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Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:15 pm
by Proposition Joe
Think I'm more likely to boo at home than away tbh. I do recall some decent booooos after we got pumped 5-0 at Doncaster once in the early 00s. Only reason most people stayed til the end.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:19 pm
by Proposition Joe
That 5th goal 🤣



And it's all part and parcel of supporting a team that plays in a League where matches aren't supposed to have pre-arranged outcomes. I don't recall writing to Hearn and asking him to refund my train fare and match ticket.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:35 pm
by JimbO
got no qualms with people booing after a game. anyone who boos during is a moron.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:19 pm
by slacker
For a few seasons when I sat with Dunnem in the North Stand, if Orient were putting in a stinker we’d have to find our enjoyment spotting other fans having a meltdown and losing the plot. Naturally, we’d peer over to the West Stand if see if things were going OFF & what antics the little drummer boy was up to for peak chuckles. Happy days.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:32 pm
by PoundhillO
JimbO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:35 pm got no qualms with people booing after a game. anyone who boos during is a moron.
You pays your money , you have the absolute right to cheer or boo at anytime during the game can’t see any problem at all.
Why should a team play rubbish and expect no booing from the supporters who attend and help pay their wages.
It’s called freedom of expression.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:56 pm
by elO
Because the booing becomes a self fulfilling prophecy, with players playing worse because they are being booed.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:04 pm
by Proposition Joe
Prove it.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:01 pm
by elO
If we limited football discussion to what can be “proved” this board would be blank, but here’s an interesting article from a while back that argue that point (among others)

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... enal-xhaka

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:44 pm
by Chelmsford Swimmer
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:32 pm
JimbO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:35 pm got no qualms with people booing after a game. anyone who boos during is a moron.
You pays your money , you have the absolute right to cheer or boo at anytime during the game can’t see any problem at all.
Why should a team play rubbish and expect no booing from the supporters who attend and help pay their wages.
It’s called freedom of expression.
Look up the definition of supporter in the dictionary. Anybody has the right to boo, but not to call themselves a supporter at the same time, when they are doing the opposite.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:18 am
by ChorizO
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:44 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:32 pm
JimbO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:35 pm got no qualms with people booing after a game. anyone who boos during is a moron.
You pays your money , you have the absolute right to cheer or boo at anytime during the game can’t see any problem at all.
Why should a team play rubbish and expect no booing from the supporters who attend and help pay their wages.
It’s called freedom of expression.
Look up the definition of supporter in the dictionary. Anybody has the right to boo, but not to call themselves a supporter at the same time, when they are doing the opposite.
I think you are splitting hairs here. The question is, should fans / supporters / customers have the right to boo what is in front of them if they don’t like it - the answer is a clear ‘Yes’.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:37 am
by PoundhillO
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:44 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:32 pm
JimbO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:35 pm got no qualms with people booing after a game. anyone who boos during is a moron.
You pays your money , you have the absolute right to cheer or boo at anytime during the game can’t see any problem at all.
Why should a team play rubbish and expect no booing from the supporters who attend and help pay their wages.
It’s called freedom of expression.
Look up the definition of supporter in the dictionary. Anybody has the right to boo, but not to call themselves a supporter at the same time, when they are doing the opposite.
A supporter is someone that pays to watch their team as I have done for over 60 years, as a supporter who pays to see my team I have the right to cheer or boo my team at anytime during the game to express my satisfaction or dissatisfaction with how they are playing.Nobody will ever change my mind on that.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:42 am
by elO
you have the right to boo but the question for me is whether that's useful. And i don't think it is. I think it makes it worse. As per the article I shared above.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:53 am
by Dunners
slacker wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:19 pm For a few seasons when I sat with Dunnem in the North Stand, if Orient were putting in a stinker we’d have to find our enjoyment spotting other fans having a meltdown and losing the plot. Naturally, we’d peer over to the West Stand if see if things were going OFF & what antics the little drummer boy was up to for peak chuckles. Happy days.
Ah yes. In the FA Cup replay against Arsenal, I was sat with Conkles and A-Stud at the Emirates where we got a close-up of a full-blown meltdown aimed at fellow orient fans for failing to display sufficient passion. I think he genuinely believed that this was a key factor behind Arsenal slotting home their fifth goal against us.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:02 am
by OyinbO
Dunners wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:53 am
slacker wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:19 pm For a few seasons when I sat with Dunnem in the North Stand, if Orient were putting in a stinker we’d have to find our enjoyment spotting other fans having a meltdown and losing the plot. Naturally, we’d peer over to the West Stand if see if things were going OFF & what antics the little drummer boy was up to for peak chuckles. Happy days.
Ah yes. In the FA Cup replay against Arsenal, I was sat with Conkles and A-Stud at the Emirates where we got a close-up of a full-blown meltdown aimed at fellow orient fans for failing to display sufficient passion. I think he genuinely believed that this was a key factor behind Arsenal slotting home their fifth goal against us.
A very dispiriting evening all round*, and the only time I ever left an Orient match early. Although I didn't boo anyone.

*the sterility of the ground, being lost in a sea of "once every couple of seasons" punters, and various branches of the EDL coming together for an evening out on the concourse at HT

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:11 am
by Dunners
OyinbO wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:02 am
Dunners wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:53 am
slacker wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 6:19 pm For a few seasons when I sat with Dunnem in the North Stand, if Orient were putting in a stinker we’d have to find our enjoyment spotting other fans having a meltdown and losing the plot. Naturally, we’d peer over to the West Stand if see if things were going OFF & what antics the little drummer boy was up to for peak chuckles. Happy days.
Ah yes. In the FA Cup replay against Arsenal, I was sat with Conkles and A-Stud at the Emirates where we got a close-up of a full-blown meltdown aimed at fellow orient fans for failing to display sufficient passion. I think he genuinely believed that this was a key factor behind Arsenal slotting home their fifth goal against us.
A very dispiriting evening all round*, and the only time I ever left an Orient match early. Although I didn't boo anyone.

*the sterility of the ground, being lost in a sea of "once every couple of seasons" punters, and various branches of the EDL coming together for an evening out on the concourse at HT
I was present, but not involved.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:23 am
by Chief crazy horse
Hoover Attack wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:04 am I think it’s a reflection of our league position, nothing more.
So you don't seem to oppose it.
Booing is like moaning....

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:35 am
by Chelmsford Swimmer
PoundhillO wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:37 am
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:44 pm
PoundhillO wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:32 pm

You pays your money , you have the absolute right to cheer or boo at anytime during the game can’t see any problem at all.
Why should a team play rubbish and expect no booing from the supporters who attend and help pay their wages.
It’s called freedom of expression.
Look up the definition of supporter in the dictionary. Anybody has the right to boo, but not to call themselves a supporter at the same time, when they are doing the opposite.
A supporter is someone that pays to watch their team as I have done for over 60 years, as a supporter who pays to see my team I have the right to cheer or boo my team at anytime during the game to express my satisfaction or dissatisfaction with how they are playing.Nobody will ever change my mind on that.
Every right to boo, not disputing that, but don't think you are a supporter.

Definition:

Supporter

noun
1. a person who approves of and encourages

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:01 pm
by PoundhillO
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:35 am
PoundhillO wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:37 am
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:44 pm

Look up the definition of supporter in the dictionary. Anybody has the right to boo, but not to call themselves a supporter at the same time, when they are doing the opposite.
A supporter is someone that pays to watch their team as I have done for over 60 years, as a supporter who pays to see my team I have the right to cheer or boo my team at anytime during the game to express my satisfaction or dissatisfaction with how they are playing.Nobody will ever change my mind on that.
Every right to boo, not disputing that, but don't think you are a supporter.

Definition:

Supporter

noun
1. a person who approves of and encourages
Of course I approve of them or I wouldn’t be paying to see them for over 60 years. Of course I encourage , what supporter wouldn't, so I fall within that definition.However I still can express my discontent by booing if despite my approval of my team and my encouragement the team then play poorly.

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:22 am
by Chief crazy horse
Hoover Attack wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:04 am I think it’s a reflection of our league position, nothing more.
So you don't appear to be opposing it.
Booing is like moaning...

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:35 am
by JimbO
PoundhillO wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:01 pm
Chelmsford Swimmer wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:35 am
PoundhillO wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:37 am

A supporter is someone that pays to watch their team as I have done for over 60 years, as a supporter who pays to see my team I have the right to cheer or boo my team at anytime during the game to express my satisfaction or dissatisfaction with how they are playing.Nobody will ever change my mind on that.
Every right to boo, not disputing that, but don't think you are a supporter.

Definition:

Supporter

noun
1. a person who approves of and encourages
Of course I approve of them or I wouldn’t be paying to see them for over 60 years. Of course I encourage , what supporter wouldn't, so I fall within that definition.However I still can express my discontent by booing if despite my approval of my team and my encouragement the team then play poorly.
shakes head

Re: Fans booing their own players

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:32 pm
by Max B Gold
On the subject of booing it was a very pleasurable experience to join in with the Sevco fans booing their team off at HT at the LC semi a few weeks back.

However, having being booed by the whole stadium they came back to beat us 2-1. There's a lesson there for all of us. I think.