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Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:27 pm
by Long slender neck
Just what are people so pissed off about? Literally nothing has happened compared to the previous bunch
Must be signed by far right bots/russians
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:32 pm
by BoniO
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:20 pm
Pugwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:13 pm
Still a long way to go to beat the brexit petitions, 4 & 6 million signed those.
Yeah, people were bragging at the time they managed to sign it multiple times . Don’t ask me how because I don’t know .
Even if multiple signing is possible, do you seriously think that the same wouldn't happen with this latest poll for a new election? Engage your brain man.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:51 pm
by Hoover Attack
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:27 pm
Just what are people so pissed off about? Literally nothing has happened compared to the previous bunch
Must be signed by far right bots/russians
I know lots of people who will have signed this. I firmly believe it's genuine.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:27 pm
by Dohnut
Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:51 am
EastDerehamO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:54 am
I’d love to see a General Election and Labour voted out, but we live in a democracy and our version of it has given is a Labour government, which given their majority will likely be there for 4-5 years.
As with Brexit, when I saw thousands protest against it, I felt they were protesting against democracy, and similarly right now, agree of disagree with Labour, they got voted in and we live with them. so no matter how many people want another election soon, it’s not going to happen, just accept it.
Of course another election won’t happen. Everyone knows that. But that’s not the point, how else do people show their displeasure at what is going on? And send messages to those in charge? This is a good a route as any. 2 million +/- a questionable small percentage, voicing an opinion. It’s why the petition system exists. Communication and feedback.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:32 pm
by Long slender neck
You could post the word 'shambles' on a 3rd division soccer teams fan forum, I'm sure a couple of the MPs frequent here.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:46 pm
by Pugwash
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:20 pm
Pugwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:13 pm
Still a long way to go to beat the brexit petitions, 4 & 6 million signed those.
Yeah, people were bragging at the time they managed to sign it multiple times . Don’t ask me how because I don’t know .
Multiple E mail accounts & false names at a guess. Waste of time as like this nothing will happen.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:51 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:48 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:37 am
But you will get another election.
In four or five years time . You Remoaner's can have another referendum in 40 years time . That's the same length of time leavers had to wait from the previous referendum .
How often would you like general elections to take place, and can you give an example of a unique broken promise (ie, a promise with no equivalent precedent in modern history) that in your opinion should result in another general election.
Also it’d be quite useful to know how many signatures you think are necessary for it to be considered “the will of the people” to hold another election.
Looking forward to your answer mate!!!
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:54 pm
by Pugwash
CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:51 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:48 am
Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:37 am
But you will get another election.
In four or five years time . You Remoaner's can have another referendum in 40 years time . That's the same length of time leavers had to wait from the previous referendum .
How often would you like general elections to take place, and can you give an example of a unique broken promise (ie, a promise with no equivalent precedent in modern history) that in your opinion should result in another general election.
Also it’d be quite useful to know how many signatures you think are necessary for it to be considered “the will of the people” to hold another election.
Looking forward to your answer mate!!!
Didn't the tories have 5 2010-2024?
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:11 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
Let’s not get sidetracked. The Tories had five because of their internal issues, not out of respect for the electorate.
(I do find it very funny that during the existence of the fixed term parliament act, not one government ran for the full fixed term
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:17 pm
by BoniO
Pugwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:46 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:20 pm
Pugwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:13 pm
Still a long way to go to beat the brexit petitions, 4 & 6 million signed those.
Yeah, people were bragging at the time they managed to sign it multiple times . Don’t ask me how because I don’t know .
Multiple E mail accounts & false names at a guess. Waste of time as like this nothing will happen.
Just like this place then...
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:22 pm
by Pugwash
BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:17 pm
Pugwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:46 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:20 pm
Yeah, people were bragging at the time they managed to sign it multiple times . Don’t ask me how because I don’t know .
Multiple E mail accounts & false names at a guess. Waste of time as like this nothing will happen.
Just like this place then...
Possibly
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:58 pm
by Omygawd
Carol Vorderman has condemned the petition. That's all right then.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:11 pm
by CEB2ElectricBoogaloo
What a weird point
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:12 pm
by Long slender neck
Just looking at the signatories data, they're spread very evenly. Vast majority of constituencies have a four figure number of signatories, only a few have 3 figures. Seems a bit unusual to me. Almost as if bots are ensuring they spread their vote around.
Even 650 people in the outer hebrides constituency of 'Na h-Eileanan an Iar' put their name down.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:22 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
The Centerists Dads can’t just accept that their man might be a bit unpopular
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:15 pm
by StillSpike
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:12 pm
Just looking at the signatories data, they're spread very evenly. Vast majority of constituencies have a four figure number of signatories, only a few have 3 figures. Seems a bit unusual to me. Almost as if bots are ensuring they spread their vote around.
Even 650 people in the outer hebrides constituency of 'Na h-Eileanan an Iar' put their name down.
I wonder if such data exists for the previously mentioned remoaner petitions. Would be interesting to see if that follows similar spreads, or more closely follows the geographic split in the Referendum
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:38 pm
by RedDwarf 1881
BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:32 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:20 pm
Pugwash wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:13 pm
Still a long way to go to beat the brexit petitions, 4 & 6 million signed those.
Yeah, people were bragging at the time they managed to sign it multiple times . Don’t ask me how because I don’t know .
Even if multiple signing is possible, do you seriously think that the same wouldn't happen with this latest poll for a new election? Engage your brain man.
The difference is before people were bragging about it . On this occasion I haven’t heard anything
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:54 pm
by Yanzi Gravy
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:27 pm
Just what are people so pissed off about? Literally nothing has happened compared to the previous bunch
Must be signed by far right bots/russians
DId you miss the budget? Numerous industries saying it will stifle investment, lead to job losses and lead to rate rises.
Did you ,it’s the Farmers protesting last week?
In the past week Starmer has wound up the Chinese, Russians and Israelis in a triple whammy, helped with the useless Lammy.
Have you not read about Reeves CV?
And much more!
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:55 pm
by Yanzi Gravy
Omygawd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:58 pm
Carol Vorderman has condemned the petition. That's all right then.
She apparently is good at numbers except her age and vital statistics.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:12 pm
by Long slender neck
Yanzi Gravy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:54 pm
Long slender neck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:27 pm
Just what are people so pissed off about? Literally nothing has happened compared to the previous bunch
Must be signed by far right bots/russians
DId you miss the budget? Numerous industries saying it will stifle investment, lead to job losses and lead to rate rises.
Did you ,it’s the Farmers protesting last week?
All because both will have to pay their way and they're not used to it. Of course they're complaining
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:13 pm
by BoniO
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:22 pm
The Centerists Dads can’t just accept that their man might be a bit unpopular
I don't like Starmer, but still voted Labour to try and get rid of the scummy Tories. Labour have made way too many mistakes so far but the weight of criticism from the Media outlets and Social media channels is frankly ridiculous and completely disproportionate to his and Labours performance. It's an orchestrated attack on a democratically elected head of state.
Finally, would those members of the public currently villifying Starmer really want the Tories back?
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:17 pm
by Max B Gold
BoniO wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:13 pm
Currywurst and Chips wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:22 pm
The Centerists Dads can’t just accept that their man might be a bit unpopular
I don't like Starmer, but still voted Labour to try and get rid of the scummy Tories. Labour have made way too many mistakes so far but the weight of criticism from the Media outlets and Social media channels is frankly ridiculous and completely disproportionate to his and Labours performance. It's an orchestrated attack on a democratically elected head of state.
Finally, would those members of the public currently villifying Starmer really want the Tories back?
I thought it was Adolf Farage the public wanted but I am unsure.
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:35 pm
by Dunners
Even Michael Caine says call an election. What more do people want?
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:58 pm
by Currywurst and Chips
Michael Caine has endorsed an election – and Labour should be worried
Re: FAO Tories and UKIPers
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:32 pm
by Rich Tea Wellin
It’s all ridiculous isn’t it? Just another indication of entitlement and YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME IM IMPORTANT mindset.
Ironically the same people signing it who labelled people “remoaners” for wanting a reversal of a lot closer vote