incredible for this level. I can’t remember getting out of my seat so many times in a game. We clearly need to tighten up at the back but must persist with this way of playing.
Maybe , but what Apple Wumble said was spot on.
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RoryRocks wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:00 pm Nobody is happy loosing a game that we were in the lead twice today. In a positive note, we couldn't score a few weeks ago, 5 in 2 games is progress. At one point today, we we joint top.
If we win that game you're seeing 7s and 8s all round but those errors by definition are going to knock points off. Which particular ones would you say are harsh?
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I'm guessing only Gormans is harsh, according to their post history.
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Ollie Palmer - carrying a lot of timber. He was given so much time in the penalty area - made him look a real talent. Their first goal - many time it should have been cleared.
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Wonder what it’s like the have a forward on the bench you can bring up if you need a goal or two.
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RoryRocks wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:00 pm Moaner in chief. Some of these ratings are nonsense. Who would be a manager? Some people on here are mad for Ross to fail. Yes, I would have brought on Gorman when we were 2-1 up and I would have brought Harrold on instead of Alabi at that stage in the game. Managers do make mistakes but this team will learn from It. Some of the team will cut it and some of these players may not cut it over the season. Time will tell.
Cheers mystic meg. I was doing ratings for today’s game, not in 2020.

If having a bit of a moan at losing to Crawley, at home, after being in the lead, whilst still giving two 7s and an 8 rating is moaner in chief, I’ll take it.
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Nobody is happy loosing a game that we were in the lead twice today. In a positive note, we couldn't score a few weeks ago, 5 in 2 games is progress. At one point today, we we joint top.
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Of course, and it’s early days but personally I think that come the end of the season, we will rue picking up 1 point from Stevenage and Crawley at home. Performances don’t matter much.
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Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:16 pm Wonder what it’s like the have a forward on the bench you can bring up if you need a goal or two.
This is the problem.

Everyone queries the subs made but there’s such a lack of quality on the bench.
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100%. Tbh picking between Alabi and Harrold I feel a bit harsh in Ross.
Hopefully we just admit defeat and pay up Alabi and bring in someone else.
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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:18 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:16 pm Wonder what it’s like the have a forward on the bench you can bring up if you need a goal or two.
This is the problem.

Everyone queries the subs made but there’s such a lack of quality on the bench.
There is but the game was set for Harrold today imo. Crawley defenders needed something else to think about as Wilkinson was tiring after being battered all match.

In midfield Clay was tiring well before he came off, was like that the other week too and we had a like for like replacement waiting on the bench.

I think we had the options we needed today but didn't utilise them well.
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gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:21 pm
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:18 pm
Apple Wumble wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:16 pm Wonder what it’s like the have a forward on the bench you can bring up if you need a goal or two.
This is the problem.

Everyone queries the subs made but there’s such a lack of quality on the bench.
There is but the game was set for Harrold today imo. Crawley defenders needed something else to think about as Wilkinson was tiring after being battered all match.

In midfield Clay was tiring well before he came off, was like that the other week too and we had a like for like replacement waiting on the bench.

I think we had the options we needed today but didn't utilise them well.
What do you mean we "didn't utilise them well ",We didn't utilise them at all . It should have been Harrold for Wilkinson and Marsh for Clay but it didn't happen.
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RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:46 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:21 pm
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:18 pm

This is the problem.

Everyone queries the subs made but there’s such a lack of quality on the bench.
There is but the game was set for Harrold today imo. Crawley defenders needed something else to think about as Wilkinson was tiring after being battered all match.

In midfield Clay was tiring well before he came off, was like that the other week too and we had a like for like replacement waiting on the bench.

I think we had the options we needed today but didn't utilise them well.
What do you mean we "didn't utilise them well ",We didn't utilise them at all . It should have been Harrold for Wilkinson and Marsh for Clay but it didn't happen.
This👆🏾 I agree with
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CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:10 pm Lots of nonsense being posted on this thread.

Some of the football played today was incredible for this level. I can’t remember getting out of my seat so many times in a game. We clearly need to tighten up at the back but must persist with this way of playing.
Totally agree. Crawley came to attack and it was always going to be back and forth. My one criticism would be that when Ross saw how positive Crawley were he never asked Clay to sit in front of the back four. Suspect we may end up sacrificing JMD for Marsh next week which is no bad thing.
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MrB wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:48 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:46 pm
gshaw wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:21 pm

There is but the game was set for Harrold today imo. Crawley defenders needed something else to think about as Wilkinson was tiring after being battered all match.

In midfield Clay was tiring well before he came off, was like that the other week too and we had a like for like replacement waiting on the bench.

I think we had the options we needed today but didn't utilise them well.
What do you mean we "didn't utilise them well ",We didn't utilise them at all . It should have been Harrold for Wilkinson and Marsh for Clay but it didn't happen.
This👆🏾 I agree with
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Maybe we should get COYOS Wumble Gshaw and Red Dwarf in the dug out for the next game
Show those amateurs how it’s done eh boys
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jamespevans wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:49 pm
CreamofSumYungGai wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:10 pm Lots of nonsense being posted on this thread.

Some of the football played today was incredible for this level. I can’t remember getting out of my seat so many times in a game. We clearly need to tighten up at the back but must persist with this way of playing.
Totally agree. Crawley came to attack and it was always going to be back and forth. My one criticism would be that when Ross saw how positive Crawley were he never asked Clay to sit in front of the back four. Suspect we may end up sacrificing JMD for Marsh next week which is no bad thing.
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Ling was at fault for the first, Wright for the second and the whole bloody defence for the third!

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... -3-crawley
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