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Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:16 am
by Loyal_Supporter
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:33 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:19 pm
Story of O wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:02 pm
How much do you expect him to spend out of his own pocket?
Yes, that's fair enough and why we need some new investment . Obviously that's easier said than done.
If he can't afford it, he needs to sell up
At least he is actively looking for that investment.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:19 am
by Loyal_Supporter
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:48 pm
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:19 pm
Story of O wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:02 pm
How much do you expect him to spend out of his own pocket?
Enough to find someone who can make more money for our budget, Disney Netflix, anyone similar.
Wrexham Budget doesn't come just from Reynolds & the other one
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... y-31767633
£7-10 million according to this.
Nigel makes an unbought show with other clubs instead of selling up to one of the streaming mobs.
It's not Rocket Science, the Yanks are primed for a Wrexscam opponent.
Totally agree, its been obvious by our lack of players bought and poor loans that he was never going to be able to take the club any further.That being the case he should have been looking for massive new investors as soon as we got promoted back into League 1.
The home crowds will drop very soon and it will make it even harder to get the investment needed.Nigels failure to go for massive new investment in my opinion was when we were riding high after promotion.
You dont need to buy players to get good players. Over the 22 years I have watched us there have been many fantastic players, all signed on free transfers.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:23 am
by Bandy Legs
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:14 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:10 am
Nigel has done great to put us where we are. He knows he can't take us further on his own as he has stated since the beginning, It's time for new Money, hoping to find a Rich Sugar Daddy is difficult.
Knowing the world is loving Welcome to Wrexscam, it makes sense to explore investment from a global corporation like Netflix Disney N.E. Other broadcasting platform with massive reach.
Giving you strength for what exactly?
Burying your head in the sand to drop back into League 2 & then be 1 bad season away from the National League again?
NT has said repeatedly his main objective is for LOFC to be here in 100 years time, sell up to a global corporation & maybe we get that chance.
Its time to think outside the box.
I would suggest a few people on this board need to give the guy a bit more respect. That’s all I am saying. He has done brilliantly for this club. Some people have very short memories.
He's got Respect, what he hasn't got is an Infinite Bank Balance & the ability to fund a bigger Capacity or a Better way to raise funds that enable us to invest in our squad to a level that keeps us away from relegation.
I'd hate to see the great work he's done get undone by people believing respect keeps us in League 1
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:25 am
by Bandy Legs
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:16 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:33 pm
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:19 pm
Yes, that's fair enough and why we need some new investment . Obviously that's easier said than done.
If he can't afford it, he needs to sell up
At least he is actively looking for that investment.
I'm just offering a different view on raising money for the club, Everyone sees how successful the Welsh mob are doing, At least that shows something different can work
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
by Loyal_Supporter
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:14 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:10 am
Nigel has done great to put us where we are. He knows he can't take us further on his own as he has stated since the beginning, It's time for new Money, hoping to find a Rich Sugar Daddy is difficult.
Knowing the world is loving Welcome to Wrexscam, it makes sense to explore investment from a global corporation like Netflix Disney N.E. Other broadcasting platform with massive reach.
Giving you strength for what exactly?
Burying your head in the sand to drop back into League 2 & then be 1 bad season away from the National League again?
NT has said repeatedly his main objective is for LOFC to be here in 100 years time, sell up to a global corporation & maybe we get that chance.
Its time to think outside the box.
I would suggest a few people on this board need to give the guy a bit more respect. That’s all I am saying. He has done brilliantly for this club. Some people have very short memories.
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:36 am
by Loyal_Supporter
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:25 am
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:16 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:33 pm
If he can't afford it, he needs to sell up
At least he is actively looking for that investment.
I'm just offering a different view on raising money for the club, Everyone sees how successful the Welsh mob are doing, At least that shows something different can work
I get what you mean but you need the RIGHT owner. Get it wrong and we go the way of the Italian mob again. He set up a TV show if you recall? And put millions of pounds in and it went tits up QUICKLY....
Wrexham were VERY lucky in getting two famous actors as their owners but who actually care about the club. That's almost an impossibility.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:48 am
by Story of O
Wrexham were lucky. If it was easy to get Hollywood owners every club would do it
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:49 am
by Bandy Legs
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:36 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:25 am
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:16 am
At least he is actively looking for that investment.
I'm just offering a different view on raising money for the club, Everyone sees how successful the Welsh mob are doing, At least that shows something different can work
I get what you mean but you need the RIGHT owner. Get it wrong and we go the way of the Italian mob again. He set up a TV show if you recall? And put millions of pounds in and it went tits up QUICKLY....
Wrexham were VERY lucky in getting two famous actors as their owners but who actually care about the club. That's almost an impossibility.
So seek investment from Netflix Disney Amazon Prime.
Band of Brothers was a massive TV series, so was the Beautiful game, which was all about the evolution of footballs southern based power being challenged by the North. The southern powers like Wanderers fc the greatest Winners of the F.A CUP for decades
Wanderers were former players from Forest School.
The founder of the F.A CUP Charles Alcock as the man who started the F.A cup lived in Chingford after leaving his Sunderland birthplace.
Clapton Orient McFadden Jonas & Scott all died in WW2.
Wrexham had a mining accident, which of the 2 towns has more History ripe for a TV show?
Band of Brothers meets The Beautiful game or A Welsh Town that had a tragic mining accident?
Clapton Orient were in the top 4 London football clubs in 1915 along with Arsenal Tottenham & Fulham, all that given up by signing up for King & Country. Even the future King came to see us play.
Sell our History like its never been sold before.
The Yanks love a war film an underdog sports story & Royal story, Christ the script is already there for a spin off for a Netflix & Opponent to Welcome to Wrexham
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:50 am
by Bandy Legs
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:14 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:10 am
Nigel has done great to put us where we are. He knows he can't take us further on his own as he has stated since the beginning, It's time for new Money, hoping to find a Rich Sugar Daddy is difficult.
Knowing the world is loving Welcome to Wrexscam, it makes sense to explore investment from a global corporation like Netflix Disney N.E. Other broadcasting platform with massive reach.
Giving you strength for what exactly?
Burying your head in the sand to drop back into League 2 & then be 1 bad season away from the National League again?
NT has said repeatedly his main objective is for LOFC to be here in 100 years time, sell up to a global corporation & maybe we get that chance.
Its time to think outside the box.
I would suggest a few people on this board need to give the guy a bit more respect. That’s all I am saying. He has done brilliantly for this club. Some people have very short memories.
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
55 years of support, started in 1969 so don't think those moaning haven't seen the bad times
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:08 am
by Bandy Legs
Story of O wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:48 am
Wrexham were lucky. If it was easy to get Hollywood owners every club would do it
Kelce & Twain love London, add Netflix to them & show them Orients History Waltham Forests connection to the
F.A cup, show them the team that went up with Liverpool who won how many league titles & European trophies after 1962?
Luck doesn't happen once, you can do stuff to create luck by selling the story of LOFC Waltham Forest to a group that have so much wealth they might just bite
Think possibilities
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:41 am
by WGC O
Lots of entitled moaners around. If I was on the board now I'd say f*** up we'll sell up to the first person who comes along. The team is having a bad run - they will turn it round. Thank god social media wasn't around in the mid 80s when it really was s**t. Get a grip everyone - it's the ups and downs of a football season.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:50 am
by gshaw
WGC O wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:41 am
Lots of entitled moaners around. If I was on the board now I'd say f*** up we'll sell up to the first person who comes along. The team is having a bad run - they will turn it round. Thank god social media wasn't around in the mid 80s when it really was s**t. Get a grip everyone - it's the ups and downs of a football season.
In cold harsh reality that's what they should've done having got back to L1, knowing the finances are as they are much bigger investment needed to kick on. The mistake if anything was holding on too long and now getting left behind within L1 finance wise and the risk of undoing all the good work it took to get to this position.
Even last season after a rocky start we competed but squad looks a lot weaker this time around, even staying in L1 is looking a tough ask.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:08 pm
by Bandy Legs
WGC O wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:41 am
Lots of entitled moaners around. If I was on the board now I'd say f*** up we'll sell up to the first person who comes along. The team is having a bad run - they will turn it round. Thank god social media wasn't around in the mid 80s when it really was s**t. Get a grip everyone - it's the ups and downs of a football season.
Why & when did Orientear start?
Back in the 80s when we were rubbish & the club were floundering, you think moaning about football has only happened since social media was around?
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:35 am
by Kevash
Let's be honest this is a typical Orient season so far.
50years a fan,this is the norm.
Expectations may now be higher and youngsters have probably seen nearly as many promotions as us old uns,but
We go with what we've got.
Hopefully we will have enough to stay up.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:22 am
by RedDwarf 1881
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:50 am
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:14 am
I would suggest a few people on this board need to give the guy a bit more respect. That’s all I am saying. He has done brilliantly for this club. Some people have very short memories.
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
55 years of support, started in 1969 so don't think those moaning haven't seen the bad times
Exactly . I've been supporting the club since 1974. In all that time I've seen some spells of right diabolical football . It really did belong on Hackney Marshes . Some of those teams makes today's team look like Brazil in comparison.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:43 am
by Bandy Legs
RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:22 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:50 am
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
55 years of support, started in 1969 so don't think those moaning haven't seen the bad times
Exactly . I've been supporting the club since 1974. In all that time I've seen some spells of right diabolical football . It really did belong on Hackney Marshes . Some of those teams makes today's team look like Brazil in comparison.
We've never looked like Brazil
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:58 am
by Mistadobalina
If you're complaining that our owners couldn't wish up much wealthier investors at the drop of a hat, you have the entitlement of a child and the memory of a goldfish. The last time we had a magical mega rich owner come with zero due diligence, it nearly killed the club. Current lot aren't gonna risk chucking away 6 years of hard work and money by selling up to a cowboy just because some fans think we should be able to lose £6m a season instead of £3m.
There's plenty of legitimate criticism to be made of our recruitment, which we've clearly fluffed in some key positions, and the management, which isn't getting it right at the moment.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:10 pm
by Bandy Legs
Mistadobalina wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 11:58 am
If you're complaining that our owners couldn't wish up much wealthier investors at the drop of a hat, you have the entitlement of a child and the memory of a goldfish. The last time we had a magical mega rich owner come with zero due diligence, it nearly killed the club. Current lot aren't gonna risk chucking away 6 years of hard work and money by selling up to a cowboy just because some fans think we should be able to lose £6m a season instead of £3m.
There's plenty of legitimate criticism to be made of our recruitment, which we've clearly fluffed in some key positions, and the management, which isn't getting it right at the moment.
We all know that already, That's why selling to a global corporation in the entertainment business is being suggested here. Cuts out dodgy Italians & as a global corporate its finances will be open to scrutiny thus compliance with due diligence.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:17 pm
by PoundhillO
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:14 am
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:10 am
Nigel has done great to put us where we are. He knows he can't take us further on his own as he has stated since the beginning, It's time for new Money, hoping to find a Rich Sugar Daddy is difficult.
Knowing the world is loving Welcome to Wrexscam, it makes sense to explore investment from a global corporation like Netflix Disney N.E. Other broadcasting platform with massive reach.
Giving you strength for what exactly?
Burying your head in the sand to drop back into League 2 & then be 1 bad season away from the National League again?
NT has said repeatedly his main objective is for LOFC to be here in 100 years time, sell up to a global corporation & maybe we get that chance.
Its time to think outside the box.
I would suggest a few people on this board need to give the guy a bit more respect. That’s all I am saying. He has done brilliantly for this club. Some people have very short memories.
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
66 years of support many of those as a season ticket holder , seen many years of struggle so not just the younger ones.
I am grateful for Nigel and co for saving the club but any great business man should have a forward thinking plan .
Once we got promoted it would have been patently obvious that financially he could take us no further, at that point of sealing promotion in my view Nigel should have immediately sought the massive new investors needed to take us further.In fact as a good business man knowing that we were likely to be promoted he should have made tentative enquiries before we had sufficient points needed.
In my opinion we are now in a position that is far from the optimal time to attract the massive investors needed, that boat sailed when we got promoted back into League 1.
In my opinion Nigel has shot himself and the club in the foot with in adequate forward financial planning.
I just hope that by some miracle we get the massive investors needed before we stagnate in League 1 or at worst get relegated.I believe home attendances failing to drop and the clubs financial income will drop as a result of that.
Up the O’s.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:34 pm
by Loyal_Supporter
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:50 am
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:14 am
I would suggest a few people on this board need to give the guy a bit more respect. That’s all I am saying. He has done brilliantly for this club. Some people have very short memories.
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
55 years of support, started in 1969 so don't think those moaning haven't seen the bad times
Didn't say it was all youngsters did I?
Re: Nigel
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:39 pm
by Bandy Legs
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 3:34 pm
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:50 am
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
55 years of support, started in 1969 so don't think those moaning haven't seen the bad times
Didn't say it was all youngsters did I?
No, but I haven't attacked Nigel either, I've just offered a view on who some Prime investors could be without needing to sell to some dodgy bloke who has a few quid.
Global Corporate investment on Entertainment
TV/Social Media
It's the Future for small penniless lower league clubs
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:55 pm
by Bandy Legs
I'm hoping Nigel has a meeting set up soon, investment needs to be sorted by Christmas so we can spend a few quid in January. Pick up the phone & Contact List Nigel.
Having a Billionaire owner has worked wonders for Wycombe Wanderers
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:02 pm
by cockhat
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:55 pm
I'm hoping Nigel has a meeting set up soon, investment needs to be sorted by Christmas so we can spend a few quid in January. Pick up the phone & Contact List Nigel.
Having a Billionaire owner has worked wonders for Wycombe Wanderers
The plus side is that Wickham own their ground whereas we own nothing. Why would a Billionaire want to invest in nothing other than a name?
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:11 pm
by Scuba Diver
PoundhillO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:17 pm
Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:29 am
DrWindy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:14 am
I would suggest a few people on this board need to give the guy a bit more respect. That’s all I am saying. He has done brilliantly for this club. Some people have very short memories.
Agreed. Most of the people blaming Nigel for not putting enough money in are the younger ones who jumped on the O's band wagon when we started pushing back through the leagues.
Now we are struggling a bit this is how they react...slagging off owners who saved us from oblivion and have been very open from the start. The 'glory hunters' (for lack of a better term) just don't get it and think money grows on trees.
Imagine what they would have been like if they were here during the real hard times of the Barry Hearn era! Saying that he also kept us going to be fair although he did nearly put us out of business!
66 years of support many of those as a season ticket holder , seen many years of struggle so not just the younger ones.
I am grateful for Nigel and co for saving the club but any great business man should have a forward thinking plan .
Once we got promoted it would have been patently obvious that financially he could take us no further, at that point of sealing promotion in my view Nigel should have immediately sought the massive new investors needed to take us further.In fact as a good business man knowing that we were likely to be promoted he should have made tentative enquiries before we had sufficient points needed.
In my opinion we are now in a position that is far from the optimal time to attract the massive investors needed, that boat sailed when we got promoted back into League 1.
In my opinion Nigel has shot himself and the club in the foot with in adequate forward financial planning.
I just hope that by some miracle we get the massive investors needed before we stagnate in League 1 or at worst get relegated.I believe home attendances failing to drop and the clubs financial income will drop as a result of that.
Up the O’s.
Are you including this season in your “66 years of support”, when you’ve disclosed you haven’t bought a season ticket or attended a match? Or is that not included ?
You bleat about “investment”. If so called supporters put as much effort into supporting the club as they do displaying their infant like sense of entitlement on the internet, we’d need to rely less on outside “investment”
You (and others) are an embarrassment to yourselves.
Re: Nigel
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:13 pm
by gshaw
cockhat wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:02 pm
Bandy Legs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:55 pm
I'm hoping Nigel has a meeting set up soon, investment needs to be sorted by Christmas so we can spend a few quid in January. Pick up the phone & Contact List Nigel.
Having a Billionaire owner has worked wonders for Wycombe Wanderers
The plus side is that Wickham own their ground whereas we own nothing. Why would a Billionaire want to invest in nothing other than a name?
The other thing Mr Travis will need to drop is the idea he can sell a large chunk of the club and still remain in charge. If you want the extra finance then be prepared to let go of the controls.
There's no doubt he did a fine job of executing the 6 year plan but it all looks a bit confused having got to the promised land of League 1. Fresh cash and fresh ideas required to move things along now.