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Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:57 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:54 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:24 pm Seen plenty of Marshy. Absolutely bizarre signing. Defensive midfielder who gets it and gives it super simple. Doesn't score. Doesn't assist. Doesn't get forward. He's a good young player that Pochettino likes but he's basically Josh Wright minus the occasional pass forward.

Defensive midfielder who doesn't pass forward , that's not what we needed. We needed a box to box midfielder like Dawson or Vinelot was .

It's been discussed several times on other threads how bringing in a defensive midfielder can help the team. Neither Vincelot nor Dawson were particularly creative either. And stop with the nonsense about not passing forward, FFS.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:58 pm**

Give the guy and Ross' judgement a chance.

Good luck to you George. Enjoy your stay in East London.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:59 pm**

Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:56 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:33 pm
eagwgw wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:27 pm Said he can play centre-back but on the one Youtube clip out there he looks tiny... surely not.
Would have preferred someone experienced to be fair, think we are lacking leadership on the pitch without Jobi.

Can't see him displacing either Clay or Wright to start, so it'll probably be Gorman's place on the bench which is gone.
He has played there for the development side but only in games where the opposition don't have great forwards. He's 5'7" so he definitely cannot be relied upon at centre back.
According to available information on the internet about George Marsh, he is 1.6 meters tall, that is 5'3'' in feet and inches.
To compare, Dean Cox height is 1.63 meters tall, 5'4'' tall in feet and inches.

Wikipedia information on Georgew Marsh below.

George Marsh (footballer, born 1998)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ma ... born_1998)
Date of birth 5 November 1998 (age 20)
Place of birth Pembury, Kent, England
Height 5'3"
Playing position Midfielder
Club information
Current team
Tottenham Hotspur
Number 47
Youth career
2015–2018 Tottenham Hotspur
Senior career*
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2018– Tottenham Hotspur 0 (0)

Be surprised if he was that short. Always had him pegged at about 5'6 / 5'7".

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:01 pm**

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:57 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:54 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:24 pm Seen plenty of Marshy. Absolutely bizarre signing. Defensive midfielder who gets it and gives it super simple. Doesn't score. Doesn't assist. Doesn't get forward. He's a good young player that Pochettino likes but he's basically Josh Wright minus the occasional pass forward.

Defensive midfielder who doesn't pass forward , that's not what we needed. We needed a box to box midfielder like Dawson or Vinelot was .
It's been discussed several times on other threads how bringing in a defensive midfielder can help the team. Neither Vincelot nor Dawson were particularly creative either. And stop with the nonsense about not passing forward, FFS.

I'm going by what "Eat The Rich " said who's seen him play , FFS.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:04 pm**

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:59 pm
Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:56 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:33 pm

He has played there for the development side but only in games where the opposition don't have great forwards. He's 5'7" so he definitely cannot be relied upon at centre back.
According to available information on the internet about George Marsh, he is 1.6 meters tall, that is 5'3'' in feet and inches.
To compare, Dean Cox height is 1.63 meters tall, 5'4'' tall in feet and inches.

Wikipedia information on George Marsh below.

George Marsh (footballer, born 1998)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ma ... born_1998)
Date of birth 5 November 1998 (age 20)
Place of birth Pembury, Kent, England
Height 5'3"
Playing position Midfielder
Club information
Current team
Tottenham Hotspur
Number 47
Youth career
2015–2018 Tottenham Hotspur
Senior career*
Years Team Apps (Gls)
2018– Tottenham Hotspur 0 (0)
Be surprised if he was that short. Always had him pegged at about 5'6 / 5'7".

@"Eat The Rich"
I Googled his name and several sources all give the same answer, e.g 5'3'' (1.6 M )
Also Wikipedia say the same.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:05 pm**

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:01 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:57 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:54 pm

Defensive midfielder who doesn't pass forward , that's not what we needed. We needed a box to box midfielder like Dawson or Vinelot was .
It's been discussed several times on other threads how bringing in a defensive midfielder can help the team. Neither Vincelot nor Dawson were particularly creative either. And stop with the nonsense about not passing forward, FFS.
I'm going by what "Eat The Rich " said who's seen him play , FFS.

Not questioning ETR's assessment of him as a player, just saying that type of player even if not creative himself can improve the balance of the team by being able to play in a 2 in midfield allowing Wright or whoever plays next to him to play further forward and give us the option to change formation if necessary

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:06 pm**

Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:05 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:01 pm
Millennial Snowflake wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:57 pm

It's been discussed several times on other threads how bringing in a defensive midfielder can help the team. Neither Vincelot nor Dawson were particularly creative either. And stop with the nonsense about not passing forward, FFS.
I'm going by what "Eat The Rich " said who's seen him play , FFS.
Not questioning ETR's assessment of him as a player, just saying that type of player even if not creative himself can improve the balance of the team by being able to play in a 2 in midfield allowing Wright or whoever plays next to him to play further forward and give us the option to change formation if necessary

Fair enough.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:09 pm**

If Spurs gave him a new contract, eight weeks ago, it must mean they rate him. That'll do for me. He'll do fine for us

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:10 pm**

If he really is as little as the stats say (and the photo with Ross backs it up), he must be one hell of a player if Spurs think he's got a chance of making it.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:11 pm**

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:50 pm I want to make clear that I like Marsh and that if we needed a holding player (I wouldn't call Marsh a ball winner as such) then he'd have been a very good signing. The fact is that we don't. We needed an offensive midfielder.

We've got offensive midfielders coming out our ear'oles. We needed a tackler, we've now got one.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:17 pm**

ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:09 pm If Spurs gave him a new contract, eight weeks ago, it must mean they rate him. That'll do for me. He'll do fine for us

If he proves to be as good as the last Spurs youngsters we've had , actually that will do for me as well.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:29 pm**

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:50 pm I want to make clear that I like Marsh and that if we needed a holding player (I wouldn't call Marsh a ball winner as such) then he'd have been a very good signing. The fact is that we don't. We needed an offensive midfielder.

I whole heartedly agree. An attacking central midfielder is what we've been crying out for for quite some time. I hoped Gorman would step up but it hasn't happened.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:34 pm**

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:10 pm If he really is as little as the stats say (and the photo with Ross backs it up), he must be one hell of a player if Spurs think he's got a chance of making it.

Tommy Carroll was pretty petite, wasn't he?

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:36 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:08 pm Plays right back as well as midfield. Bench warmer.

Beat you're fun at parties

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:36 pm**

We needed experience - Marsh is not it.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:36 pm**

5'10" it says on Wiki (for Carroll), but I'm not convinced.

That Addai who played against us for Cheltenham on the opening day was pretty tiny too, and his wiki claims he's 5'8", which seems... optimistic

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:37 pm**

Joe_Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:29 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:50 pm I want to make clear that I like Marsh and that if we needed a holding player (I wouldn't call Marsh a ball winner as such) then he'd have been a very good signing. The fact is that we don't. We needed an offensive midfielder.
I whole heartedly agree. An attacking central midfielder is what we've been crying out for for quite some time. I hoped Gorman would step up but it hasn't happened.

We have 3-4 already. We were never going to get another one.

Glad to see we're already writing this guy off, much like our season after 3 games and 4 points

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:39 pm**

Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:37 pm
Joe_Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:29 pm
Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:50 pm I want to make clear that I like Marsh and that if we needed a holding player (I wouldn't call Marsh a ball winner as such) then he'd have been a very good signing. The fact is that we don't. We needed an offensive midfielder.
I whole heartedly agree. An attacking central midfielder is what we've been crying out for for quite some time. I hoped Gorman would step up but it hasn't happened.
We have 3-4 already. We were never going to get another one.

Glad to see we're already writing this guy off, much like our season after 3 games and 4 points

Who's writing him off? He's just not the type of midfielder most of us felt we needed. He's too similar to what we already have.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:42 pm**

'most of us'?

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:45 pm**

CreamofSumYungGai wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:10 pm If he really is as little as the stats say (and the photo with Ross backs it up), he must be one hell of a player if Spurs think he's got a chance of making it.

Ross was standing on a box!

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:47 pm**

We need an experienced, tough ball carrying midfielder who can win a few balls...

Lingy brings in 5ft3 kid who's never played mens football before, and couldn't carry the shopping home by the looks of him.

All (semi) jokes aside, welcome George and all the best.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:49 pm**

I would love it if he was my drinking partner ( he is shorter than me )

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:55 pm**

I don’t know the first thing about this kid but I do know I’m not worried in the least about his height! There’s been plenty of good little ‘uns over the years and here’s hoping this lad will be another. Welcome on board George - go get ‘em son!

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:56 pm**

dOh Nut wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:08 pm Plays right back as well as midfield. Bench warmer.

You thought any new signing from now would go straight into the first team?!

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:58 pm**

Eat The Rich wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:39 pm
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:37 pm
Joe_Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:29 pm

I whole heartedly agree. An attacking central midfielder is what we've been crying out for for quite some time. I hoped Gorman would step up but it hasn't happened.
We have 3-4 already. We were never going to get another one.

Glad to see we're already writing this guy off, much like our season after 3 games and 4 points
Who's writing him off? He's just not the type of midfielder most of us felt we needed. He's too similar to what we already have.

With all due respect, 'most of us' don't know who he is & really wouldn't know what we need.
I've read we need a tough tackling defensive midfielder which I'm led to believe Marsh is. We also need experience, why? I'd rather take a young player with potential than a 31 year old who's been in League 2 all his career.
Then we need an attacking Midfielder, because Brophy, JMD & Dennis isn't enough. At this rate we'll have a squad of 35 players

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