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Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:50 am
by oriboy
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:20 am
Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:14 am
Is not the ASDA store economically viable? With all the new flats being built, does Leyton not require at least one supermarket?
This is the ironic cherry on the ironic cake of this thread really, as the plan for the Retail Park is more (dense) housing, not a football stadium.
Firstly, the amount of housing built on that site could be less than you think. Remember Uncle Bazza will have a nice bit of land to develop further up the road, to provide the housing part of the deal.
Secondly, Asda could be incorporated into the ground ala Crystal palace and Sainsbury's. There could also be retail units, hotel and leisure facilities for the local (growing) community.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
by OyinbO
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:50 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:20 am
Give it to Jabo wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:14 am
Is not the ASDA store economically viable? With all the new flats being built, does Leyton not require at least one supermarket?
This is the ironic cherry on the ironic cake of this thread really, as the plan for the Retail Park is more (dense) housing, not a football stadium.
Firstly, the amount of housing built on that site could be less than you think. Remember Uncle Bazza will have a nice bit of land to develop further up the road, to provide the housing part of the deal.
Secondly, Asda could be incorporated into the ground ala Crystal palace and Sainsbury's. There could also be retail units, hotel and leisure facilities for the local (growing) community.
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
by oriboy
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:50 am
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:20 am
This is the ironic cherry on the ironic cake of this thread really, as the plan for the Retail Park is more (dense) housing, not a football stadium.
Firstly, the amount of housing built on that site could be less than you think. Remember Uncle Bazza will have a nice bit of land to develop further up the road, to provide the housing part of the deal.
Secondly, Asda could be incorporated into the ground ala Crystal palace and Sainsbury's. There could also be retail units, hotel and leisure facilities for the local (growing) community.
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Drapers field?
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:31 pm
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:50 am
Firstly, the amount of housing built on that site could be less than you think. Remember Uncle Bazza will have a nice bit of land to develop further up the road, to provide the housing part of the deal.
Secondly, Asda could be incorporated into the ground ala Crystal palace and Sainsbury's. There could also be retail units, hotel and leisure facilities for the local (growing) community.
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Drapers field?
25% bigger footprint ...
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:26 pm
by Lifelongfan
Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:31 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Drapers field?
25% bigger footprint ...
Would that area be protected as a leisure area?
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
by LPE
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:50 am
Firstly, the amount of housing built on that site could be less than you think. Remember Uncle Bazza will have a nice bit of land to develop further up the road, to provide the housing part of the deal.
Secondly, Asda could be incorporated into the ground ala Crystal palace and Sainsbury's. There could also be retail units, hotel and leisure facilities for the local (growing) community.
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Drapers field?
That’s where my money is.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:38 pm
by Orient_Man_And_Boy
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Drapers field?
That’s where my money is.
The Birkbeck would explode under the pressure ...
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:19 pm
by OyinbO
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Drapers field?
That’s where my money is.
hope you didn't put the mortgage on it
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:43 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
OyinbO wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:26 pm
It's almost certainly not ASDA mate, but don't worry - it won't be too far away
Drapers field?
That’s where my money is.
I thought Drapers field came under Newham , E15. so outside of Waltham Forest . I was under the impression that the club and the council wanted us to stay inside the boundary Waltham Forest . If so it's not Drapers field .
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:59 pm
by PKM
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:43 pm
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
Drapers field?
That’s where my money is.
I thought Drapers field came under Newham , E15. so outside of Waltham Forest . I was under the impression that the club and the council wanted us to stay inside the boundary Waltham Forest . If so it's not Drapers field .
Drapers Field is in Waltham Forest
Address given as Leyton as well.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:02 pm
by LPE
Orient_Man_And_Boy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:38 pm
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
Drapers field?
That’s where my money is.
The Birkbeck would explode under the pressure ...
It would be the Dirty Harold that would see a huge boost. The Eagle would also receive a massive financial shot in the arm with two stadium’s equidistant.
The Birky and NC wouldn’t likely see a change. The Coach however would likely see an impact.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:03 pm
by LPE
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:43 pm
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:20 pm
Drapers field?
That’s where my money is.
I thought Drapers field came under Newham , E15. so outside of Waltham Forest . I was under the impression that the club and the council wanted us to stay inside the boundary Waltham Forest . If so it's not Drapers field .
It is just inside LBWF.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:52 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:03 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:43 pm
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
That’s where my money is.
I thought Drapers field came under Newham , E15. so outside of Waltham Forest . I was under the impression that the club and the council wanted us to stay inside the boundary Waltham Forest . If so it's not Drapers field .
It is just inside LBWF.
OK. So it is a possibility . I suppose time will tell .
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:43 am
by Jaggsy1979
Drapers should be within LBWF as Norlington School used it for Games for my last few years there (early 90s), after no longer being able to use Ive Farm - dont know where they go now since Drapers was converted
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:00 am
by Hoover Attack
oriboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 11:50 am
Remember Uncle Bazza will have a nice bit of land to develop further up the road, to provide the housing part of the deal.
Would be hilarious if that doesn't happen and the sporting covenant has to remain. Turn it into a skate park or something.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:21 am
by Jaggsy1979
Didnt the ACV (Asset of Community Value) prevent the ground from being used as anything other than a sporting venue? and how long do those things last anyway?
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:21 am
by e15O
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:03 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:43 pm
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:27 pm
That’s where my money is.
I thought Drapers field came under Newham , E15. so outside of Waltham Forest . I was under the impression that the club and the council wanted us to stay inside the boundary Waltham Forest . If so it's not Drapers field .
It is just inside LBWF.
It’s definitely within Waltham Forest, the boundaries are the train line to the west of it and Crownfield Road to the south. However, there’s no way that Drapers Field is big enough for a stadium when you consider a car park, coach parking, etc. I’m no expert on construction but would also think the proximity to the train and underground tracks probably impacts on what can/can’t be done.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:27 am
by Hoover Attack
Jaggsy1979 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:21 am
Didnt the ACV (Asset of Community Value) prevent the ground from being used as anything other than a sporting venue? and how long do those things last anyway?
If we've been relocated, pretty sure that will be removed without too much trouble. And has been said above, it's likely to be part of any deal struck.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:28 am
by Max B Gold
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:27 am
Jaggsy1979 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:21 am
Didnt the ACV (Asset of Community Value) prevent the ground from being used as anything other than a sporting venue? and how long do those things last anyway?
If we've been relocated, pretty sure that will be removed without too much trouble. And has been said above, it's likely to be part of any deal struck.
How long is our lease on the ground?
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:33 am
by WGC O
Spitalfields
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:02 am
by Celtient
Hackney Marshes. We could have a 100,000 seater stadium there which would just about meet our needs in the top flight
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:17 am
by RedDwarf 1881
e15O wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:21 am
LPE wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:03 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 7:43 pm
I thought Drapers field came under Newham , E15. so outside of Waltham Forest . I was under the impression that the club and the council wanted us to stay inside the boundary Waltham Forest . If so it's not Drapers field .
It is just inside LBWF.
It’s definitely within Waltham Forest, the boundaries are the train line to the west of it and Crownfield Road to the south. However, there’s no way that Drapers Field is big enough for a stadium when you consider a car park, coach parking, etc. I’m no expert on construction but would also think the proximity to the train and underground tracks probably impacts on what can/can’t be done.
Actually, I hope it’s not Drapers field . That puts us even nearer to West Ham at the Olympic Stadium. If anything I hope it’s back towards Walthamstow or the Walthamstow/Clapton border
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:30 am
by StillSpike
Why would it need car / coach parking ? Our current stadium doesn't have either (other than the few places under the West Stand). I'd imagine 21st century planning rules would be against providing car parking and encouraging use of public transport.
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:35 am
by e15O
StillSpike wrote: ↑Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:30 am
Why would it need car / coach parking ? Our current stadium doesn't have either (other than the few places under the West Stand). I'd imagine 21st century planning rules would be against providing car parking and encouraging use of public transport.
Do you think the away team and staff walk from Leyton tube station?
Re: ASDA site?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 11:35 am
by PKM
If you look at Brentford’s Gtech stadium they have minimal parking, enough for a coach or two, very little beyond that