Independent Leyton Orient Forum

Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:11 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:56 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:54 pm Back at his level. Hope he does well and the move is made long term.

Honestly can’t believe some on here were seriously suggesting that the guy should start league 1 games.

That’s fair enough but he didn’t let anybody down . I agree he’s not League One standard however he did do well away at Blackpool and Shrewsbury last season . I wish him good luck for the future

Agree with you for the most part but I reckon he could do a job in League 2.

BoniO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:04 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:50 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:23 pm As everyone knows, no one seriously claimed Howes was an L1 standard keeper or the answer to our problems, they were just calling for Hemming to be dropped and he was the only other keeper at the club at that stage. Bit sad that some people twist that to mean something else that miraculously backs up whatever point they were trying to make, repeatedly, ad nauseum.

So you speak for others on this board now, do you?

Or are you seriously trying to suggest that people demanding that a bloke start in league 1 fixtures didn’t think that he was good enough to play in league 1? Bizarre.

Mate, when you have Rich Tea "supporting" your point of view you really need to take a moment and consider..........

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:58 pm

Loyal_Supporter wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:11 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:56 pm

That’s fair enough but he didn’t let anybody down . I agree he’s not League One standard however he did do well away at Blackpool and Shrewsbury last season . I wish him good luck for the future

Agree with you for the most part but I reckon he could do a job in League 2.

If the job you’re thinking of is Goalkeeper, you’re wrong.
The 70+ goals conceded in his 1 season in the National League kind of prove that.

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:58 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:50 pm

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:23 pm As everyone knows, no one seriously claimed Howes was an L1 standard keeper or the answer to our problems, they were just calling for Hemming to be dropped and he was the only other keeper at the club at that stage. Bit sad that some people twist that to mean something else that miraculously backs up whatever point they were trying to make, repeatedly, ad nauseum.

So you speak for others on this board now, do you?

Or are you seriously trying to suggest that people demanding that a bloke start in league 1 fixtures didn’t think that he was good enough to play in league 1? Bizarre.

Performative ignorance such as this on a League One message board is the bizarre thing. You do you.

Adz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:14 am Not that Howes is up to playing in the first team, but this loan means that we cannot have Kelman, Currie, Perkins, and Donley in a matchday squad now, so it reduces our options further.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:50 am

Adz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:14 am Not that Howes is up to playing in the first team, but this loan means that we cannot have Kelman, Currie, Perkins, and Donley in a matchday squad now, so it reduces our options further.

We don’t have to have both loanee keepers in the match day squad, but throw one of our kid keepers on the bench.

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:36 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:58 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:50 pm

So you speak for others on this board now, do you?

Or are you seriously trying to suggest that people demanding that a bloke start in league 1 fixtures didn’t think that he was good enough to play in league 1? Bizarre.

Performative ignorance such as this on a League One message board is the bizarre thing. You do you.

So just to confirm, you are indeed claiming that people were demanding that a guy they didn’t think was good enough to be in league 1 should be put starting line up of a league 1 side.

I think cornering yourself with nonsensical claims like the above rather than just admitting that someone who you don’t like happened to be correct on this occasion is very bizarre indeed. It really is strange that people have such fragile egos that they’d rather stoop to petty digs than just admit that someone else was right.

Adz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:01 am

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:50 am

Adz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:14 am Not that Howes is up to playing in the first team, but this loan means that we cannot have Kelman, Currie, Perkins, and Donley in a matchday squad now, so it reduces our options further.

We don’t have to have both loanee keepers in the match day squad, but throw one of our kid keepers on the bench.

Aren't they both on loan too?

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:31 am

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:36 am

Proposition Joe wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:58 pm

Performative ignorance such as this on a League One message board is the bizarre thing. You do you.

So just to confirm, you are indeed claiming that people were demanding that a guy they didn’t think was good enough to be in league 1 should be put starting line up of a league 1 side.

I think cornering yourself with nonsensical claims like the above rather than just admitting that someone who you don’t like happened to be correct on this occasion is very bizarre indeed. It really is strange that people have such fragile egos that they’d rather stoop to petty digs than just admit that someone else was right.

To whom are you performing? Or is it just for your own amusement? I just don't get it.

CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:52 am Rev, once again, for absolute clarity, the issue is not and never was that you don’t think Howes was a very good keeper.
It’s that you spent months acting as if you uniquely had this insight, and were disappointed by anyone who didn’t join in and give the guy dog’s abuse for not reaching the standard you believe he should.
Nobody disagreed with the opinion “Howes isn’t good enough” - we all just disagreed that A: you had had a brilliant insight nobody else had seen, and B: the best way to react to that insight was to post to such an extent about him that one might think he’d f***ed your girlfriend.

And so, now he’s off, that’d be a good time for you to quietly think “phew” rather than “remind” everyone that you never liked him

gshaw wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:03 pm Good luck to the guy, seemed a decent character just well out of his depth at this level.

Is it true what I saw posted on socials that we actually paid a fee for him initially?

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:48 pm

RedDwarf 1881 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:56 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 2:54 pm Back at his level. Hope he does well and the move is made long term.

Honestly can’t believe some on here were seriously suggesting that the guy should start league 1 games.

That’s fair enough but he didn’t let anybody down . I agree he’s not League One standard however he did do well away at Blackpool and Shrewsbury last season . I wish him good luck for the future

I was at both games and refute the accusation that he did well at either.

But of course, I wish him well

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:31 pm Ok, I respect your opinion but he really didn't. We've done this before but he had bugger all to do because of the defensive performance in front of him (TJ in particular was immense at CB that day).

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:01 am

CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:52 am Rev, once again, for absolute clarity, the issue is not and never was that you don’t think Howes was a very good keeper.
It’s that you spent months acting as if you uniquely had this insight, and were disappointed by anyone who didn’t join in and give the guy dog’s abuse for not reaching the standard you believe he should.
Nobody disagreed with the opinion “Howes isn’t good enough” - we all just disagreed that A: you had had a brilliant insight nobody else had seen, and B: the best way to react to that insight was to post to such an extent about him that one might think he’d f***ed your girlfriend.

And so, now he’s off, that’d be a good time for you to quietly think “phew” rather than “remind” everyone that you never liked him

The guy who recently did a frame by frame analysis, using Google Earth as a secondary source, to breakdown every millisecond of a single mistake the guy made is claiming that I went a bit far in my criticism of him.

But let me guess, it’s “different” when you do it….

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:01 pm I dont believe people were claiming Howes should play because he was League One quality, it was more that he 'cant be any worse than Hemming'.

CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:36 pm

The Reverend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:01 am

CEB2ElectricBoogaloo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:52 am Rev, once again, for absolute clarity, the issue is not and never was that you don’t think Howes was a very good keeper.
It’s that you spent months acting as if you uniquely had this insight, and were disappointed by anyone who didn’t join in and give the guy dog’s abuse for not reaching the standard you believe he should.
Nobody disagreed with the opinion “Howes isn’t good enough” - we all just disagreed that A: you had had a brilliant insight nobody else had seen, and B: the best way to react to that insight was to post to such an extent about him that one might think he’d f***ed your girlfriend.

And so, now he’s off, that’d be a good time for you to quietly think “phew” rather than “remind” everyone that you never liked him

The guy who recently did a frame by frame analysis, using Google Earth as a secondary source, to breakdown every millisecond of a single mistake the guy made is claiming that I went a bit far in my criticism of him.

But let me guess, it’s “different” when you do it….

I analysed the goal, I didn’t crucify the man.