Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:13 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:35 pm

WGC O wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:01 pm How many times does the way in which the club recruits have to be explained. It's a collective responsibility - not an individual one.

"Martin does the signings" was a line directly said by the manager at one point, if the DoF isn't responsible for this side of things what exactly is he employed for?

Funny that the managers get sacked when they're handed sub-standard players in the window (refer to Jackett) but the DoF role is never questioned. Even the Fletcher debacle no questions asked. It seems an untouchable post for some reason.

I think you're misinterpreting a comment there, if it was even ever said.

Your opinion seems to be based on the idea that Ling decides which players are signed and the manager doesnt get a say. This is of course contrary to what the club have said about the recruitment process.

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:19 pm

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:13 pm

gshaw wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:35 pm

"Martin does the signings" was a line directly said by the manager at one point, if the DoF isn't responsible for this side of things what exactly is he employed for?

Funny that the managers get sacked when they're handed sub-standard players in the window (refer to Jackett) but the DoF role is never questioned. Even the Fletcher debacle no questions asked. It seems an untouchable post for some reason.

I think you're misinterpreting a comment there, if it was even ever said.

Your opinion seems to be based on the idea that Ling decides which players are signed and the manager doesnt get a say. This is of course contrary to what the club have said about the recruitment process.

The club are very particular with their words, what it appears to come down to is this

Manager says he was players in positions X, Y and Z and has options in mind
The recruitment team provide him a list of options
Manager has to pick from those and even then might not then get the player he chose (see January)

So if a manager was options A, B or C but gets presented with E, F and J due to being slow in the market (again refer to January window) who does that fall on?

Also forgotten about within these discussions but very relevant, whose idea was it to bring in the set piece coach that destabilised the team last season, hint it wasn't the manager.